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 Adam
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No risk - Utah retaining $800K and we pay only future considerations.
We have too many goalies now though - will be interesting to see the next move.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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Skookum Jim
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| Adam wrote on Wed, 01 October 2025 08:28 |
No risk - Utah retaining $800K and we pay only future considerations.
We have too many goalies now though - will be interesting to see the next move.
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I was wondering about that.. thought Ingram would get picked up by someone, even Oilers .. but had no cap room.. then figured the smart thing to alleviate that issue would be a trade where there is retention by Utah.. 800K is 41% retained..
Note: Apparently Ingram didn't even attend a camp so far this year.. so he's definitely heading to Bako for a while..
Utah doing Ingram a solid.. a waive, trade, and retention made him able to be picked up by other teams and give him a chance to re-start his career ..
As Adam noted having been already waived through the league Oilers can keep him in Bako..
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Kr55
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Well played by Bowman getting the retention instead of the full cap on waivers. Hope Ingram is ready for a bounce back season. Skookum Jim Pointed out in the other thread that Ingram’s mother passing last season seemed to be why he had an off year after a couple really solid season behind a terrible Arizona lineup.
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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Adam
Messages: 7546
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 01 October 2025 09:45 |
Well played by Bowman getting the retention instead of the full cap on waivers. Hope Ingram is ready for a bounce back season. Skookum Jim Pointed out in the other thread that Ingram’s mother passing last season seemed to be why he had an off year after a couple really solid season behind a terrible Arizona lineup.
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This is a really good trade - we got enough salary retention that the contract can be buried completely. It's for future considerations - so essentially nothing. He's already passed through waivers, so we can keep him in the AHL until we want to bring him up.
Only issue is that we have too many goalies now. Jonsson is still in camp and he's the best goalie prospect we've had in a while. He will need a place to play regularly. Tomkins just got demoted, but he won the Harry "Hap" Holmes Memorial Award for fewest goals against in the AHL last year. Both of those guys will need the net for some of the time, so at some point someone has to go.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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inverno76
Messages: 2483
Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
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| Adam wrote on Wed, 01 October 2025 10:36 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 01 October 2025 09:45 |
Well played by Bowman getting the retention instead of the full cap on waivers. Hope Ingram is ready for a bounce back season. Skookum Jim Pointed out in the other thread that Ingram’s mother passing last season seemed to be why he had an off year after a couple really solid season behind a terrible Arizona lineup.
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This is a really good trade - we got enough salary retention that the contract can be buried completely. It's for future considerations - so essentially nothing. He's already passed through waivers, so we can keep him in the AHL until we want to bring him up.
Only issue is that we have too many goalies now. Jonsson is still in camp and he's the best goalie prospect we've had in a while. He will need a place to play regularly. Tomkins just got demoted, but he won the Harry "Hap" Holmes Memorial Award for fewest goals against in the AHL last year. Both of those guys will need the net for some of the time, so at some point someone has to go.
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Easiest thing would be cut ties with one or two tenders. Europe is nice this time of year and we need to develop more options in the pipes.
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benv
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Edmonton
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| inverno76 wrote on Wed, 01 October 2025 11:00 |
| Adam wrote on Wed, 01 October 2025 10:36 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 01 October 2025 09:45 |
Well played by Bowman getting the retention instead of the full cap on waivers. Hope Ingram is ready for a bounce back season. Skookum Jim Pointed out in the other thread that Ingram’s mother passing last season seemed to be why he had an off year after a couple really solid season behind a terrible Arizona lineup.
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This is a really good trade - we got enough salary retention that the contract can be buried completely. It's for future considerations - so essentially nothing. He's already passed through waivers, so we can keep him in the AHL until we want to bring him up.
Only issue is that we have too many goalies now. Jonsson is still in camp and he's the best goalie prospect we've had in a while. He will need a place to play regularly. Tomkins just got demoted, but he won the Harry "Hap" Holmes Memorial Award for fewest goals against in the AHL last year. Both of those guys will need the net for some of the time, so at some point someone has to go.
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Easiest thing would be cut ties with one or two tenders. Europe is nice this time of year and we need to develop more options in the pipes.
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This could be really good even if it just lights a bit of a fire under Skinner and Pickard, knowing they've got a guy who's shown some ability at this level waiting in the wings if either of them messes up. Haven't really had that the last two years.
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Skookum Jim
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Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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Interesting tidbit.. apparently Ingram is from the same town in Saskie as Knoblauch.. a population of 372.. as per this poster on Staples..
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Edmonton Oilerlytics @EdmOilerlytics
Connor Ingram and Kris Knoblauch both grew up in Imperial Saskatchewan which only has a population of 372 for those that are wondering.
With that population it would have made it impossible for these 2 not to have known each other for a very long time.
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Skookum Jim
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He's brought his lunch pail.. lots of stops along the way..
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Kr55
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I don't mean this to be negative about Ingram, but just wanted to bring up his history a bit more.
We know he was fighting mental health last year around his mothers cancer and passing.
Years before though, he also had to go into the player assitance program because of OCD and anxiety.
Somehow we have a 3rd goalie in a few years with mental health issues. Maybe the 3rd time is a charm though :)
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Steve
Messages: 125
Registered: October 2006
Location: Ottawa
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 01 October 2025 12:38 |
I don't mean this to be negative about Ingram, but just wanted to bring up his history a bit more.
We know he was fighting mental health last year around his mothers cancer and passing.
Years before though, he also had to go into the player assitance program because of OCD and anxiety.
Somehow we have a 3rd goalie in a few years with mental health issues. Maybe the 3rd time is a charm though :)
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As someone who has had similar struggles, I think it's important to let Ingram write his own story. The mental side of the goalie position is hard enough for someone who doesn't have mental health challenges. For someone with severe anxiety it's even harder, and medication can only help so much. It's a chronic condition that requires a lot of management. The anxiety is at its worst when it results in cooccurring depression, which Ingram has been open about.
It's best to let him start slow and only progress when he feels ready for it. If either of Skinner or Pickard struggle early in the season, that doesn't mean Ingram should be called up right away. That might just set him back. It's best to think of it as a long term thing. Honestly I'm not sure Edmonton is the best team for him. I have some doubts that Oiler fans have the patience to help him along, though his being open about it might help.
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
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Adam
Messages: 7546
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Steve wrote on Wed, 01 October 2025 14:48 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 01 October 2025 12:38 |
I don't mean this to be negative about Ingram, but just wanted to bring up his history a bit more.
We know he was fighting mental health last year around his mothers cancer and passing.
Years before though, he also had to go into the player assitance program because of OCD and anxiety.
Somehow we have a 3rd goalie in a few years with mental health issues. Maybe the 3rd time is a charm though :)
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As someone who has had similar struggles, I think it's important to let Ingram write his own story. The mental side of the goalie position is hard enough for someone who doesn't have mental health challenges. For someone with severe anxiety it's even harder, and medication can only help so much. It's a chronic condition that requires a lot of management. The anxiety is at its worst when it results in cooccurring depression, which Ingram has been open about.
It's best to let him start slow and only progress when he feels ready for it. If either of Skinner or Pickard struggle early in the season, that doesn't mean Ingram should be called up right away. That might just set him back. It's best to think of it as a long term thing. Honestly I'm not sure Edmonton is the best team for him. I have some doubts that Oiler fans have the patience to help him along, though his being open about it might help.
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Serious question - does goaltending have more appeal to someone with OCD? We've seen lots of goalies that have tics and quirks that would be consistent with OCD. It's a challenging position and one that really relies on consistent routines.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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Steve
Messages: 125
Registered: October 2006
Location: Ottawa
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| Adam wrote on Wed, 01 October 2025 13:56 |
| Steve wrote on Wed, 01 October 2025 14:48 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 01 October 2025 12:38 |
I don't mean this to be negative about Ingram, but just wanted to bring up his history a bit more.
We know he was fighting mental health last year around his mothers cancer and passing.
Years before though, he also had to go into the player assitance program because of OCD and anxiety.
Somehow we have a 3rd goalie in a few years with mental health issues. Maybe the 3rd time is a charm though :)
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As someone who has had similar struggles, I think it's important to let Ingram write his own story. The mental side of the goalie position is hard enough for someone who doesn't have mental health challenges. For someone with severe anxiety it's even harder, and medication can only help so much. It's a chronic condition that requires a lot of management. The anxiety is at its worst when it results in cooccurring depression, which Ingram has been open about.
It's best to let him start slow and only progress when he feels ready for it. If either of Skinner or Pickard struggle early in the season, that doesn't mean Ingram should be called up right away. That might just set him back. It's best to think of it as a long term thing. Honestly I'm not sure Edmonton is the best team for him. I have some doubts that Oiler fans have the patience to help him along, though his being open about it might help.
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Serious question - does goaltending have more appeal to someone with OCD? We've seen lots of goalies that have tics and quirks that would be consistent with OCD. It's a challenging position and one that really relies on consistent routines.
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As I was writing the last post, I was asking myself the same question.
I am also a goalie, and have an anxiety disorder and functional neurological disorder that includes motor and vocal tics.
Is there something about the position that attracts neurotic people? Or does playing goalie make a person neurotic? Or maybe both! I don't really know, but it would make an interesting study.
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 5383
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
5 Cups
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 01 October 2025 12:38 |
I don't mean this to be negative about Ingram, but just wanted to bring up his history a bit more.
We know he was fighting mental health last year around his mothers cancer and passing.
Years before though, he also had to go into the player assitance program because of OCD and anxiety.
Somehow we have a 3rd goalie in a few years with mental health issues. Maybe the 3rd time is a charm though :)
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Yeah I guess he was in the NHL assistance program back with Nashville in 2021, and then most recently n March of this year (mother passing away) .. he seemed to play quite well when he got out of the program the 1st time.. at least we aren't paying him $5M x 5 .. and there is zero cap hit.. or need for a multi-year buyout!
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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