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McDavid Contract Talks [message #847432]	Tue, 02 September 2025 11:06

Adam
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Some concern starting to show around the lack of a new deal for 97. Hopefully it gets done fairly quickly.

He was pretty clear that he wanted to see how management was ensuring that we remain in the hunt for a Cup. The Oilers seem set to start the season with the exact same defective goalie tandem that wasn't good enough the last two years.

You'll have Edmonton media guys try to tell us that hey - we were only one win away last year, and two this year so how bad can the goaltending be, but the reality is that Skinner has been atrocious in the post-season and the team has won in spite of him. Pickard is a journeyman back-up late in his career. The fact he started games while our "starter" was still healthy in the Stanley Cup Finals is a huge red flag.

Skinner's .893 Sv% in 50 games played is the WORST of any goalie with over 30 appearances in the playoffs since 2000. The only one with worse results with 20+ games played is Dan Cloutier who was a staggering .872 in 25 starts. And while if you asked people, most would say Pickard has been notably better, his save percentage is actually worse (.892).

If there's a plan to improve this tandem as the season goes on, then they better be communicating that to McDavid. Right now, this is looking like the definition of insanity - and I do wonder if it's not the biggest reason we don't have even a short extension done.

Maybe they'll surprise us all, and the real reason is that they're working on finding a way to get him signed long-term - but I feel this is probably the more likely explanation.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847436 is a reply to message #847432 ]	Tue, 02 September 2025 12:02

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I start to worry if it goes after tomorrow.

Drai signed his extension Sep 3rd, 2024.

The wife is keeping up with social media. I guess McDavid's wife posted about her new matching friendship pinky rings with Drai's girl icon_lol

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Keep the faith that players are generally clueless about team construction, and give huge amounts of undeserved respect to their managers, and guys like McDavid blame themselves for the failures more than anyone else. It hasn't failed us yet! In terms of keeping our big names I mean. Our big players not leveraging their ability to leave, and pointing a finger at our terrible management and demanding it be fixed properly certainly did cause our team to be managed like crap for a decade of McDavid already, and make us fail to win a cup.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847437 is a reply to message #847432 ]	Tue, 02 September 2025 12:16

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If we get to game 1 without an extension, I sure as hell hope they are at very least top of their division after a month or two. I have a lot of doubt that he will sign with a 10th place team.

I seriously worry about trade discussions by Christmas.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847448 is a reply to message #847437 ]	Tue, 02 September 2025 13:37

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Not feeling as optimistic as I was a couple of weeks ago. I still think it will get done, but I would be lying if I said I was not at all concerned.

The goalies over McDavid's 10 seasons (how the hell is it 10 years already?!?!?!)

Starter his first 3 years - Talbot. Pretty solid numbers the first 2, but not great in the 3rd, then pretty bad in his 4th when we added Koskinen. Then we followed that up with 3 years of Koskinen and Smith, then Skinner and Campbell, and Skinner/Pickard the last 2, and looking like we're in for a 3rd year of that.

Can't blame him if this concerns him and is part of the reason he's waiting to sign.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847450 is a reply to message #847432 ]	Tue, 02 September 2025 15:42

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Carter Hart is our goalie solution...we all know it to be true.

I expect the NHL to lay out a way that the players involved in the incident in 2018 have a path back. And we've already given Kane / Bowman chances, it seems on brand now.

As for McDavid, he's got Matthews's agent, so I expect shorter deals to take advantage of the cap. Draisatl is still here, and signed long term, so that will be a big pull. If he's unsigned into the playoffs, well yeah...he's going to Toronto, but bar that I have positive feelings something gets done.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847467 is a reply to message #847432 ]	Thu, 04 September 2025 13:56

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Wth, we just went past the 1 year anniversary of Drai's deal.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847468 is a reply to message #847432 ]	Thu, 04 September 2025 17:05

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My take? The Oilers need to show McD what the future looks like for this team.

He's spent his time with a team that has been in cap hell for almost all his tenure, so yeah if I was McDavid, I'd ask a question on the future of this team.

The cupboards aren't empty, just thinly stocked.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847470 is a reply to message #847432 ]	Fri, 05 September 2025 10:45

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McDavid saying all the right things for fans in his Rishaug interview

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/connor-mcdavid-says-confidence-in-edm onton-oilers-has-never-been-higher-1.2355239

If you take him at his word here, it seems like they are just trying to find the right balance of cap hit/term that still lets the team be competitive. McDavid has his own duty to push the limits individual cap hits for the NHLPA. Seems likely he ends up with a ~4 year deal because of how much the cap is expected to rise. Dif between a 4 and 8 year deal is probably 1-2M of cap hit.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847471 is a reply to message #847470 ]	Fri, 05 September 2025 12:15

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I get the idea of pushing the cap, but at the same time more players would make more money if he took less (think Crosby and his 8.7). Also, when a guy's made over 100 mil in a career so far, how much more could he possibly need for 'security'?
Also, if he was to take a lower hit, the more the cap increases the more competitive team we could put around him. Or we could give 4-5 million dollar deals to 4th liners......

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847472 is a reply to message #847471 ]	Fri, 05 September 2025 13:03

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Dragon_Matt wrote on Fri, 05 September 2025 12:15

I get the idea of pushing the cap, but at the same time more players would make more money if he took less (think Crosby and his 8.7). Also, when a guy's made over 100 mil in a career so far, how much more could he possibly need for 'security'?
Also, if he was to take a lower hit, the more the cap increases the more competitive team we could put around him. Or we could give 4-5 million dollar deals to 4th liners......

It isn't about security, or about what he's made previously. It's about the fact that every contract in the league is used as a precedent for the contracts that follow - both in negotiations and in arbitration. McDavid is understood to be the best player in the league so he's going to have significant pressure from the NHL to set the bar high on what the best player gets paid because it impacts the other star players - most won't be able to convince their teams to pay them more than what McDavid is making.

There is a certain ego piece to it as well - you're the best, you want to get paid like it. You're not going to want Jack Bleeping Eichel or some other jackhole earning more money than you do.

Finally, the Oilers use of extra cap room in the past probably does hurt them to some extent here. Yes, it's a new administration, but they still see some of those same clowns in the office (Nicholson) or hanging around the lunch room (Lowe, MacTavish). When McDavid signed his last deal, he left us room to build around him and we spent $4MM a year on Kris Russell and ~$1MM a year on Eric Gryba (having to buy him out of the second year of that) and then spent most of the next 3-4 years saying we weren't ready to compete.

We've been fast to overpay marginal players and have NOT had the New England Patriots approach where if your stars are leaving money on the table, then everyone else has to as well. The management has been too scared to overplay that hand, and so they pay everyone top dollar. Given that, taking a team-friendly discount as the guy who actually makes the difference becomes pretty unpalatable. If the team had built some incredible depth we probably already have a couple of Cups. As it is, whether we win or lose in the playoffs generally rides on whether McDavid gets a point...soooo...I think it's understandable if he doesn't rush to give us a $9.7MM/year deal.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847473 is a reply to message #847471 ]	Fri, 05 September 2025 13:34

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Dragon_Matt wrote on Fri, 05 September 2025 14:15

I get the idea of pushing the cap, but at the same time more players would make more money if he took less (think Crosby and his 8.7). Also, when a guy's made over 100 mil in a career so far, how much more could he possibly need for 'security'?
Also, if he was to take a lower hit, the more the cap increases the more competitive team we could put around him. Or we could give 4-5 million dollar deals to 4th liners......

Crosby continuing to just take $8.7M a year instead of pushing past $10M is actually one of the biggest things he has done to make me respect him more.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847474 is a reply to message #847473 ]	Fri, 05 September 2025 15:01

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oilfan94 wrote on Fri, 05 September 2025 13:34

Dragon_Matt wrote on Fri, 05 September 2025 14:15

I get the idea of pushing the cap, but at the same time more players would make more money if he took less (think Crosby and his 8.7). Also, when a guy's made over 100 mil in a career so far, how much more could he possibly need for 'security'?
Also, if he was to take a lower hit, the more the cap increases the more competitive team we could put around him. Or we could give 4-5 million dollar deals to 4th liners......

Crosby continuing to just take $8.7M a year instead of pushing past $10M is actually one of the biggest things he has done to make me respect him more.

Just to add perspective to Crosby's 2nd big deal. Crosby did get to sign a 12 year deal, which isn't possible now.

Also, Crosby signed for 13.53% of the cap. The equivalent of that for 26/27 would be a 14.07M x 12 year deal which would be, by cap hit, the richest deal ever right now, just ahead of Drai.

Crosby kinda took a bit of a discount, but it was still a massive deal, with the benefit of adding years when I'm sure both partiest agreed his play would be falling off.

[Updated on: Fri, 05 September 2025 15:03]

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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847475 is a reply to message #847474 ]	Fri, 05 September 2025 21:44

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 05 September 2025 15:01

oilfan94 wrote on Fri, 05 September 2025 13:34

Dragon_Matt wrote on Fri, 05 September 2025 14:15

I get the idea of pushing the cap, but at the same time more players would make more money if he took less (think Crosby and his 8.7). Also, when a guy's made over 100 mil in a career so far, how much more could he possibly need for 'security'?
Also, if he was to take a lower hit, the more the cap increases the more competitive team we could put around him. Or we could give 4-5 million dollar deals to 4th liners......

Crosby continuing to just take $8.7M a year instead of pushing past $10M is actually one of the biggest things he has done to make me respect him more.

Just to add perspective to Crosby's 2nd big deal. Crosby did get to sign a 12 year deal, which isn't possible now.

Also, Crosby signed for 13.53% of the cap. The equivalent of that for 26/27 would be a 14.07M x 12 year deal which would be, by cap hit, the richest deal ever right now, just ahead of Drai.

Crosby kinda took a bit of a discount, but it was still a massive deal, with the benefit of adding years when I'm sure both partiest agreed his play would be falling off.

Also Crosby was still a major injury concern at that time. Crosby definitely gave a team discount but I look more at a guy like Draisaitl. His last deal (for max term) was the biggest steal in the NHL for basically the entire time. And coming out of that he immediately signs another 8 year deal with the team at barely market value knowing that the cap is projected to skyrocket.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847476 is a reply to message #847475 ]	Fri, 05 September 2025 22:09

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97 can say as often as he likes that going into the season without an extension won't be a distraction but the reality is that it will be an enormous distraction and he knows that. Not to mention that not signing is essentially confirming that he is done in Edmonton in 2026.

Whatever negotiating and bargaining is going on behind the scenes it really doesn't matter. Get a deal done - he can not start the year without an extension. If he does they are going to need to start figuring out how to go about trading Connor Mcdavid.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847487 is a reply to message #847476 ]	Mon, 08 September 2025 13:57

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Jay wrote on Fri, 05 September 2025 21:09

97 can say as often as he likes that going into the season without an extension won't be a distraction but the reality is that it will be an enormous distraction and he knows that. Not to mention that not signing is essentially confirming that he is done in Edmonton in 2026.

Whatever negotiating and bargaining is going on behind the scenes it really doesn't matter. Get a deal done - he can not start the year without an extension. If he does they are going to need to start figuring out how to go about trading Connor Mcdavid.

It sounds to me like he wants to go to UFA and get the best deal for himself. He can literally get an offer from every team in the league and take his pick. He may or may not take the deal for the most money, but he will have his own criteria. That's what free agency is for, and it's definitely what I would do for myself if I had the opportunity.

He doesn't owe Edmonton anything.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847488 is a reply to message #847487 ]	Mon, 08 September 2025 15:11

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Steve wrote on Mon, 08 September 2025 13:57

Jay wrote on Fri, 05 September 2025 21:09

97 can say as often as he likes that going into the season without an extension won't be a distraction but the reality is that it will be an enormous distraction and he knows that. Not to mention that not signing is essentially confirming that he is done in Edmonton in 2026.

Whatever negotiating and bargaining is going on behind the scenes it really doesn't matter. Get a deal done - he can not start the year without an extension. If he does they are going to need to start figuring out how to go about trading Connor Mcdavid.

It sounds to me like he wants to go to UFA and get the best deal for himself. He can literally get an offer from every team in the league and take his pick. He may or may not take the deal for the most money, but he will have his own criteria. That's what free agency is for, and it's definitely what I would do for myself if I had the opportunity.

He doesn't owe Edmonton anything.

True - and the city/team don't owe him anything. He can do what he wants and his teammates, fans etc can feel how they want about his choice.

The fact that it will continue to be a massive distraction is undeniable though. I do think if he wants to go to UFA that's fine and his choice but its not unreasonable to expect him to make that clear to the team and allow them to get something for him. Along the lines of what Tkatchuk did in Calgary.

Either way if he starts the year without a contract, he's gone anyways so just for entertainment sake it would be fun if they ripped the 'C' off his jersey and put it on 29 where it belongs.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847482 is a reply to message #847432 ]	Sun, 07 September 2025 21:46

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847485 is a reply to message #847482 ]	Mon, 08 September 2025 11:37

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I can’t believe we are really looking at the possibility of losing McDavid. Does he have a full NMC? Going into the last year of a generational player’s contract without an extension, and he has a NMC to boot. I’m not loving this.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847489 is a reply to message #847432 ]	Mon, 08 September 2025 15:59

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I feel like Friedman is part troll now, but his latest educated guess was McDavid signs for 2 years around 16M. Gives him a chance to do another deal while he's still performing at an elite level after the cap has gone through significant bumps. And obviously would let him evaluate the job our management is doing again.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847490 is a reply to message #847432 ]	Mon, 08 September 2025 16:20

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How long does Connor Sign For?[ 25 vote(s) ]

1. Doesn't.. will go to UFA.. and Toronto plans their parade.. but McD signs with NYR 3 / 12%
2. 1 1 / 4%
3. 2 3 / 12%
4. 3 0 / 0%
5. 4 11 / 44%
6. 5 2 / 8%
7. 6 0 / 0%
8. 7 0 / 0%
9. 8 Years.. the Max.. and he will become synonmous with the Edmonton Oilers Franchise for ALL TIME ... the one that never left! 5 / 20%

How long does McDavid sign in Edmonton?

I caught one thing in an interview that made me hopeful for max term..

McDavid mentioned that with regards to unrestricted free agency .. "you only go through this once in your career.." so he was going to take his time and not rush it.. (to paraphrase)

The key word I heard was "once" .. (because I'm a die-hard Oil optimist).. 🙂
So I'm crossing my fingers he's considering what an 8 year contract number should look like.. such as; what the future 8 year NHL roster cap limits could project to.. and how his contract number could affect his chances in winning in Edmonton with regards to what is left of the Oiler roster cap after McD, Leon, and Bouchard.. (I'm already assuming they've already looked at ways to unload Nurse's contract in a couple years when its doable with respect to his NMC)

A couple more hopeful considerations..

He's also gone through a serious , almost career ending injury.. that he may still be conscious of.. shorter term contracts assume there is minimal risk he'll get injured.. and that there will be other (bigger) contracts afterwards..

So I think an 8 year is what he'd want if he had income and family security as a higher priority .. and the Oilers are the only team that can offer him a contract as long as 8 years.. he can only get 7 as a UFA

An 8 year would also make me super super happy.. 😊

I wouldn't even care if we won the Cup.. just to watch him rule the NHL as an Oiler would be enough for me.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847491 is a reply to message #847490 ]	Mon, 08 September 2025 16:58

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Hoping for 8 years too, probably with almost everyone else here.

I hope it's at least 4 if it isn't max. less than 4 and we are all stressing in no time about his future here.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847497 is a reply to message #847432 ]	Tue, 09 September 2025 13:43

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.. and another (rose colored glasses) plus for an 8 year max signing.. Leon's and McDavid's wives are besties.. NHL wives (and families) spend a lot of time separated from each other during the season.. they might want to be able to hang out together in the same city.. ? 😊

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847498 is a reply to message #847497 ]	Tue, 09 September 2025 15:00

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I voted with my heart, not my head. Can only be hopeful really.

Although I'll cancel my seats next year if the Oilers lose McD.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847499 is a reply to message #847498 ]	Tue, 09 September 2025 15:36

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Adam wrote on Tue, 09 September 2025 14:00

.. Although I'll cancel my seats next year if the Oilers lose McD.

.. no negative waves man!

Classic:

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847526 is a reply to message #847432 ]	Fri, 12 September 2025 23:50

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he ain't going no where.. This boy belongs in Oil Country

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847539 is a reply to message #847526 ]	Wed, 17 September 2025 06:23

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OUff - that was hard to watch. I think we're getting Marnered boys. boom

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847540 is a reply to message #847539 ]	Wed, 17 September 2025 07:34

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Mike wrote on Wed, 17 September 2025 06:23

OUff - that was hard to watch. I think we're getting Marnered boys. boom

boom

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey /oilers-connor-mcdavid-edmonton-friedman

Dunno. Think he is just sick of questions about it, and he knows the 2 guys asking him in this situation desperately want to hear him say he is leaving to Toronto. McDavid has never been an easy personality to get a read on. Heard from someone friendly with one of the tweeners in camp though that McDavid is almost frighteningly intense in camp this year. Seems he is extra pissy off and on a mission after last playoffs.

Just to note too, Marner left because he hated the fans, media and the pressure. If McDavid leaves it’s because he doesn’t believe in our managements ability to build a winner. That would suck of course, but I would have a hard time disagreeing with him.

[Updated on: Wed, 17 September 2025 07:39]

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847541 is a reply to message #847540 ]	Wed, 17 September 2025 09:10

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 17 September 2025 10:34

Mike wrote on Wed, 17 September 2025 06:23

OUff - that was hard to watch. I think we're getting Marnered boys. boom

boom

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey /oilers-connor-mcdavid-edmonton-friedman

Dunno. Think he is just sick of questions about it, and he knows the 2 guys asking him in this situation desperately want to hear him say he is leaving to Toronto. McDavid has never been an easy personality to get a read on. Heard from someone friendly with one of the tweeners in camp though that McDavid is almost frighteningly intense in camp this year. Seems he is extra pissy off and on a mission after last playoffs.

Just to note too, Marner left because he hated the fans, media and the pressure. If McDavid leaves it’s because he doesn’t believe in our managements ability to build a winner. That would suck of course, but I would have a hard time disagreeing with him.

Oh heading back into season 11 without a starting goalie, yet again, I would not blame him either.

And you think he's sick of the questions now? Just wait until the season starts and he has not signed yet.

I agree he's always held his cards fairly close to the chest, but this sounds different. And he doesn't strike me as someone to play games. We know he can sign for whatever dollar amount he wants, so that's not the hold up. The words he is choosing (I "intend" to win in Edmonton), and now with this interview a focus almost exclusively on the 25-26 Oilers...it just sounds different to me. Hope I'm wrong.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847542 is a reply to message #847541 ]	Wed, 17 September 2025 09:18

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Mike wrote on Wed, 17 September 2025 09:10

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 17 September 2025 10:34

Mike wrote on Wed, 17 September 2025 06:23

OUff - that was hard to watch. I think we're getting Marnered boys. boom

boom

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey /oilers-connor-mcdavid-edmonton-friedman

Dunno. Think he is just sick of questions about it, and he knows the 2 guys asking him in this situation desperately want to hear him say he is leaving to Toronto. McDavid has never been an easy personality to get a read on. Heard from someone friendly with one of the tweeners in camp though that McDavid is almost frighteningly intense in camp this year. Seems he is extra pissy off and on a mission after last playoffs.

Just to note too, Marner left because he hated the fans, media and the pressure. If McDavid leaves it’s because he doesn’t believe in our managements ability to build a winner. That would suck of course, but I would have a hard time disagreeing with him.

Oh heading back into season 11 without a starting goalie, yet again, I would not blame him either.

And you think he's sick of the questions now? Just wait until the season starts and he has not signed yet.

I agree he's always held his cards fairly close to the chest, but this sounds different. And he doesn't strike me as someone to play games. We know he can sign for whatever dollar amount he wants, so that's not the hold up. The words he is choosing (I "intend" to win in Edmonton), and now with this interview a focus almost exclusively on the 25-26 Oilers...it just sounds different to me. Hope I'm wrong.

Didn't you hear? Stuart Skinner has transformed into Stuart Skinnier now. We're golden in net! :)

Maybe it's my own cope at work, but I just see him just trying to be consistent in his answers, and really not wanting to negotiate out in the open at all. His agent may have also convinced him to wait for Kaprizov to be done, and not be the one giving Kaprizov the ammo to negotiate with. Especially if McDavid signs longer term, and Kaprizov just immediately leapfrogs his cap hit on a 3-4 year deal.

All out of our hands, hopes and prayers for a McSignature on a nice deal.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847543 is a reply to message #847539 ]	Wed, 17 September 2025 09:19

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Mike wrote on Wed, 17 September 2025 06:23

OUff - that was hard to watch. I think we're getting Marnered boys. boom

boom

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey /oilers-connor-mcdavid-edmonton-friedman

Looks that way doesn't it?

The radio and media play is that "let's not read into it", or "where else is he going to go to win?" or "He's signing but a short term deal"

Watching it, his mannerisms, his tone, his posturing.. he's gone.

The team is almost the same as it was last year, nothing else has changed. CMcD's position hasn't changed, nothing changed.

This season should be regarded as McDavid's farewell tour with the Oilers. Until he is signed past this season should be regarded as that.

The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847544 is a reply to message #847543 ]	Wed, 17 September 2025 10:02

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Rocksteady wrote on Wed, 17 September 2025 12:19

The team is almost the same as it was last year, nothing else has changed. CMcD's position hasn't changed, nothing changed.

That said - we just made back to back finals. Made it to game 7 2 years ago. Actually had a lead in the series this year and tied 2-2. It's not like we were miles away from them. We outshot them in 5 of 6 games. We got destroyed in the special teams battle, and Bennett and Marchand killed us.

Goaltending definitely cost us both years. But this year, I think other than McDavid and Draisaitl, there could not have been a bigger loss to the team than Hyman. I truly believe he would have moved the needle for us in the finals. He was a man possessed.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847545 is a reply to message #847544 ]	Wed, 17 September 2025 10:51

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Mike wrote on Wed, 17 September 2025 10:02

That said - we just made back to back finals. Made it to game 7 2 years ago. Actually had a lead in the series this year and tied 2-2. It's not like we were miles away from them. We outshot them in 5 of 6 games. We got destroyed in the special teams battle, and Bennett and Marchand killed us.

Goaltending definitely cost us both years. But this year, I think other than McDavid and Draisaitl, there could not have been a bigger loss to the team than Hyman. I truly believe he would have moved the needle for us in the finals. He was a man possessed.

Completely fair comment; the pieces are here and we just need to find a bit more gears to move over the hump.

McD still leaves after a cup win I think.. so let's hope in his final year we see some magic and ride that to the cup.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847547 is a reply to message #847545 ]	Wed, 17 September 2025 13:39

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If we get to game 1 of the season and he hasn't signed an extension rip the C of his chest and give it to the real captain. The guy who signed a second max term deal with the Oilers after playing the majority of his last max term deal as the best bargain in the league. The guy who has committed to being part of the solution in Edmonton and making the team better by his play and leadership - not gravy training and bouncing around to the team that already has the best chance to win. It's a fundamental difference in approaches. Building something yourself vs looking for the best opportunity to take advantage of what someone else has built.

If Mcdavid leaves to go chasing cups I'm fine with it - it's his legacy and it will be hilarious when he ends up playing for 4 or 5 teams and is still chasing. The only problem I really have is if he marners them. In that scenario any loyalty the team or city had to him should be out the window.

I'm still relatively optimistic that he will sign but IF he doesn't (by the start of the season) then it's time to cut bait and make it very clear that he needs to waive his NMC so they can get something for him. If he won't? Make his life as miserable as possible in Edmonton until he does. The team or city doesn't owe him a thing and letting him walk for nothing after stringing the team along all year is a disaster.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847550 is a reply to message #847547 ]	Wed, 17 September 2025 15:10

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Jay wrote on Wed, 17 September 2025 12:39

If we get to game 1 of the season and he hasn't signed an extension rip the C of his chest and give it to the real captain. The guy who signed a second max term deal with the Oilers after playing the majority of his last max term deal as the best bargain in the league. The guy who has committed to being part of the solution in Edmonton and making the team better by his play and leadership - not gravy training and bouncing around to the team that already has the best chance to win. It's a fundamental difference in approaches. Building something yourself vs looking for the best opportunity to take advantage of what someone else has built.

If Mcdavid leaves to go chasing cups I'm fine with it - it's his legacy and it will be hilarious when he ends up playing for 4 or 5 teams and is still chasing. The only problem I really have is if he marners them. In that scenario any loyalty the team or city had to him should be out the window.

I'm still relatively optimistic that he will sign but IF he doesn't (by the start of the season) then it's time to cut bait and make it very clear that he needs to waive his NMC so they can get something for him. If he won't? Make his life as miserable as possible in Edmonton until he does. The team or city doesn't owe him a thing and letting him walk for nothing after stringing the team along all year is a disaster.

It doesn't sound like you're fine with it. That's OK, but I think it's better to think of McDavid as a UFA rental this year. There is a better chance of the Oilers winning a cup if he stays and plays out the year, than if they trade him. There is no possible return in a trade that would make the Oilers better this year, unless another team is silly enough to also take Nurse and give back a #1D, #1/2 Centre, and a Top 10 goalie.

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Re: McDavid Contract Talks [message #847552 is a reply to message #847432 ]	Wed, 17 September 2025 15:38

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It is surprising that none of the big fish for next year's UFA class – McDavid, Makar, Eichel, Connor, Kaprizov, Panarin, Robertson – have reached extensions this summer. Wonder if there is a bit of a holding pattern and that others are waiting for someone (probably McDavid) to set the market. Wonder if McDavid doesn't want to sign a deal only to have Panarin or Kaprizov sign for more. I'm not sure, but while I don't have good feelings about McDavid not being signed, it sort of seems like nobody has locked up their UFAs for next summer.

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