| Oilers Sign Podkolzin to 3 Year Deal [message #847578] |
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 Kr55
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I like this kid, but damn, that's another overpay. Plus this kid seemed to be just in love with the team and group and should have been easy to get a discount out of. This is giving a blank cheque territory based on his actual performance.
Holloway at 2.3M was unacceptable to us a year ago.
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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welcometotheOC
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This doesn't start until next season - as percentage of cap it is not an overpay, especially if his offense is waking up (see last playoffs).
Even without that and a small offensive improvement it is fine.
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Kr55
Messages: 12065
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Location: Edmonton
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| welcometotheOC wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 10:47 |
This doesn't start until next season - as percentage of cap it is not an overpay, especially if his offense is waking up (see last playoffs).
Even without that and a small offensive improvement it is fine.
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Forgot he's signed 1 more year. Also kinda odd we felt the need to rush this deal and just wipe away some of his incentive to perform this year. He was going to be RFA still next summer.
Right now, this is absolutely an overpay. Guy performed like a 4th liner most of the year, sometimes looking horribly lost. He was given some cherry ice time out of desperation and looked "OK" in those situations, but not at all like a guy that should be a regular in the top 6.
He seems popular in the room, and seems to have Drai treating him like he's his mentor. He really seems to have leveraged that to make us desperate to keep him, rather than us leveraging his comfort to get a discount or even fair market value from him on a multi-year deal.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Mike
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 13:35 |
I like this kid, but damn, that's another overpay. Plus this kid seemed to be just in love with the team and group and should have been easy to get a discount out of. This is giving a blank cheque territory based on his actual performance.
Holloway at 2.3M was unacceptable to us a year ago.
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Pretty much all the thoughts that went through my head.
I like the kid. And the potential is certainly there for his contributions to increase. But it feels like we're always giving max term and dollars to fairly replaceable guys. Will be shocked if there's not some stupid NMC on it.
Anyway - I don't hate it. Certainly has the potential to pay off, but I can't imagine that's a whole lot less than the absolute max he could have hoped for.
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Kr55
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Location: Edmonton
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| Mike wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 11:07 |
| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 13:35 |
I like this kid, but damn, that's another overpay. Plus this kid seemed to be just in love with the team and group and should have been easy to get a discount out of. This is giving a blank cheque territory based on his actual performance.
Holloway at 2.3M was unacceptable to us a year ago.
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Pretty much all the thoughts that went through my head.
I like the kid. And the potential is certainly there for his contributions to increase. But it feels like we're always giving max term and dollars to fairly replaceable guys. Will be shocked if there's not some stupid NMC on it.
Anyway - I don't hate it. Certainly has the potential to pay off, but I can't imagine that's a whole lot less than the absolute max he could have hoped for.
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Will be nice if he lives up to that deal.
Guess file it along with Frederic and Nurse.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
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Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 10:13 |
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Will be nice if he lives up to that deal.
Guess file it along with Frederic and Nurse.
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..woa.. maybe along side the Freddy file.. but Nurse? .. thats another filing cabinet.. in an underground vault! 
Pods would have been RFA next year.. but had arb rights.. if he had a decent season I think he'd get a lot with the cap going up.. fingers crossed.
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inverno76
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Still adjusting to the new cap era, and I suppose this is an affordable deal now. 1M-2M players will be ELC’s and rehab players.
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oilfan94
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Location: USA
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| inverno76 wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 15:18 |
Still adjusting to the new cap era, and I suppose this is an affordable deal now. 1M-2M players will be ELC’s and rehab players.
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Inflation is hitting everyone, including the Oilers.
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smyth260
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Registered: November 2007
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No matter the GM of this team, they all seem to hate cap flexibility.
I like his game, but this is a lot and essentially a 4 year commitment to a player that has a career high of 26 points. You don’t do term on those players.
Clean house or bust
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Skookum Jim
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| smyth260 wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 13:51 |
No matter the GM of this team, they all seem to hate cap flexibility.
I like his game, but this is a lot and essentially a 4 year commitment to a player that has a career high of 26 points. You don’t do term on those players.
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its only really an additional 3 year commitment.
Compared to what some of the upcoming RFA's will sign for.. this might not look to bad a deal in hindsight.. a decent comparable might be Evangelista in Nashville.. he's currently RFA.. no hammer.. similar numbers as Podz.. Evangelista turned down 3x3M from Nashville .. rumour is he's looking to bridge on a 2 year instead.. if he improves and gets more points during the bridge deal, plus a bigger team cap.. he'll be getting a lot more than 3M.
Unfortunately I think the market is going up.. all teams have left is the ELC's to keep costs down.. need to bet on a young guy for term.. and that the bet comes up 7's all across.
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smyth260
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 15:00 |
| smyth260 wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 13:51 |
No matter the GM of this team, they all seem to hate cap flexibility.
I like his game, but this is a lot and essentially a 4 year commitment to a player that has a career high of 26 points. You don’t do term on those players.
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its only really an additional 3 year commitment.
Compared to what some of the upcoming RFA's will sign for.. this might not look to bad a deal in hindsight.. a decent comparable might be Evangelista in Nashville.. he's currently RFA.. no hammer.. similar numbers as Podz.. Evangelista turned down 3x3M from Nashville .. rumour is he's looking to bridge on a 2 year instead.. if he improves and gets more points during the bridge deal, plus a bigger team cap.. he'll be getting a lot more than 3M.
Unfortunately I think the market is going up.. all teams have left is the ELC's to keep costs down.. need to bet on a young guy for term.. and that the bet comes up 7's all across.
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They didn’t need to sign him 1 year before his RFA offseason. This deal further limits their flexibility for 4 years. That’s a long time for a career high 26 point player.
Clean house or bust
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welcometotheOC
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Not the same player, but that is what people said about Holloway and Broberg. The Oilers absolutely cannot afford to lose any more even decent young players. If he has a better season points-wise he would be another relatively cheap offer sheet target.
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Kr55
Messages: 12065
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| welcometotheOC wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 18:12 |
Not the same player, but that is what people said about Holloway and Broberg. The Oilers absolutely cannot afford to lose any more even decent young players. If he has a better season points-wise he would be another relatively cheap offer sheet target.
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Would we categorize Podz the same as we prospects that never really got a shot on a big club to show what they can do? Those guys never got to a point where the team that drafted them threw the towel in because they failed pretty badly to do anything with opportunities they were given. Podz looked like a struggling 4th liner for extended periods this season even for us.
We’ll see how this turns out. But we definitely need him to do more than he has ever consistently shown in 217 career games (more than Broberg and Holloway had combined when they left Edmonton) for this to look like a fair deal.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 5361
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 17:33 |
| welcometotheOC wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 18:12 |
Not the same player, but that is what people said about Holloway and Broberg. The Oilers absolutely cannot afford to lose any more even decent young players. If he has a better season points-wise he would be another relatively cheap offer sheet target.
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Would we categorize Podz the same as we prospects that never really got a shot on a big club to show what they can do? Those guys never got to a point where the team that drafted them threw the towel in because they failed pretty badly to do anything with opportunities they were given. Podz looked like a struggling 4th liner for extended periods this season even for us.
We’ll see how this turns out. But we definitely need him to do more than he has ever consistently shown in 217 career games (more than Broberg and Holloway had combined when they left Edmonton) for this to look like a fair deal.
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Not sure comparing to Holloway is completely fair.. we could have signed Holloway for less than the 3M we've signed Podz to next year (maybe 750K less).. but it looks like Holloway's next contract as RFA (next season) will likely be over 5M or maybe 6M (he's got arb rights) .. while we'll have Podz at 3M next year .. so is Holloway worth twice as much as Podz.. ? maybe .. but hopefully Podz narrows that gap this season.. 
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welcometotheOC
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First 4 words: "Not the same player" ....
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Rutuu
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Location: Brisbane
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Well...there's a good chance in year 3 this will be a good deal to get to the cap floor if we're doing it right.
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