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 Re: 2025 RFA's/UFA's [message #847335 is a reply to message #847334 ]
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Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 12 July 2025 19:33


You haven't read the testimony.


I have. I don't come to the same conclusion from it that you do that these poor boys are being railroaded by the justice system. He doesn't know why he wanted to get Fabbro there. He doesn't remember Dube slapping her ass. He says he didn't see anything disrespectful or out of line and that he'd have definitely left immediately if he had or maybe even stopped it. He said she wanted it and was offering sex up to everyone in the room. He says professional athletes get women to film consent videos sometimes. He's heard of it happening. It's not that strange to him. He says Foote just did a fully-clothed splits over the girl and that it would be weird if he'd teabagged her.

I think he's very concerned about the possibility of consequences here and probably already pretty shocked at the consequences he's already felt.

I'll be clear on my bias here. I've heard for years from people in Sherwood Park that he was a spoiled, entitled kid and that he is actually not a good person. I've heard his family isn't great to deal with either. And I don't see anything in all of this to suggest that those reports are untrue.



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 Re: 2025 RFA's/UFA's [message #847331 is a reply to message #845340 ]
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Gotta take back my Hart speculation I guess. Oilers putting out the word they are not interested at all

Gregor tweet and other sources saying the same.



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Edmonton will not be approaching him, even if he is found not guilty. #NHL



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 Re: 2025 RFA's/UFA's [message #847340 is a reply to message #845340 ]
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Skookum Jim  is currently offline Skookum Jim
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FYI, If anyone wants to read testimony from the Hockey Canada trial, Jane Sims at NP has been covering it .. latest to oldest
They've had two mistrials, currently no jury, and is judge only.. decision due by July 24th

https://nationalpost.com/news/local-news/hockey-canada-trial -defence-argues-womans-story-built-on-white-lie/wcm/ac7a94e1 -4109-4b1d-b267-118bcfe1f619
https://nationalpost.com/sports/hockey/junior-hockey/live-ho ckey-canada-trial-continues-at-london-courthouse/wcm/c48bfe5 0-1270-4462-a41d-cdf0bb64b594
https://nationalpost.com/news/local-news/live-nhler-to-face- cross-examination-at-hockey-canada-trial/wcm/0ec90359-e88e-4 b79-9be7-03b40390503c
https://nationalpost.com/news/local-news/live-ex-teammates-t estimony-resumes-at-hockey-canada-trial/wcm/e93d9fbc-9e43-4d 44-bb0b-380772062295
https://nationalpost.com/news/local-news/live-hockey-canada- trial-continues-wednesday/wcm/cfa59c4f-b8c8-4cdb-8d99-098a16 b8fc32
https://nationalpost.com/news/local-news/live-hockey-canada- trial-continues-tuesday/wcm/b9804503-0e26-4e91-bcc1-8c192d90 75cb
https://nationalpost.com/news/local-news/live-at-hockey-cana da-trial-complainant-testifies-for-seventh-day/wcm/1cf95b51- e961-412d-a601-6628a69d451e
https://nationalpost.com/news/local-news/live-hockey-canada- trial-continues-in-london/wcm/448027b8-540b-438e-81ad-e2d2d3 63ea00
https://nationalpost.com/sports/hockey/junior-hockey/live-ho ckey-canada-trial-continues/wcm/168af6e4-4193-4a6f-9f36-9aab 4cfc999f
https://nationalpost.com/sports/hockey/junior-hockey/live-co mplainant-testimony-continues-at-hockey-canada-trial/wcm/c70 03bc2-c7fd-47c1-8a8d-23e1525f97d2
https://nationalpost.com/sports/hockey/junior-hockey/live-co mplainant-resumes-testimony-at-hockey-canada-trial/wcm/9fb19 bf7-10b3-431e-86d1-5cc35d31ed8f
https://nationalpost.com/sports/hockey/junior-hockey/crown-o utlines-case-for-new-jury-in-hockey-canada-sexual-assault-tr ial/wcm/6f2b5c46-617c-4a94-b908-fe87ce054f32
https://nationalpost.com/sports/hockey/junior-hockey/mistria l-upends-hockey-canada-sexual-assault-trial-re-start-underwa y/wcm/beb902f0-7498-49da-a952-5d1e4cbe0080
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/hockey-canada-sexual-as sault-case-mistrial
https://nationalpost.com/news/local-news/live-opening-statem ents-at-the-hockey-canada-sexual-assault-trial/wcm/44df44aa- 0d25-4882-9df6-2f64bdb61921
https://nationalpost.com/news/local-news/what-to-know-as-the -hockey-canada-sexual-assault-trial-starts-in-london/wcm/2c0 b1bee-724f-4184-92ee-d18f7bca1434



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 Re: 2025 RFA's/UFA's [message #847346 is a reply to message #845340 ]
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Now that Dustin Schwartz's #1 student Hart appears to be a no-go, the media speculation is turning to Dustin Schwartz's #2 student Tristan Jarry.

Some Jarry stats to get everyone familiar with his Schwartz'y he is:


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Tristan Jarry played 22 games this season.

He allowed a goal on the first shot he faced 6 times
On the second shot 4 times
On the third shot 2 times
On the fourth shot 4 times
On the fifth shot 3 times

He made it to shot 6 without allowing a goal SIX TIMES in 22 games.




Jarry/Skinner would probably look a lot like Campbell/Skinner, but maybe with a little less mental illness issues. With the goalies I mean, the fan mental illness caused by our goaltending would be about the same.



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 Re: 2025 RFA's/UFA's [message #847347 is a reply to message #847346 ]
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I just can't imagine anyone thinks Jarry is the answer at this point. We're going into McDavid's 11th season and people think this is the goalie to go with?


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 Re: 2025 RFA's/UFA's [message #847348 is a reply to message #845340 ]
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I'm not sure Jarry is the answer either. I do think it's likely he's an upgrade on Pickard, but the cap hit is problematic for someone with a lot of question marks.

There's two things Jarry has working in his favour: Like Gibson, he has a past record of success, and has been playing for really bad teams in front of him. It's not inconceivable to think he could look good again with a decent team in front of him. And second, he was quite good towards the end of the season, once he was called back up from the AHL in March. In the 14 games he started, he was over .900 in 9 of them, had 2 shutouts, had 5 games where he allowed 2 goals or less, and was pulled twice.

Again, not saying he is the answer, especially at his price point, but I'm not sure there are a ton of better options. Maybe grabbing one of the Bruins trio of goalies.



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 Re: 2025 RFA's/UFA's [message #847369 is a reply to message #845340 ]
Thu, 24 July 2025 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Welp, all the Hockey Canada lads are found not guilty

Carter Hart!

https://media.tenor.com/6jcZ5zmJwhcAAAAM/come-on-down-game-show.gif



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 Re: 2025 RFA's/UFA's [message #847374 is a reply to message #845340 ]
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Quote:

'I do not find the evidence of (the complainant) to be either credible or reliable,' Justice Maria Carroccia ruled, adding that the Crown hadn't proven its case



Summary by Jane Sims here;
https://nationalpost.com/news/local-news/all-five-players-ac quitted-in-hockey-canada-sexual-assault-trial/wcm/ca56ed98-d e4b-44a1-8397-2147443b2466

[Updated on: Thu, 24 July 2025 16:48]


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 Re: 2025 RFA's/UFA's [message #847376 is a reply to message #845340 ]
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Defendants lawyer comments;
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/hockey-canada-sex-assau lt-trial-defence-reactions



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 Re: 2025 RFA's/UFA's [message #847378 is a reply to message #845340 ]
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Judge's 91 page (detailed) ruling..

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-read-hockey-c anada-sex-assault-trial-verdict/

[Updated on: Thu, 24 July 2025 19:43]


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 Re: 2025 RFA's/UFA's [message #847390 is a reply to message #845340 ]
Sat, 26 July 2025 11:19 Go to previous message
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Didn’t know the Flyers still had an option to keep Hart, but sounds like they won’t anyway


Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli

No surprise, but #Flyers are not issuing a qualifying offer to Carter Hart before today’s 5pm deadline to retain his rights.

Hart will become an UFA on Monday, likely along with the other four players charged in the Team Canada 2018 alleged sexual assault



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