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 Rocksteady
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| NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 11:03 |
Interesting to me that Stecher only got 4 mins and change of ice time. Yeah he got burned on the 3-0 goal (after being high sticked), but I thought he looked good in the minutes he was playing. Guess Knob saw something different though as he commented after the game that Stecher was healthy and it was a coaches decision to sit him)
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I'd attribute that to Coffey, from what I have learned Knobs let Paul figure out that side of things.
The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.
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Oscargasm
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| NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 11:03 |
Interesting to me that Stecher only got 4 mins and change of ice time. Yeah he got burned on the 3-0 goal (after being high sticked), but I thought he looked good in the minutes he was playing. Guess Knob saw something different though as he commented after the game that Stecher was healthy and it was a coaches decision to sit him)
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Knob was also asked about Stetcher availability for game 5 and Knob replied he has to talk to the team doctors…
There was concussion concerns from the stick to the helmet after he turned the puck over.
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Leia
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| Mike wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 10:39 |
| Leia wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 13:24 |
if anything we perhaps should be wondering where Pickard was on the 4th goal, easily the worse of the 4 we let in. However, he saved us in OT and we won the game that's forgotten about.
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LOL - well there's a hot take if I've seen one. You're faulting Pickard on that? Wow.
He's facing down playoff goal leader Bennett, Tkachuk, and a 57 goal scorer in Reinhart while McDavid and Draisaitl are making dinner plans along the boards and Janmark is doing a pirouette to his right. He did what he could facing an outnumbered situation and Reinhart made a hell of a shot to get that in.
If that's the worst goal he lets in the rest of the way, I like our chances.
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I put the caveat if we were going to fault anyone for any of the goals it would be that one. He helped us win the game with his performance. We can blame Skinner for some horrible goals, but I wouldn't say last night was his worse, and the finger pointing that's taken place is for me a bit harsh. The rest of the team in front him were as bad if not worse.
I'm not sure if Maurice had his tongue in his cheek in his presser, when he said he thought we'd had expectional netminding from both teams through out the series so far.
Take me home, country road
to the place where I belong
to Alberta, to see the Oilers
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Kr55
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| Mike wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 10:39 |
| Leia wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 13:24 |
if anything we perhaps should be wondering where Pickard was on the 4th goal, easily the worse of the 4 we let in. However, he saved us in OT and we won the game that's forgotten about.
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LOL - well there's a hot take if I've seen one. You're faulting Pickard on that? Wow.
He's facing down playoff goal leader Bennett, Tkachuk, and a 57 goal scorer in Reinhart while McDavid and Draisaitl are making dinner plans along the boards and Janmark is doing a pirouette to his right. He did what he could facing an outnumbered situation and Reinhart made a hell of a shot to get that in.
If that's the worst goal he lets in the rest of the way, I like our chances.
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That tying goal was nuts. Pickard had to move 3 times and all 3 guys that had the puck in the sequence had a great chance to shoot when we somehow created a down low 3 on 2 situation.
And the last puck move from Tkachuk to Reinhart I think wasn't even intentional by Florida. Tkachuk was probably going to shoot that if he got a proper handle on it, but he mishandles it and somehow the puck lays up right back to Reinhart. Picks made his third move in desperation and only actually allowed a 1-2 inch opening, and Reinhart hit it.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Mike
Messages: 1875
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 17:45 |
| Mike wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 10:39 |
| Leia wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 13:24 |
if anything we perhaps should be wondering where Pickard was on the 4th goal, easily the worse of the 4 we let in. However, he saved us in OT and we won the game that's forgotten about.
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LOL - well there's a hot take if I've seen one. You're faulting Pickard on that? Wow.
He's facing down playoff goal leader Bennett, Tkachuk, and a 57 goal scorer in Reinhart while McDavid and Draisaitl are making dinner plans along the boards and Janmark is doing a pirouette to his right. He did what he could facing an outnumbered situation and Reinhart made a hell of a shot to get that in.
If that's the worst goal he lets in the rest of the way, I like our chances.
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That tying goal was nuts. Pickard had to move 3 times and all 3 guys that had the puck in the sequence had a great chance to shoot when we somehow created a down low 3 on 2 situation.
And the last puck move from Tkachuk to Reinhart I think wasn't even intentional by Florida. Tkachuk was probably going to shoot that if he got a proper handle on it, but he mishandles it and somehow the puck lays up right back to Reinhart. Picks made his third move in desperation and only actually allowed a 1-2 inch opening, and Reinhart hit it.
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Yeah - I feel like I’m sounding like a Pickard fanboy, but I actually thought he did amazingly well on that sequence. Went to watch it again several times. If I’m assigning blame, there’s 5 other guys ahead of him IMO. 6 if you count dumb luck - like you say, Tkachuk flubbing t and landing perfectly on Reinhart’s stick was a fluke.
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Kr55
Messages: 12011
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Leia wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 10:24 |
| Mike wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 09:53 |
| Rocksteady wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 12:20 |
Stu wasn't the problem. The team was.
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Why are people always saying this though? It's never Skinner's fault.
The guy at the other end does not let in every single high danger chance. He stops a crap ton of them on top of the ones he is expected to stop.
Pickard came in and stopped the ones he was expected to stop, and several high danger ones on top of that.
Skinner? I will admit he has not let in too many stinkers lately, but you just feel like any little breakdown, he's not bailing us out. We're fishing pucks out of the net.
Maybe the team plays differently in front of him. Maybe they don't. At the end of the day, the objective is to score more than the other team, and I believe Pickard gives us a much better chance to do that.
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What we could say certainly about last nights game is that Knoblauch switched his netminders for an effect on the rest of the team, in much the same way the experts thought that De Boer had with Otter, but unlike the Stars we responded and came back and won the game.
Stu made some saves and to be fair none of the goals were down right down to him, if anything we perhaps should be wondering where Pickard was on the 4th goal, easily the worse of the 4 we let in. However, he saved us in OT and we won the game that's forgotten about.
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I have some issues with Skinner goals. First one he again wasn't really making a proper effort to get a view of the play. Watch how slow he is to react to the shot and how little he moves before it. That's the low confidence version of Skinner where he's just praying stuff is gonna hit him all night. The second one, I'm not sure how a weak shot going right into his bread basket turns into a rebound that goes perfectly sideways out of his lap. Such a strange save attempt.
Third one was Stecher NUrse and the refs, not his fault. Wish he did his chip of the pass from behind the net again like he did before that own goal loss against Vegas. In this situation it would have helped him instead of chipping the puck away from his teammates. Oh well.
Think through this whole series Skinner has been in his frantic unpredictable mode of play. Not inspiring much confidence in his teammates at all. Slow reacting, flopping and falling and just hoping for luck to pull him through. Not the kind of solid goaltending we saw against Vegas and Dallas.
Think it's very reasonable to just stick with Pickard now. Especially with the game 4 Stu myth up in smoke.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Jay
Messages: 1066
Registered: January 2007
Location: Edmonton
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| Mike wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 09:53 |
| Rocksteady wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 12:20 |
Stu wasn't the problem. The team was.
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Why are people always saying this though? It's never Skinner's fault.
The guy at the other end does not let in every single high danger chance. He stops a crap ton of them on top of the ones he is expected to stop.
Pickard came in and stopped the ones he was expected to stop, and several high danger ones on top of that.
Skinner? I will admit he has not let in too many stinkers lately, but you just feel like any little breakdown, he's not bailing us out. We're fishing pucks out of the net.
Maybe the team plays differently in front of him. Maybe they don't. At the end of the day, the objective is to score more than the other team, and I believe Pickard gives us a much better chance to do that.
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It's so wild the narrative around this guy - even today all the media are starting their stories with this...like it's in the small print of their job description that they have to carry water for this guy.
Like if you have to constantly find yourself defending him and rationalising why he really isn't as bad as it seems then maybe theres a reason for that.
I was ecstatic to see him play the way he did in the middle stretch of this run but he is way too inconsistent and when he is off he is off you just know (and the team knows) that he's going to let in a goal or two at the worst possible time. We've seen it enough times that we should know by now.
Yesterday was the best possible outcome. Oilers win and Skinner will in all likelyhood need to worry about opening the bench doors the rest of the way.
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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Kr55
Messages: 12011
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Location: Edmonton
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| Jay wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 15:20 |
| Mike wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 09:53 |
| Rocksteady wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 12:20 |
Stu wasn't the problem. The team was.
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Why are people always saying this though? It's never Skinner's fault.
The guy at the other end does not let in every single high danger chance. He stops a crap ton of them on top of the ones he is expected to stop.
Pickard came in and stopped the ones he was expected to stop, and several high danger ones on top of that.
Skinner? I will admit he has not let in too many stinkers lately, but you just feel like any little breakdown, he's not bailing us out. We're fishing pucks out of the net.
Maybe the team plays differently in front of him. Maybe they don't. At the end of the day, the objective is to score more than the other team, and I believe Pickard gives us a much better chance to do that.
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It's so wild the narrative around this guy - even today all the media are starting their stories with this...like it's in the small print of their job description that they have to carry water for this guy.
Like if you have to constantly find yourself defending him and rationalising why he really isn't as bad as it seems then maybe theres a reason for that.
I was ecstatic to see him play the way he did in the middle stretch of this run but he is way too inconsistent and when he is off he is off you just know (and the team knows) that he's going to let in a goal or two at the worst possible time. We've seen it enough times that we should know by now.
Yesterday was the best possible outcome. Oilers win and Skinner will in all likelyhood need to worry about opening the bench doors the rest of the way.
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The infatuation with The Stache seems to be everlasting with the org and media.
Hope Knob realizes we are down 3-1 right now if Skinner was left in. This has not been good Stu in this series. He becomes the biggest source of doubt in the minds of our players. Can't be fun hoping that your goalie has successfully blocked out all reality to attain enough temporary confidence to look like a passable NHL goalie, and then being able to clearly see from his body language that he isn't pulling it off.
Stick with the guy that just battles and plays his arse off no matter what is going on. That's all this team needs. If we are on our game, all we need is a slightly above average goalie that can maintain confidence and not do ridiculous things in the net to win.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Jay
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Lol that's pretty funny 
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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g2k
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Too much Stuart Skinner - Game 5, talk on the airwaves and social meads for my liking today.
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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Jay
Messages: 1066
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| g2k wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 15:16 |
Too much Stuart Skinner - Game 5, talk on the airwaves and social meads for my liking today.
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zero chance. The media are doing their best for their boy but there's no way the knob could look CM97 in the eyes and tell him they are putting his legacy at risk because Stu Skinner has a cool moustache.
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Kr55
Messages: 12011
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Location: Edmonton
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Rockstar Sh$t
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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Skookum Jim
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| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 14:35 |
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That's just Beauty! LOL
Dropped that bomb from the stratosphere!
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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Mike
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 20:20 |
| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 14:35 |
Rockstar Sh$t
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That's just Beauty! LOL
Dropped that bomb from the stratosphere!
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I didn’t comment on it last night, but that was one of my favourite goals of the playoffs. More please!!!
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Oscargasm
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| Mike wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 18:16 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 20:20 |
| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 13 June 2025 14:35 |
Rockstar Sh$t
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That's just Beauty! LOL
Dropped that bomb from the stratosphere!
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I didn’t comment on it last night, but that was one of my favourite goals of the playoffs. More please!!!
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It nearly reversed my vasectomy
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OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
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Category 2 - Moderately Musty
Category 3 - Considerably Musty
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Kr55
Messages: 12011
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Sportsnet Stats @SNstats
High sticking penalties this postseason
Oilers 13
Panthers 2
That's a remarkable stat. Especially since just in last nights game alone the Panthers had 2 uncalled high sticks, one of which created a goal for them.
The game just before there were 3 or 4 missed.
I wish we had Gregory Campbell on our payroll. Could have called daddy about it.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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