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Incredible trade. No salary retention. Love to see it.


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Making pesos available for Bouchard’s raise?

Evander will love a nice stable dressing that Vancouver can offer.



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Kind of crazy how little value players have at certain times of the year. Kane is a real NHL player making not that much money (compared to, say, Frederic). The Canucks got him and his expiring contract for nothing.

My worry is the divisional rival thing. Canucks are a year removed from winning the division and probably have a better goalie.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 11:39

Kind of crazy how little value players have at certain times of the year. Kane is a real NHL player making not that much money (compared to, say, Frederic). The Canucks got him and his expiring contract for nothing.

My worry is the divisional rival thing. Canucks are a year removed from winning the division and probably have a better goalie.


Very true. If the Canucks are sellers at the deadline I bet they get at least a 2nd rounder for him at the deadline. Maybe a 1st if he is having a good season.

There is a lot to like about Kane's game and he was a difference maker in the playoffs. Unfortunately, that was a bad difference in the Stanley Cup finals where I think he was given less leeway due to his reputation (even though players with equally bad reputations on the other end of the ice seemed to get a pass). It hurts to lose a legit NHL player, but he didn't even play during the season last year and we seemed to get by ok.

Kane is from Vancouver and played his junior hockey there, so I can't imagine he is sad about this trade. Maybe this is encouragement for him to play along with the current investigation the NHL Has on the Oilers.

We'll see how he gets along with Pettersson there.



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inverno76 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 09:29

Making pesos available for Bouchard’s raise?

Evander will love a nice stable dressing that Vancouver can offer.


Haha, I forgot the Canucks and their volatile dressing room. Kane will definitely help :)

However, Oilers luck/Former Oiler laws probably mean he completely cleans up his act and ends up with an A on his jersey, along with a 40 goal season.

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 09:46

inverno76 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 09:29

Making pesos available for Bouchard’s raise?

Evander will love a nice stable dressing that Vancouver can offer.


Haha, I forgot the Canucks and their volatile dressing room. Kane will definitely help :)


Honourary Hughes brother!

And if you had any doubts that this was the right move, David Staples hates it.

Kane has a decent shot and can score some goals but he's a terrible passer, awful at breakouts and a bad teammate who'll pout even in the Stanley Cup Finals or when the team is on record-tying win streak.

He had a tremendous playoffs the first year he was in Edmonton but in the three post-seasons since, in 53 games he's had only 25 points while wracking up 127 PIMs. With Nuge hurt and Hyman out, the team needed him to step up in the Finals, but he went 1-0-1 in the six games with 32 PIMs.

And he's still a guy who beat up a girl in a hotel room in Buffalo. I don't think there should be a lot of forgiveness for beating up women.

Happy to see him go, and even happier that the Oilers were able to do it without a Holland/Kassian-style deal where we end up paying to get rid of him.



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Adam wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 09:54

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 09:46

inverno76 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 09:29

Making pesos available for Bouchard’s raise?

Evander will love a nice stable dressing that Vancouver can offer.


Haha, I forgot the Canucks and their volatile dressing room. Kane will definitely help :)


Honourary Hughes brother!

And if you had any doubts that this was the right move, David Staples hates it.

Kane has a decent shot and can score some goals but he's a terrible passer, awful at breakouts and a bad teammate who'll pout even in the Stanley Cup Finals or when the team is on record-tying win streak.

He had a tremendous playoffs the first year he was in Edmonton but in the three post-seasons since, in 53 games he's had only 25 points while wracking up 127 PIMs. With Nuge hurt and Hyman out, the team needed him to step up in the Finals, but he went 1-0-1 in the six games with 32 PIMs.

And he's still a guy who beat up a girl in a hotel room in Buffalo. I don't think there should be a lot of forgiveness for beating up women.

Happy to see him go, and even happier that the Oilers were able to do it without a Holland/Kassian-style deal where we end up paying to get rid of him.

How do you know what happened in a hotel room in Buffalo? Where you there?

Sounds pretty racist.



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Jay wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 11:00

Adam wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 09:54

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 09:46

inverno76 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 09:29

Making pesos available for Bouchard’s raise?

Evander will love a nice stable dressing that Vancouver can offer.


Haha, I forgot the Canucks and their volatile dressing room. Kane will definitely help :)


Honourary Hughes brother!

And if you had any doubts that this was the right move, David Staples hates it.

Kane has a decent shot and can score some goals but he's a terrible passer, awful at breakouts and a bad teammate who'll pout even in the Stanley Cup Finals or when the team is on record-tying win streak.

He had a tremendous playoffs the first year he was in Edmonton but in the three post-seasons since, in 53 games he's had only 25 points while wracking up 127 PIMs. With Nuge hurt and Hyman out, the team needed him to step up in the Finals, but he went 1-0-1 in the six games with 32 PIMs.

And he's still a guy who beat up a girl in a hotel room in Buffalo. I don't think there should be a lot of forgiveness for beating up women.

Happy to see him go, and even happier that the Oilers were able to do it without a Holland/Kassian-style deal where we end up paying to get rid of him.

How do you know what happened in a hotel room in Buffalo? Where you there?

Sounds pretty racist.


Have you been saving that one up?

The girl was injured so badly she needed surgery. She sued Kane for damages. That was settled shortly after he signed his big contract with the Oilers. I think there's enough evidence that something bad went down.



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Well we definitely need to replace his toughness now.
We are too soft, we need strong forechecking like Vancouver and Florida.



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No Demko in return, but a solid trade.

Would have been even better if they didn't sign Frederic and we had the full $5M cleared instead of approximately $1.1M. I'm assuming they are viewing Frederic as the Kane replacement.

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Damn, just realized most of his cap is probably going to Frederic Smoker


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Awful trade and to a division rival.

Oh well now to start looking for a player exactly like Evander Kane for the playoffs next year.



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I don't get this. A 4th? For a perennial 20+ goal scoring power forward?

We just paid a 2nd and a 4th and whatever else for 1 goal in 23 lackluster Trent Frederic games?!?!?!

It amazes me how as buyers we seem to continually pay absolute top dollar on any contract we sign and any trade, yet seem to always sell for pennies on the dollar.

I don't have any scenario where Kane > Frederic is not true. Even with the extra million in cap hit. I mean not even close. I'm not a Kane fan boy, but this is dumb.



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Mike wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 11:25

I don't get this. A 4th? For a perennial 20+ goal scoring power forward?

We just paid a 2nd and a 4th and whatever else for 1 goal in 23 lackluster Trent Frederic games?!?!?!

It amazes me how as buyers we seem to continually pay absolute top dollar on any contract we sign and any trade, yet seem to always sell for pennies on the dollar.

I don't have any scenario where Kane > Frederic is not true. Even with the extra million in cap hit. I mean not even close. I'm not a Kane fan boy, but this is dumb.

Cap Space is a valuable asset before July 1. Simple as. Think of what they can do with the cap increasing AND the extra 5 million dollars.



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 08:47

Damn, just realized most of his cap is probably going to Frederic Smoker


Yep

Oilers are weaker already in one trade. Fred is going to eat most of his cap.. and not fill anything Kane does as a player..

Oilers are already in the market for a Kane type player..

Fred will be bought out in 3 years

So starts the Bowman Darkness.


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Frederic's cap hit is only going up ~1.5 million. It's not as absurd as we think. Shipping Kane out for nothing does free up some space the Oilers will desperately need soon.


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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 12:59

Frederic's cap hit is only going up ~1.5 million. It's not as absurd as we think. Shipping Kane out for nothing does free up some space the Oilers will desperately need soon.


If it was a 2 year deal, would be less mad, but still mad. 8 years, max rage



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 13:05

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 12:59

Frederic's cap hit is only going up ~1.5 million. It's not as absurd as we think. Shipping Kane out for nothing does free up some space the Oilers will desperately need soon.


If it was a 2 year deal, would be less mad, but still mad. 8 years, max rage

I don't have a rationalization for that part of it. Do the Oilers think he's a 5 million dollar player?

Maybe I do have a rationalization.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 13:06

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 13:05

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 12:59

Frederic's cap hit is only going up ~1.5 million. It's not as absurd as we think. Shipping Kane out for nothing does free up some space the Oilers will desperately need soon.


If it was a 2 year deal, would be less mad, but still mad. 8 years, max rage

I don't have a rationalization for that part of it. Do the Oilers think he's a 5 million dollar player?

Maybe I do have a rationalization.


I guess that's maybe it. They figure they were paying $5.125MM for Kane each year, so if he's the Kane replacement and only $3.85MM it's a bargain. I think that's a weak rationalization and that it's bonkers to give any depth player that much term, but it is what it is.

The 27-year old UFAs do always tend to do pretty well - GMs just see them as having a huge amount of career in front of them still. I hope he's got at least 6 or 7 good years left!

The only other thing I can think of there is that if the team believed he would get $5MM in the open market, then giving term helps there and really the near-term years are more important than the later years when they feel A) the window may have closed, B) the cap may have gone up, C) they can deal with that problem at that point and D) it's probably a different GM's problem anyhow.



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 12:05

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 12:59

Frederic's cap hit is only going up ~1.5 million. It's not as absurd as we think. Shipping Kane out for nothing does free up some space the Oilers will desperately need soon.


If it was a 2 year deal, would be less mad, but still mad. 8 years, max rage


With that ankle of his I'm smelling a Ryan Whitney 2.0 .. maybe he can eventually host a podcast.. do a blog..

At least with Kane roaming the wings no one was coming near Leon or McDavid.. no Mikey Anderson slew foots.. now who do they have.. Nurse? .. nobody is intimidated by D. Nurse... Oil have no one else.. must be goin' with the old "team toughness" routine.. sure go tell yourself that .. FAAFO you're wrong



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 14:59

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 12:05

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 12:59

Frederic's cap hit is only going up ~1.5 million. It's not as absurd as we think. Shipping Kane out for nothing does free up some space the Oilers will desperately need soon.


If it was a 2 year deal, would be less mad, but still mad. 8 years, max rage


With that ankle of his I'm smelling a Ryan Whitney 2.0 .. maybe he can eventually host a podcast.. do a blog..

At least with Kane roaming the wings no one was coming near Leon or McDavid.. no Mikey Anderson slew foots.. now who do they have.. Nurse? .. nobody is intimidated by D. Nurse... Oil have no one else.. must be goin' with the old "team toughness" routine.. sure go tell yourself that .. FAAFO you're wrong



This is tough, cause I do think Bowman is thinking Frederic will be that "toughness". And we may pay out the nose for it. Really wish we had more understanding of this ankle injury.

It's possible he comes back 100% next year, but then I still struggle to understand what past performance we are going on that justifies this guy on a long term deal. I see 1 lucky year as a 13 min guy on a powerhouse team where the lower guys could get a lot of easy ice time and leeway because the team was so top loaded. Just a crazy gamble if we sign him for 3+ years.

I wish so much that Nurse could add some intimidation to his game. Need to be able to anticipate and get ahead of the play to land big hits though. Reading the play and anticipating where players will go is just not his strength at all. Think it's just gonna be routine hits on guys already set protecting a puck on the boards for the rest of Darnell's career.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 14:59

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 12:05

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 12:59

Frederic's cap hit is only going up ~1.5 million. It's not as absurd as we think. Shipping Kane out for nothing does free up some space the Oilers will desperately need soon.


If it was a 2 year deal, would be less mad, but still mad. 8 years, max rage


With that ankle of his I'm smelling a Ryan Whitney 2.0 .. maybe he can eventually host a podcast.. do a blog..

At least with Kane roaming the wings no one was coming near Leon or McDavid.. no Mikey Anderson slew foots.. now who do they have.. Nurse? .. nobody is intimidated by D. Nurse... Oil have no one else.. must be goin' with the old "team toughness" routine.. sure go tell yourself that .. FAAFO you're wrong



Kane was on the team for the Mikey Anderson slewfoots.

And all the other abuse those guys took the last couple of years. Remember - Draisaitl's been dinged up pretty badly in a couple of the runs. Kane's retribution on people is often ineffective. He'll take the penalties, but what does he accomplish? Look at his game ejections in the final. The first he gives a prone Panthers' player a little slap on the face with his stick. It got considered for a major because of its obviousness, but he didn't hurt the player at all. Got a penalty, got thrown out, but did NOTHING.

His second ejection was similar. He slashes at Tkachuk, but its the lightest of swings and aimed at a very padded location. He postures a lot, but he rarely takes a pound of flesh, even when he's getting penalized. Total paper tiger.

He's been a phantom both years in the Finals and even in the semis. Last year he had just one point in the last two rounds, before he sat for the last few games with his injuries. This year he had one 3 assist performance against Dallas, but otherwise only two points in those two rounds.

And the worst thing is the selfishness. They were talking about it on Spittin' Chiclets during the Finals that he was mopey about getting moved down the lineup. Marchand was playing 3rd line for Florida and starring while Kane was just grouchy about his lot in life, rather than doing anything to prove he should be higher up. That's just not a player we're going to miss.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 12:11

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 08:47

Damn, just realized most of his cap is probably going to Frederic Smoker


Yep

Oilers are weaker already in one trade. Fred is going to eat most of his cap.. and not fill anything Kane does as a player..

Oilers are already in the market for a Kane type player..

Fred will be bought out in 3 years

So starts the Bowman Darkness.


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I don't hate having Frederic in the short term (although I disagree with the term and the dollars being paid to him). When not playing on a wonky ankle, he does hit and fight and can put up a little bit of offence. He's also only 27 compared to Kane who'll be 34 this summer.

I don't think we lose much between the two and Frederic is $1.3MM cheaper, seven years younger, and from everything I've heard is good in the dressing room, instead of Kane's constant pouting and brooding.

Also, even banged up, Frederic wasn't nearly as hopeless at advancing the puck out of our zone. Kane is really poor at fielding pucks off the boards on the ring around play, and between that and his atrocious passing, he regularly turned the puck over in our own zone on in transition. He's also never been super dedicated to playing defence. Add to that all the stupid penalties, and then his reputational penalties on top of that and trading him is straight up addition by subtraction.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 12:11

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 08:47

Damn, just realized most of his cap is probably going to Frederic Smoker


Yep

Oilers are weaker already in one trade. Fred is going to eat most of his cap.. and not fill anything Kane does as a player..

Oilers are already in the market for a Kane type player..

Fred will be bought out in 3 years

So starts the Bowman Darkness.


Note:
... looking forward to the first time Oilers play Canucks and Kane turns Fred into crumpled mess.. then taunts the Oil bench.. FAAFO






Recency bias at its finest. Frederic at that price will not hurt the club. It’s up to the player to prove he can exceed the deal, and he will likely return to the .5 ppg physical 5v5 player before his injury. What we saw was a shell of the player we expected.

Hyman deal had the same sentiment. Heck, I think the Kane extension was also received poorly. Let’s let this one play out. Frederic is was a good physical player until he got hurt and the injury won’t linger for his career. Zero reason to believe he won’t return to 15-20 goals and 40 points with no PP time.




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inverno76 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 14:04

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 12:11

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 08:47

Damn, just realized most of his cap is probably going to Frederic Smoker


Yep

Oilers are weaker already in one trade. Fred is going to eat most of his cap.. and not fill anything Kane does as a player..

Oilers are already in the market for a Kane type player..

Fred will be bought out in 3 years

So starts the Bowman Darkness.


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Recency bias at its finest. Frederic at that price will not hurt the club. It’s up to the player to prove he can exceed the deal, and he will likely return to the .5 ppg physical 5v5 player before his injury. What we saw was a shell of the player we expected.

Hyman deal had the same sentiment. Heck, I think the Kane extension was also received poorly. Let’s let this one play out. Frederic is was a good physical player until he got hurt and the injury won’t linger for his career. Zero reason to believe he won’t return to 15-20 goals and 40 points with no PP time.




I think we'll be extremely fortunate if he averages out as a 40 point scorer in Edmonton. The reality is that he's only had one year where he's ever reached that mark. His next highest total is 31 and even at the AHL level he only had one year where he crested 0.5 ppg. If we set our expectations at 30 points, we'll be less likely to be disappointed.

Worth noting though, after 97, 29, 93 and 18, only Perry and Brown hit 30 points this year (and both of them only just getting to that number). The year before, only Kane (44), Foegele (41) and McLeod (30) got there. In 2022-23, we didn't have anyone out of those top players who reached 30 points. If he brings physicality and 30 points, then he'll still potentially be in the top half of the forwards on our roster.



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It's hard to judge the trade without seeing what we do with the extra cap space. If it is actually the rumoured Frederic deal, then yeah, we should all be upset. If the space is used to improve the team in a meaningful way (we certainly will need functional toughness from elsewhere) then I'm ok with it.

On the flipside, Canucks fans seem miffed at the deal too, thinking a 4th was too much to give up considering no salary retention.



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Dr. Oil wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 10:55

It's hard to judge the trade without seeing what we do with the extra cap space. If it is actually the rumoured Frederic deal, then yeah, we should all be upset. If the space is used to improve the team in a meaningful way (we certainly will need functional toughness from elsewhere) then I'm ok with it.

On the flipside, Canucks fans seem miffed at the deal too, thinking a 4th was too much to give up considering no salary retention.


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I dunno about this trade.

Kane past histories and going into a volatile dressing room I get all that.

Kane could play with an edge, and Bowman puts his money behind Frederic? It puzzles me deeply. He was stapled to the bench after amassing those PIMs and rightfully so. A 4th? I wanted a player in return.

Oh and Jay, Adam's comments weren't racist. Judgmental, sure, racist? no. I would advise caution before you splay that term on the site to any user least of all Adam.




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Rocksteady wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 12:00

I dunno about this trade.

Kane past histories and going into a volatile dressing room I get all that.

Kane could play with an edge, and Bowman puts his money behind Frederic? It puzzles me deeply. He was stapled to the bench after amassing those PIMs and rightfully so. A 4th? I wanted a player in return.

Oh and Jay, Adam's comments weren't racist. Judgmental, sure, racist? no. I would advise caution before you splay that term on the site to any user least of all Adam.



Thanks for the tip.

But it was done firmly tongue in cheek specifically and only because of who the post was written by. I agree its hard to think of anything more lame in 2025 than to go around calling or implying that things or people are 'racist'/'sexist' etc.



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Jay wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 15:55

Thanks for the tip.

But it was done firmly tongue in cheek specifically and only because of who the post was written by. I agree its hard to think of anything more lame in 2025 than to go around calling or implying that things or people are 'racist'/'sexist' etc.


Sorry I missed that. I clutched my pearls a little too tightly there.. forgive the overstep! :)





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As my time with the @EdmontonOilers has now come to a close, I want to take a moment to sincerely thank the entire organization, my teammates, and the incredible community of Edmonton.

To the Oilers Ownership, front office, coaching staff, and trainers—thank you for believing in me and giving me the opportunity to be a part of such a respected and passionate franchise. Your support meant everything, and I’ll always be grateful for the chance to compete in the blue and orange.

To my teammates—thank you for the battles, the friendships, and the memories. I’ll always remember the playoff runs, the highs and lows, and the pride of going to war with a special group of guys.

To the fans—thank you for embracing me and showing unwavering support throughout my time in Edmonton. Rogers Place was always electric, and I’m proud to have played in front of such a passionate hockey city. My family and I have built some incredible relationships that will last forever.

With that said, I’m incredibly excited for the next chapter of my career as I join the
@Canucks
. It’s an honor to become part of an organization and team I grew up watching as a kid. Vancouver is a city that lives and breathes hockey, I’m looking forward to the opportunity to play in front of my hometown as I did many years ago as a Vancouver Giant.

With appreciation,
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Stupid trade.

One of the toughest guys in the league who will play top 6 minutes and Bowman trades him to one of our top hated division rivals.. dumb.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 June 2025 12:48

Stupid trade.

One of the toughest guys in the league who will play top 6 minutes and Bowman trades him to one of our top hated division rivals.. dumb.


Kane has a shelf life. I don’t hate this move at all. Kane can help a team win, but Kane has also shown he’s always going to put himself first before team.

No “I” in team, but definitely an “M” and an “E”.



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Oil Swagger Gauge needle now indicating near bottom of dial..

Sadly.. Oilers player with highest Swagger ranking now belongs to Corey Perry.. and he might leave a few days





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The proposed Fredric contract is scary and stupid, compareable to some of the worse decisions this team has ever made.

However, his and Kane's performances in the play-off's shouldn't be used as evidence against either of them in some respect. Both had been out for quite some time, Fredric less so but after an initial burst after returning from such lengthy spells out you'll always see a dip in peformance levels as they struggle to get back into the groove.

Now if Kane has said something behind the doors of the room about being moved down the line up and his actions had an effect on the team then we've done the right thing to let him go. His age and now his injury record will probably see a decline in his effectivness. Though only a 4th rounder is pure Oilers masterclass in getting less than they could have.




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 Re: Evander Kane to Canucks for 4th rd pick [message #847080 is a reply to message #846900 ]
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Welcome back to Vancouver Evander..
Vancouver earning it's rep for douche.. I remember Lucic got attacked in his home town as well.. but back then he was on another NHL team.. Evander is on their team..

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Evander Kane was jumped in Vancouver last night & he needed medical attention.

He’s doing fine which is great to hear.

A video of the incident will be released to show that Kane did nothing wrong. His friends were being held back.

Kane was minding his own business & out of nowhere he was attacked.

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