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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846884 is a reply to message #846859 ]	Tue, 24 June 2025 15:55

Skookum Jim
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E. Kane vs. Frederic[ 17 vote(s) ]

1. E. Kane at $5.125M x 1 13 / 76%
2. T. Frederic at $3.85M x 8 (saving $1.275M assuming Kane Traded) 4 / 24%

What would you prefer?

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846892 is a reply to message #846859 ]	Tue, 24 June 2025 19:25

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Staffer says Perry wants 2 x 2.5M

I mean, considering he outperformed all our other wingers this year in the regular season and playoffs, I get where he is coming from. Of course that’s also a massive embarrassment for our current winger group. But dang that would be a lot to go in 2 years and the deal can’t be taken off the cap if he retires after year 1.

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846893 is a reply to message #846892 ]	Tue, 24 June 2025 19:39

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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 24 June 2025 18:25

To be fair, Stauff didn't actually say Perry is "asking" for 2.5M he said he could probably "get" 2.5M on the UFA market.

But most of those teams would not be contenders.. He wants to win The Cup.. so I could see Perry coming back for low, plus some bonuses.. He brings a lot of value .. all around..

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846899 is a reply to message #846859 ]	Wed, 25 June 2025 09:16

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Kane gone to the Nucks. The offseason has started. Straight cap dump. Wow.

https://x.com/frank_seravalli/status/1937893533568123378?s=4 6

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846906 is a reply to message #846899 ]	Wed, 25 June 2025 09:44

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inverno76 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 09:16

Kane gone to the Nucks. The offseason has started. Straight cap dump. Wow.

https://x.com/frank_seravalli/status/1937893533568123378?s=4 6

Imagine lots of fans will be unhappy. But I personally think Kane has been a pain in the butt to the org for 2 years now regarding his injuries. I have no idea what was going on with him in the finals this year. Time to move on I guess.

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846917 is a reply to message #846906 ]	Wed, 25 June 2025 11:41

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 08:44

inverno76 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 09:16

Kane gone to the Nucks. The offseason has started. Straight cap dump. Wow.

https://x.com/frank_seravalli/status/1937893533568123378?s=4 6

He was a hot and cold guy. And as time went on he leaned more to cold. And dumb penalties in playoff games. But it's also hard to gauge because he did also get some big goals in big moments too. Enjoyed him as an Oiler, but it felt like time.

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846933 is a reply to message #846859 ]	Wed, 25 June 2025 14:06

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I was looking at the Oilers roster on Capwages (https://capwages.com/teams/edmonton_oilers) and one thing that jumps out to me is that we have stunningly few drafted and developed players in the organization:

On the main roster:
McDavid
Draisaitl
Nugent-Hopkins
Bouchard
Nurse
Skinner

In the System:
O'Reilly (1st rd, 2024)
Clattenburg (4th rd 2024)
Petrov (Rd 6 2021)
Akey (Rd 2 2023)
Kemp (Rd 7 2018)
Rodrigue (Rd 2 2018)
Day (Rd 6 2023)
Jonsson (Rd 5 2022)

Both Kemp and Rodrigue face the possibility of being cut loose as they're both RFAs and need qualifying offers. Of the 7 prospects, the last three are all goalies.

Comparing quickly to the other finalists, the Panthers have just 4 roster players that they drafted (Barkov, Lundell, Samoskevich & Ekblad) but 11 minor leaguers (and their farm team was just in the AHL Finals). Dallas has 11 home-grown players on their roster and 12 more in the system. And Carolina has 5 roster players and a whopping 18 in the system.

The Oilers have traded several picks over the last few years but so have the other teams at the top of the league. So what gives? Has our drafting just been that bad? There's definitely a good argument that that's the case. In the Ken Holland era, the Oilers made 25 selections at the draft. Of those, just Petrov, Akey, Jonsson & Day remain in the system, none of whom are yet to play an NHL game. We'd have rights on a couple of others but it's looking bleak. Only 4 of the 25 have played in the NHL. That includes Broberg and Holloway of course, who managed 69 and 89 games for the Oilers before the offer sheets. Then there's Matej Blumel who landed in Dallas eventually and has managed to get 13 games in the show over the last 3 seasons, and then Raph Lavoie, who had 7 games for the Oilers before getting claimed by Vegas last year and playing another 9. And that's it!

There were some changes to the scouting department after Holland was cleared out last year, but there's a pretty good argument that there should be no one left from that reign of error. Comparatively, Chiarelli had 27 draft picks in his time with the Oilers and of those 18 played NHL games. Now to be fair, Chia had more high picks and less top picks traded, but at the same time several depth picks have well over 100 NHL games.

That skew means that there's just not a lot of prospects pushing to make the roster here, so puts a lot more pressure on the team to recruit through free agency in Europe and college. And hopefully they can find a couple of gems in the four picks this week.

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846937 is a reply to message #846933 ]	Wed, 25 June 2025 15:10

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Recent first rounders

2017 Yamamoto
2018 Bouchard (yay)
2019 Broberg
2020 Holloway
2021 Bourgault
2022 Schaefer
2023
2024 Sam O'Reilly

Had they kept Broberg and Holloway your list would look a lot better. Bourgault and Schaefer are probably mistakes, but it's easy to blame covid for those two.

Second rounders

2017
2018 McLoed & Olivier Rodrigue
2019 Lavoie
2020
2021
2022
2023 Beau Akey
2024 Eemil Vinni

Thirds

2017 Skinner & Samorukov
2018
2019 Iiya Konovalov
2020
2021 Luca Munzenberger
2022
2023
2024

Everything after round 4 has just been a waste of time for the Oilers with the exception of Michael Kesselring (2018 6th).

Looks like the Oilers are not so good and draft and development and have believed they were close to winning since the 2020 draft which is fine because the draft is kind of a waste of time for them. That's my narrative anyway.

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846939 is a reply to message #846937 ]	Wed, 25 June 2025 15:21

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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 14:10

So what I'm hearing is.. there's a chance.. icon_nod

Wow did they trade a lot of 2nd and 3rds..

Actually the most recent late round picks of Clattenburg and Nichol seem to have some hope.. and the Russian Berezkin.. all late rounds..

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846941 is a reply to message #846939 ]	Wed, 25 June 2025 15:26

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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 15:21

So what I'm hearing is.. there's a chance.. icon_nod

Wow did they trade a lot of 2nd and 3rds..

Actually the most recent late round picks of Clattenburg and Nichol seem to have some hope.. and the Russian Berezkin.. all late rounds..

I do think Holland's most useful attribute was understanding the value of draft picks. 1st rounders are good to have a keep. The rest are pretty unimportant, especially once a team starts making the playoffs and the 2nd rounder drops into the late 40.

I don't believe in late round pick hype until I see it.

[Updated on: Wed, 25 June 2025 15:30]

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846950 is a reply to message #846941 ]	Thu, 26 June 2025 08:55

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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 15:26

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 15:21

So what I'm hearing is.. there's a chance.. icon_nod

Wow did they trade a lot of 2nd and 3rds..

Actually the most recent late round picks of Clattenburg and Nichol seem to have some hope.. and the Russian Berezkin.. all late rounds..

It's really hard to buy in to some of the buzz around depth pick prospects, because the organization always brags up even the smallest modicum of success around those players through the friendly media guys. They love to suggest that the cupboards are full, even if they're not. It is interesting that the team has moved on from so many of their picks. I think the make-up of the farm team is atypical now. Usually there would be more of the guys we've selected in there so there's definitely been some level of failure to pick well in the Holland era. It's kind of ironic, since there was a certain mythology built up around Holland that he liked to build through the draft.

On Schaeffer, to be fair to the team, it was a 32nd overall pick, so almost a second rounder. We used it as part of the trade for Ekholm, and while you could quibble over whether a recent first round pick, another first round pick and a fourth rounder is an overpayment, that's still probably his best trade as the Oilers GM.

We are definitely in win-now mode, so the importance of the players picked Friday and Saturday is minimal compared to who we can add to the roster for this coming season, no matter how they're acquired. It would be good to see a few picked who are at least good enough to warrant a first contract with the team when their junior days are done.

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846940 is a reply to message #846859 ]	Wed, 25 June 2025 15:25

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Might be a chance of seeing the Klim Reaper

Might not get qualified by SJ

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846942 is a reply to message #846940 ]	Wed, 25 June 2025 15:38

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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 15:25

Might be a chance of seeing the Klim Reaper

Might not get qualified by SJ

Not always a fan of clamouring for ex-Oilers, but there seemed to be a nice fit here (unlike say, Arvidsson, who will like excel elsewhere next year but just didn't click here... and was probably misused). A fourth line of Podkolzin-Janmark-Kostin could be cheap and effective.

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846943 is a reply to message #846942 ]	Wed, 25 June 2025 15:46

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mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 14:38

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 15:25

Might be a chance of seeing the Klim Reaper

Might not get qualified by SJ

I seem to remember Kostin PK'ing as well.. or was I mistaken?

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846952 is a reply to message #846943 ]	Thu, 26 June 2025 09:04

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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 15:46

mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 14:38

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 15:25

Might be a chance of seeing the Klim Reaper

Might not get qualified by SJ

I seem to remember Kostin PK'ing as well.. or was I mistaken?

I don't believe he did kill many penalties. In 2022-23, he averaged just 10:03 per game. Only Holloway & Shore saw less TOI among players that saw any significant action. In the playoffs that year, he played just 7:33 - the least of any forward.

Kostin's rep in Edmonton is probably better served by not looking to return here. It's unlikely he'll be able to shoot at 19.6% like he did that season, and his advanced stats were always ugly. He got a great contract off a career year here, but he's never lived up to that contract. If we were to sign him, he's a bubble player at best and should be on a league minimum contract - likely a two-way deal.

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846971 is a reply to message #846859 ]	Fri, 27 June 2025 01:11

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.. one rumour from a guy on X.. Nurse for Jarry .. icon_eek

https://x.com/billystefnhl/status/1938448263457464405?s=42

Probably BS.. but

coupled with these hints per TL (fwiw) ;

"expect the unexpected.."
"Stan is a man with a plan .."
"all options are on the table don't go far.."

Maybe not Nurse related.. but could be some major tremors to hitting the Oilsphere

[Updated on: Fri, 27 June 2025 01:16]

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846973 is a reply to message #846971 ]	Fri, 27 June 2025 05:19

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Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 27 June 2025 04:41

.. one rumour from a guy on X.. Nurse for Jarry .. icon_eek

Here's my guess based upon the tea leaves I've read so far, assuming there is something to this one. And, when you consider Dubas' love for his former Soo Greyhounds, it seems plausible.

Nurse for Jarry and the 1st rounder the Pens just acquired from the Rangers.

After that the D looks like...
Ek-Bouchard
Kulak-Walman
Free Agent Signing-Emberson/Stetcher

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846976 is a reply to message #846973 ]	Fri, 27 June 2025 07:38

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Dante Fabbro might be the perfect fit if they can move out Nurse.

Ekholm - Bouchard
Walmart - Fabbro
Kulak - Stetcher
Emberson

If I recall, I think Fabbro had great underlying numbers, and once he moved out of Nashville into a Top-4 role, started putting up decent offensive numbers too.
As a RHD, he could he a perfect compliment to Walman on that second pairing, moreso than say, Klingberg.

He might be my top External target in free agency.

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847092 is a reply to message #846976 ]	Mon, 30 June 2025 12:49

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mightyreasoner wrote on Fri, 27 June 2025 07:38

Well, one of the guys I wanted is off the board. Fabbro re-signing with Columbus. Four year, just over $4M per. Decent job by the Jackets.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/columbus-blue-jackets-re-sign-dante-f abbro-to-four-year-16-5-million-deal-1.2328924

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846975 is a reply to message #846971 ]	Fri, 27 June 2025 06:19

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Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 27 June 2025 04:11

.. one rumour from a guy on X.. Nurse for Jarry .. icon_eek

Can't imagine we could get rid of him without huge retention or big sweeteners, but the possibility sure is exciting.

Still a few days to go, but the list of still unsigned UFA dmen does look pretty interesting: Any of Ekblad, Provorov, Gavrikov and Lindgren could be interesting.

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eRe: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846977 is a reply to message #846859 ]	Fri, 27 June 2025 08:36

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TSN reporting the Frederic signing as official. 3.85x8.

Let's hope that the cap keeps going up or that Frederic discovers some magic hands or something. That's a long deal for a bottom six player.

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Re: eRe: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846986 is a reply to message #846977 ]	Fri, 27 June 2025 11:57

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Hibernia wrote on Fri, 27 June 2025 07:36

TSN reporting the Frederic signing as official. 3.85x8.

Let's hope that the cap keeps going up or that Frederic discovers some magic hands or something. That's a long deal for a bottom six player.

I'm just gonna say it.... Stan Bowman is a moron.

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Re: eRe: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #846991 is a reply to message #846986 ]	Fri, 27 June 2025 12:30

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nullterm wrote on Fri, 27 June 2025 10:57

Hibernia wrote on Fri, 27 June 2025 07:36

TSN reporting the Frederic signing as official. 3.85x8.

I'm just gonna say it.... Stan Bowman is a moron.

Yep

BOAT. ANCHOR.

Doesn't match Broberg or Holloway.. then sells the farm for Ryan Whitney 2.0 .. especially since the new CBA won't allow LTIR in playoffs anymore.

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Re: eRe: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847004 is a reply to message #846986 ]	Fri, 27 June 2025 13:27

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nullterm wrote on Fri, 27 June 2025 14:57

Hibernia wrote on Fri, 27 June 2025 07:36

TSN reporting the Frederic signing as official. 3.85x8.

Let's hope that the cap keeps going up or that Frederic discovers some magic hands or something. That's a long deal for a bottom six player.

I'm just gonna say it.... Stan Bowman is a moron.

Only thing I can think of is he didn’t like people saying he overpaid for this rental, so he decided to not only double down, he went all in. One of the craziest contracts I can recall.

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Re: eRe: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847005 is a reply to message #847004 ]	Fri, 27 June 2025 13:32

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Mike wrote on Fri, 27 June 2025 12:27

Only thing I can think of is he didn’t like people saying he overpaid for this rental, so he decided to not only double down, he went all in. One of the craziest contracts I can recall.

Ego always has a tendency to interfere with the logic process.

Even Kenny was smart enough to pass on re-signing the bust that was Andreas Athanasiou

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Re: eRe: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847007 is a reply to message #847004 ]	Fri, 27 June 2025 13:57

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Mike wrote on Fri, 27 June 2025 13:27

nullterm wrote on Fri, 27 June 2025 14:57

Hibernia wrote on Fri, 27 June 2025 07:36

TSN reporting the Frederic signing as official. 3.85x8.

Let's hope that the cap keeps going up or that Frederic discovers some magic hands or something. That's a long deal for a bottom six player.

I'm just gonna say it.... Stan Bowman is a moron.

Only thing I can think of is he didn’t like people saying he overpaid for this rental, so he decided to not only double down, he went all in. One of the craziest contracts I can recall.

Oh yeah - this reeks of the Oilers feeling that they might look dumb with that trade, giving up significant assets for a broken player who added little through the playoffs. If he were suddenly to be a 40-point guy next year then it doesn't look as awful.

Of course, that's a big assumption to make on his future production...

It's funny but one of Ken Holland's best moves was NOT qualifying Athanasiou after the Oilers spent two second round picks to acquire him prior to COVID. He was making $3MM so would have needed a similar figure in order to keep his rights. After he left, he had two one-year deals in LA for $1.2MM and 2.7MM respectively and two injury plagued seasons where he only played 75 games total. Then Chicago gave him a $3MM deal and he bounced back to a 40-point player in his only full season since...and then got $4.5MM for two years in which he played only 36 games scoring 10 points.

If Holland had tried to save face by giving him, say, 3MMx3 back then, we would have regretted that more than the original trade.

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Re: eRe: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847082 is a reply to message #847007 ]	Mon, 30 June 2025 09:04

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but think of that sweet LTIR we could have had!

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Re: eRe: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847083 is a reply to message #847082 ]	Mon, 30 June 2025 09:23

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Kapanen re-signed 1 yr 1.3m.
Noah Philp also re-signed 1 yr 775k.

Happy with both of those.

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Re: eRe: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847091 is a reply to message #847083 ]	Mon, 30 June 2025 12:46

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Mon, 30 June 2025 08:23

Kapanen re-signed 1 yr 1.3m.
Noah Philp also re-signed 1 yr 775k.

Happy with both of those.

I think Kapanen could regress to the guy everyone passed on during his career.. but for one year he fills a NHL roster slot and he can be buried for only a $75K kap hit... so relatively low risk

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Re: eRe: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847024 is a reply to message #846986 ]	Fri, 27 June 2025 17:05

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nullterm wrote on Fri, 27 June 2025 11:57

I'm just gonna say it.... Stan Bowman is a moron.

100% Big time moron.

I'm having trouble removing the similarity of stupidity between Bowman and Chiarelli.

The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

Generally Disappointed.

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847022 is a reply to message #846859 ]	Fri, 27 June 2025 15:35

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Guys I would be happy to move out..

Overall we need more speed, and energy/stamina these guys lack it.
Arvidsson.. - $4.0 M (too slow, weak on pucks, short.. both in stature and reach)

Henrique.. - $3.0 M (too slow now, not that strong on puck possession or clearing D-zone)

Total savings $7M

PK needs forwards that are "quick" (as opposed to "fast") .. quick to block passes, quick into shooting lanes, quick to get in front of shots.. and quick to get to loose pucks and clear.. we lost some of that on the PK with Mcleod and Foogle

We also need more forwards that can carry the puck up and gain the O-zone .. I'd argue McLeod was the 2nd best at that on the Oilers.. we lost that.. same on the fore check

Arvi for sure.. Henrique if you can get a speedier, and quicker, replacement.. and of course cheaper

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847028 is a reply to message #846859 ]	Fri, 27 June 2025 17:36

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Bob pours water on any Nurse rumours.. (and by extension TL)

Also.. rumour is Crosby possible to go elsewhere.. 8.7M for one more year.. man.. that would be so sweet.. :(

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847074 is a reply to message #846859 ]	Sun, 29 June 2025 12:18

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Jim Matheson saying lots of teams asking about Nuge. Why can’t they ask about Nurse? :)

Imagine asking Nuge to waive his NMC before Nurse? Hehe.

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847075 is a reply to message #846859 ]	Sun, 29 June 2025 12:31

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Oilers looking for new assistant coach.. Gully got the Dallas job..

Congrats Gully! 👍🏻

and.. ..Dallas SUCKS ! 😊

oh.. and Calgary gets a 3rd rounder for compensation

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847088 is a reply to message #846859 ]	Mon, 30 June 2025 11:14

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Matty can still bring the heat

Jim Matheson @jimmathesonnhl
If I’m Oilers i want to bring in Patrick Kane for one year at $4m to play RW with Draisaitl. Kane and Wings again? Or another shi t at a Cup?

Jim Matheson @jimmathesonnhl
spell check on shift not a swear.

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guess you folks have never made spelling mistake

Had to add a space into Matty's typo to post here for ppl to enjoy. I think he meant shot too, not "shift"? :)

The swear, plus wanting to give Kane 4M is double classic Matty. Granted Kane put up points again last season, but pretty sure he did it playing zero defense. Not sure that's the kind of guy that gets us over the hump right now. His ES scoring has dropped off too, more and more dependent on the PP. His primary points/60 at even strength dropped from 2.04 to exactly 1.00 last season. Total points/60 ES 2.51 to 1.61. 1.61 was a career low for him.

[Updated on: Mon, 30 June 2025 11:24]

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847089 is a reply to message #847088 ]	Mon, 30 June 2025 11:28

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 30 June 2025 13:14

If Perry leaves I think Kane is a good replacement and is an upgrade overall.

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847090 is a reply to message #847089 ]	Mon, 30 June 2025 11:59

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oilfan94 wrote on Mon, 30 June 2025 11:28

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 30 June 2025 13:14

If Perry leaves I think Kane is a good replacement and is an upgrade overall.

If we are looking to add a 1-dimensional player for scoring depth. I probably would much rather take Kane than these Boeser rumors going around. Unlikely Knob would bury Kane like he did Skinner too.

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847093 is a reply to message #846859 ]	Mon, 30 June 2025 12:55

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Supposed to be a Seller's market.. so maybe Oilers get something for them.. and zero cap retention.. 🤞🏻 .. that's +7M

Rumours are Boeser.. he's a RHS.. great sniper.. would be deadly on the Right side on the PP.. but can't remember his skating.. didn't see a lot of Vancouver games.. but Marchand would be OK as well.. especially on the PK.. where we need a lot of help.

Sounds like Marner is going to Vegas.. after watching him in the 4 Nations.. I'm less impressed..

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The #LetsGoOilers are working on finalizing two trades.
Adam Henrique & Victor Arvidsson by the end of today.

They plan on making announcement on the Evan Bouchard contract extension as well today.

Busy 24 hours for the @EdmontonOilers organization.

They want as much cap space for tomorrow as they possible can get according to sources close to the situation.

We believe others in the city had this information as well.

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847098 is a reply to message #846859 ]	Mon, 30 June 2025 14:27

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Looks like an unpopular opinion, but for all the crap talking about Bowman's signing of Frederic, have you noticed some of the money being thrown around?

5.35M x 6 for Bahl.
4.125M x 4 for Fabbro
5.5M x 4 for Hague (career high 17 points)

After tomorrow I think we may need to revisit contract values. Frederic isn’t that overpaid unless you judge but the small sample size of last season. Term is bananas, but if Hague is worth 5.5M x4 years …. I dunno. It’s not that bad and the no move ends early enough in the deal to still move the guy if it falls apart.

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847100 is a reply to message #846859 ]	Mon, 30 June 2025 14:40

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Bouch 4 x 10.5M seems to be finalized

TSN @TSN_Sports

BREAKING: The Oilers have signed Evan Bouchard to a 4-year, $10.5M AAV contract extension, per
@reporterchris

No discount here. Wonder what he wanted to >4 years. Think we have ~3M of cap space left. Need to start moving some bums.

Got a big contrast here between the cup champs and us. Got a more balanced team where no 2 or 3 guys can really claim they carried the group solo for extended periods, and you end up with a bunch of guys that want to keep winning and everyone is playing the same way. With a GM that can make a case to guys that they can keep winning with a little sacrifice.

Then you have our team where 2-3 guys need to blow the doors off for the team to ever have any shot, that all want to be paid appropriately for being the best or near the best. And you have crap management for years that surrounds them with plugs, many overpaid for what they bring. Some even paid like they are superstars but they are not even close to being one.

The issues is the first case is impossible for us to achieve because we never had good management, so thank goodness for draft/lottery luck. We all know why we keep failing though. Oh well!! On to next season, where we go back to hoping those few top guys can overcome trash management again. Looking pretty likely we have to play Florida in the finals once again, if we make it.

[Updated on: Mon, 30 June 2025 14:50]

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Re: 2025 Oiler Off-Season Transactions [message #847102 is a reply to message #847100 ]	Mon, 30 June 2025 15:26

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 30 June 2025 13:40

Don’t like the number. But atleast it’s only four years…?

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