Oilers Sign Podkolzin to 3 Year Deal [message #847578] |
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Kr55 Messages: 12064
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I like this kid, but damn, that's another overpay. Plus this kid seemed to be just in love with the team and group and should have been easy to get a discount out of. This is giving a blank cheque territory based on his actual performance.
Holloway at 2.3M was unacceptable to us a year ago.
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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welcometotheOC Messages: 698
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This doesn't start until next season - as percentage of cap it is not an overpay, especially if his offense is waking up (see last playoffs).
Even without that and a small offensive improvement it is fine.
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Kr55 Messages: 12064
Registered: May 2002
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welcometotheOC wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 10:47 | This doesn't start until next season - as percentage of cap it is not an overpay, especially if his offense is waking up (see last playoffs).
Even without that and a small offensive improvement it is fine.
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Forgot he's signed 1 more year. Also kinda odd we felt the need to rush this deal and just wipe away some of his incentive to perform this year. He was going to be RFA still next summer.
Right now, this is absolutely an overpay. Guy performed like a 4th liner most of the year, sometimes looking horribly lost. He was given some cherry ice time out of desperation and looked "OK" in those situations, but not at all like a guy that should be a regular in the top 6.
He seems popular in the room, and seems to have Drai treating him like he's his mentor. He really seems to have leveraged that to make us desperate to keep him, rather than us leveraging his comfort to get a discount or even fair market value from him on a multi-year deal.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Mike Messages: 1887
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 13:35 | I like this kid, but damn, that's another overpay. Plus this kid seemed to be just in love with the team and group and should have been easy to get a discount out of. This is giving a blank cheque territory based on his actual performance.
Holloway at 2.3M was unacceptable to us a year ago.
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Pretty much all the thoughts that went through my head.
I like the kid. And the potential is certainly there for his contributions to increase. But it feels like we're always giving max term and dollars to fairly replaceable guys. Will be shocked if there's not some stupid NMC on it.
Anyway - I don't hate it. Certainly has the potential to pay off, but I can't imagine that's a whole lot less than the absolute max he could have hoped for.
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Kr55 Messages: 12064
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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Mike wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 11:07 |
Kr55 wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 13:35 | I like this kid, but damn, that's another overpay. Plus this kid seemed to be just in love with the team and group and should have been easy to get a discount out of. This is giving a blank cheque territory based on his actual performance.
Holloway at 2.3M was unacceptable to us a year ago.
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Pretty much all the thoughts that went through my head.
I like the kid. And the potential is certainly there for his contributions to increase. But it feels like we're always giving max term and dollars to fairly replaceable guys. Will be shocked if there's not some stupid NMC on it.
Anyway - I don't hate it. Certainly has the potential to pay off, but I can't imagine that's a whole lot less than the absolute max he could have hoped for.
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Will be nice if he lives up to that deal.
Guess file it along with Frederic and Nurse.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim Messages: 5360
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 10:13 | ...
Will be nice if he lives up to that deal.
Guess file it along with Frederic and Nurse.
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..woa.. maybe along side the Freddy file.. but Nurse? .. thats another filing cabinet.. in an underground vault!
Pods would have been RFA next year.. but had arb rights.. if he had a decent season I think he'd get a lot with the cap going up.. fingers crossed.
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inverno76 Messages: 2481
Registered: September 2005
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Still adjusting to the new cap era, and I suppose this is an affordable deal now. 1M-2M players will be ELC’s and rehab players.
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smyth260 Messages: 1210
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No matter the GM of this team, they all seem to hate cap flexibility.
I like his game, but this is a lot and essentially a 4 year commitment to a player that has a career high of 26 points. You don’t do term on those players.
Clean house or bust
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Skookum Jim Messages: 5360
Registered: March 2006
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smyth260 wrote on Tue, 23 September 2025 13:51 | No matter the GM of this team, they all seem to hate cap flexibility.
I like his game, but this is a lot and essentially a 4 year commitment to a player that has a career high of 26 points. You don’t do term on those players.
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its only really an additional 3 year commitment.
Compared to what some of the upcoming RFA's will sign for.. this might not look to bad a deal in hindsight.. a decent comparable might be Evangelista in Nashville.. he's currently RFA.. no hammer.. similar numbers as Podz.. Evangelista turned down 3x3M from Nashville .. rumour is he's looking to bridge on a 2 year instead.. if he improves and gets more points during the bridge deal, plus a bigger team cap.. he'll be getting a lot more than 3M.
Unfortunately I think the market is going up.. all teams have left is the ELC's to keep costs down.. need to bet on a young guy for term.. and that the bet comes up 7's all across.
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