[Updated on: Tue, 02 September 2025 12:35]

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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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[Updated on: Tue, 02 September 2025 13:03]

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[Updated on: Tue, 02 September 2025 13:16]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

[Updated on: Tue, 02 September 2025 13:29]

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[Updated on: Thu, 04 September 2025 13:31]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

From article:
https://puckpedia.com/news/upcoming-LTIR-changes

Quote:

New Playoff Salary Accounting Rules For each playoff game, the total cap hit of the dressed players must be under the cap ceiling for that season. Playoff cap calculations follow these rules: Performance and Games Played bonuses are excluded from a player’s playoff cap hit. Player cap hits are not pro-rated (i.e. the player’s full-season cap hit is used, even if they were acquired or called up mid-season). Acquired players’ cap hits net of retention count fully (without pro-ration) against the playoff cap (e.g., if 25% salary is retained by the original team, 75% fully counts against the acquiring team’s playoff cap, even if they were acquired mid-season). Dead cap space (e.g. buried contracts, buyouts, cap recapture penalties, and retained salaries) that were incurred during the season counts toward the playoff cap. This means that if a player had a buried cap hit for part of the season, the accumulated cap hit charged during the season counts as a playoff cap hit regardless of if that player plays or is even still on the team. For example, Spencer Knight had a buried cap hit of $3.35M on the first day of the regular season for Florida in 24-25. This means that Florida would have a playoff cap hit of $17K for that, even though he was traded and no longer on the roster. For the team that retains cap hit, the retention is pro-rated based on the remaining regular-season days at the time of transaction (e.g. if a team retains 25% of a player’s salary in a transaction, the 25% charged to the retaining team is pro-rated. If that retention occurred halfway through the season, the retaining cap would have a playoff cap hit equal to 25%*50%= 12.5% of the full cap hit). Note that the team that receives the retained player does not have their cap hit pro-rated for the portion of the season the player was on their roster. Below shows the new playoff accounting rules applied to last playoff game in 2025, Game 6 of the 2025 Stanley Cup Final. The Salary Cap in 2024-25 was $88M, meaning that the Edmonton Oilers would have been $7,353,277 below the Playoff Cap in Game 6 had it been in effect, while the Florida Panthers would have been $5,038,282 above the Playoff Cap.

[Updated on: Tue, 02 September 2025 12:54]

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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 02 September 2025 12:48

From article: https://puckpedia.com/news/upcoming-LTIR-changes Quote: New Playoff Salary Accounting Rules For each playoff game, the total cap hit of the dressed players must be under the cap ceiling for that season. Playoff cap calculations follow these rules: Performance and Games Played bonuses are excluded from a player’s playoff cap hit. Player cap hits are not pro-rated (i.e. the player’s full-season cap hit is used, even if they were acquired or called up mid-season). Acquired players’ cap hits net of retention count fully (without pro-ration) against the playoff cap (e.g., if 25% salary is retained by the original team, 75% fully counts against the acquiring team’s playoff cap, even if they were acquired mid-season). Dead cap space (e.g. buried contracts, buyouts, cap recapture penalties, and retained salaries) that were incurred during the season counts toward the playoff cap. This means that if a player had a buried cap hit for part of the season, the accumulated cap hit charged during the season counts as a playoff cap hit regardless of if that player plays or is even still on the team. For example, Spencer Knight had a buried cap hit of $3.35M on the first day of the regular season for Florida in 24-25. This means that Florida would have a playoff cap hit of $17K for that, even though he was traded and no longer on the roster. For the team that retains cap hit, the retention is pro-rated based on the remaining regular-season days at the time of transaction (e.g. if a team retains 25% of a player’s salary in a transaction, the 25% charged to the retaining team is pro-rated. If that retention occurred halfway through the season, the retaining cap would have a playoff cap hit equal to 25%*50%= 12.5% of the full cap hit). Note that the team that receives the retained player does not have their cap hit pro-rated for the portion of the season the player was on their roster. Below shows the new playoff accounting rules applied to last playoff game in 2025, Game 6 of the 2025 Stanley Cup Final. The Salary Cap in 2024-25 was $88M, meaning that the Edmonton Oilers would have been $7,353,277 below the Playoff Cap in Game 6 had it been in effect, while the Florida Panthers would have been $5,038,282 above the Playoff Cap.

My head hurts trying to understand that. Teams need to be investing in quality capologists and accountants.

If I had to guess, this will really hamper the trade deadline, and making it harder for deals to get done. Oilers shouldn't be putting all their hopes and prayers on someone coming in at the end of the season to solve a problem.

It also seems to me that retention is going to be of huge importance, and we likely see more deals with it. Bottom feeders teams should be trying to stock-pile draft picks by providing some playoff cap reliefs for contenders.

[Updated on: Thu, 04 September 2025 02:57]

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[Updated on: Tue, 02 September 2025 13:05]

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Clean house or bust

oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 04 September 2025 08:26

smyth260 wrote on Thu, 04 September 2025 01:05 Rules are only as good as their punishment, what’s the penalty if a team decides to dress a team above the playoff cap? Anything besides forfeiting the game falls short. This is a complicated but necessary change. I am willing to bet that it will be up to the other team to catch them during the game. Then they would be forced to take a player out of the game and receive a delay of game penalty. If they are not caught during the game it will likely be a reduction in cap space for the next game, which could force them to dress one less player. I don't see a world where the NHL would allow a team to forfeit a playoff game due to the salary cap.

Looks like Peter Angelo has un-retired now that they've signed marner. Pretty funny how blatant they are with this stuff. I guess they aren't overly worried about a big Evander Kane style league investigation

"Initiative comes to thems that wait"

Jay wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 06:32

oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 04 September 2025 08:26 smyth260 wrote on Thu, 04 September 2025 01:05 Rules are only as good as their punishment, what’s the penalty if a team decides to dress a team above the playoff cap? Anything besides forfeiting the game falls short. This is a complicated but necessary change. I am willing to bet that it will be up to the other team to catch them during the game. Then they would be forced to take a player out of the game and receive a delay of game penalty. If they are not caught during the game it will likely be a reduction in cap space for the next game, which could force them to dress one less player. I don't see a world where the NHL would allow a team to forfeit a playoff game due to the salary cap. Looks like Peter Angelo has un-retired now that they've signed marner. Pretty funny how blatant they are with this stuff. I guess they aren't overly worried about a big Evander Kane style league investigation

It's not that big a deal. He's going to sit out all year, but if he wants to come back in the playoffs then they need to be cap-compliant each game so if they spent the money on Marner or on another high-value defenceman then someone else needs to be sitting to make room for him. They also will struggle to make more deals at the deadline and if they did add people there, they might have to make some line-up decisions based entirely on how much people make.

It will be interesting to see how it works this year and a healthy Pietrangelo come playoff time would be a great test case to say the least.

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Adam wrote on Wed, 24 September 2025 17:14

Jay wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 06:32 oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 04 September 2025 08:26 smyth260 wrote on Thu, 04 September 2025 01:05 Rules are only as good as their punishment, what’s the penalty if a team decides to dress a team above the playoff cap? Anything besides forfeiting the game falls short. This is a complicated but necessary change. I am willing to bet that it will be up to the other team to catch them during the game. Then they would be forced to take a player out of the game and receive a delay of game penalty. If they are not caught during the game it will likely be a reduction in cap space for the next game, which could force them to dress one less player. I don't see a world where the NHL would allow a team to forfeit a playoff game due to the salary cap. Looks like Peter Angelo has un-retired now that they've signed marner. Pretty funny how blatant they are with this stuff. I guess they aren't overly worried about a big Evander Kane style league investigation It's not that big a deal. He's going to sit out all year, but if he wants to come back in the playoffs then they need to be cap-compliant each game so if they spent the money on Marner or on another high-value defenceman then someone else needs to be sitting to make room for him. They also will struggle to make more deals at the deadline and if they did add people there, they might have to make some line-up decisions based entirely on how much people make. It will be interesting to see how it works this year and a healthy Pietrangelo come playoff time would be a great test case to say the least.

There is a catch now.

NHL Rumour Report @NHLRumourReport
Chris Johnston: "The NHL and NHL Players’ Association have left open the possibility of making adjustments to the playoff salary cap if they don’t like how it’s working, so where these rules start in 2025-26 may not be where they end up" - The Athletic (9/20)


How much do you want to bet that the NHL makes an exception for players that were out the entire year? :) The Oilers are not lined up for any full season LTIR guy this year like we had with Kane. So the NHL can play with the rules as they please, and maybe only focus on guys that get put in LTIR close to the deadline. Or maybe just be more blatant and whatever day Florida puts someone in LTIR in Jan/Feb, the day after that is the cutoff.

[Updated on: Wed, 24 September 2025 17:21]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 24 September 2025 17:18

Adam wrote on Wed, 24 September 2025 17:14 Jay wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 06:32 oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 04 September 2025 08:26 smyth260 wrote on Thu, 04 September 2025 01:05 Rules are only as good as their punishment, what’s the penalty if a team decides to dress a team above the playoff cap? Anything besides forfeiting the game falls short. This is a complicated but necessary change. I am willing to bet that it will be up to the other team to catch them during the game. Then they would be forced to take a player out of the game and receive a delay of game penalty. If they are not caught during the game it will likely be a reduction in cap space for the next game, which could force them to dress one less player. I don't see a world where the NHL would allow a team to forfeit a playoff game due to the salary cap. Looks like Peter Angelo has un-retired now that they've signed marner. Pretty funny how blatant they are with this stuff. I guess they aren't overly worried about a big Evander Kane style league investigation It's not that big a deal. He's going to sit out all year, but if he wants to come back in the playoffs then they need to be cap-compliant each game so if they spent the money on Marner or on another high-value defenceman then someone else needs to be sitting to make room for him. They also will struggle to make more deals at the deadline and if they did add people there, they might have to make some line-up decisions based entirely on how much people make. It will be interesting to see how it works this year and a healthy Pietrangelo come playoff time would be a great test case to say the least. There is a catch now. NHL Rumour Report @NHLRumourReport Chris Johnston: "The NHL and NHL Players’ Association have left open the possibility of making adjustments to the playoff salary cap if they don’t like how it’s working, so where these rules start in 2025-26 may not be where they end up" - The Athletic (9/20) How much do you want to bet that the NHL makes an exception for players that were out the entire year? :) The Oilers are not lined up for any full season LTIR guy this year like we had with Kane. So the NHL can play with the rules as they please, and maybe only focus on guys that get put in LTIR close to the deadline. Or maybe just be more blatant and whatever day Florida puts someone in LTIR in Jan/Feb, the day after that is the cutoff.

Also it's just funny that anyone ever thought or believed that he was retiring in the first place. As if he wasn't always coming back for the playoffs. The fact that they are anouncing his un-retirement now that the rules have been modified probably isn't for no reason.

"Initiative comes to thems that wait"