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 g2k
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#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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Mike
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Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| g2k wrote on Sun, 25 May 2025 19:00 |
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I have to admit, a month ago, down 2-0 against LA, I really didn't expect we would get to see single digits, let alone 6!
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Rocksteady
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| Mike wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 11:59 |
I have to admit, a month ago, down 2-0 against LA, I really didn't expect we would get to see single digits, let alone 6!
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Same Mike... same.
Thrilled to be proven wrong and I hope the team keep showing me how many ways I was wrong.
The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.
Generally Disappointed.
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Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooo!!!
Last night was maybe not quite as dominant as the one before, but the team still seems all business. Losing Brown sucks - I expect we're going 11-7 tomorrow with Ekholm back in based on some of the news today, but as a trade-off, Hintz for Brown is definitely in the Oilers favour.
Here's hoping we get Hot Skinner for a while now. I was thinking about the 16-game winning streak version of him and thinking we only need half of that to get to the Cup...
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Greg
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Registered: October 2006
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So the big question is... Does Knoblauch have the stones to sit Nurse when Ekholm comes back? Or does Stecher get pulled because of the optics?
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Adam
Messages: 7419
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Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Greg wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 14:46 |
So the big question is... Does Knoblauch have the stones to sit Nurse when Ekholm comes back? Or does Stecher get pulled because of the optics?
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Nurse isn't sitting. Stecher or Klingberg may eventually come out but I expect that the team will go 11-7 and make sure they're easing Ekholm back in. They won't want what happened last time he came in to happen again where a re-injury leaves them short on the back-end. Brown's injury timing is great for Knoblauch because it saves him having to make any tough choice there. You know it would have killed him a little to have to put Skinner back in...(although honestly, he'd have brought back Arvidsson first).
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Kr55
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Adam wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 14:53 |
| Greg wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 14:46 |
So the big question is... Does Knoblauch have the stones to sit Nurse when Ekholm comes back? Or does Stecher get pulled because of the optics?
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Nurse isn't sitting. Stecher or Klingberg may eventually come out but I expect that the team will go 11-7 and make sure they're easing Ekholm back in. They won't want what happened last time he came in to happen again where a re-injury leaves them short on the back-end. Brown's injury timing is great for Knoblauch because it saves him having to make any tough choice there. You know it would have killed him a little to have to put Skinner back in...(although honestly, he'd have brought back Arvidsson first).
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Love the effort Stecher puts in, he's an absolute warrior for his size, but it's very likely him coming out if we stop the 11-7. It's possible that Klingberg gets in trouble against a really hard forechecking team in Florida and we see Stecher again, but against Dallas, I think skill is the priority.
Nurse is one of the top bros. Never coming out.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Skookum Jim
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 13:56 |
.. Love the effort Stecher puts in, he's an absolute warrior for his size..
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Its interesting that all of the pundits on SN have been recently highlighting Stecher's great play.. he's becoming a favourite .. same here. 👍🏻
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Skookum Jim
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| Greg wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 13:46 |
So the big question is... Does Knoblauch have the stones to sit Nurse when Ekholm comes back? Or does Stecher get pulled because of the optics?
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Ha! I thought the very same thing.. a healthy Ekholm and Stetcher would be a brickwall.. Nurse still makes the five-alarm goofs that cost goals.. and games.. Stecher is more dependable.. consistently makes the right play .. but .. you can't healthy scratch 9.25.
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Kr55
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Location: Edmonton
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Stu stealing and some nice finishing. Think we will need a better effort next game to get a stranglehold on the series.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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Leia
Messages: 476
Registered: May 2003
Location: England
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Stu winning whilst giving up a goal, a first this play-off. However, that is such a good thing.
For the first time this post season, it looked like McDavid put the team on his back for any sort of period of time. That third goal for us broke the Stars back.
Rest up, go again on Tuesday..
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inverno76
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| Leia wrote on Sun, 25 May 2025 16:10 |
Stu winning whilst giving up a goal, a first this play-off. However, that is such a good thing.
For the first time this post season, it looked like McDavid put the team on his back for any sort of period of time. That third goal for us broke the Stars back.
Rest up, go again on Tuesday..
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Kinda felt like Nuge’s game … and maybe the series so far. Not sure who this Captain Morgan lookalike is, but give me some more please.
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Leia
Messages: 476
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Location: England
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| inverno76 wrote on Sun, 25 May 2025 21:18 |
| Leia wrote on Sun, 25 May 2025 16:10 |
Stu winning whilst giving up a goal, a first this play-off. However, that is such a good thing.
For the first time this post season, it looked like McDavid put the team on his back for any sort of period of time. That third goal for us broke the Stars back.
Rest up, go again on Tuesday..
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Kinda felt like Nuge’s game … and maybe the series so far. Not sure who this Captain Morgan lookalike is, but give me some more please.
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I wouldn't disagree with you, but for a short period in the game and for the first time this post season he just popped the team on his back, got us back to where we'd been and all was right again.
If I'm being honest, McDavid and Draisaitl whilst top of the scoring charts have looked a bit subdued and laboured in the opening rounds, some part due to injuries no doubt. However, everyone has stepped up and now at the business end of the play-off's they can start to work the magic we know they can.
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NZ Oiler Fan
Messages: 1382
Registered: October 2006
Location: Summerside, PEI
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Fantastic win. That was the best game Dallas has played, and nowhere near our best, yet we still dominated on the scoresheet.
Hope Brown is OK.
Crazy to think we're doing this with our #1 D man not in the line-up, and also healthy scratching Arvidsson & Skinner
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Mike
Messages: 1692
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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I don't understand why more people aren't talking about the Petrovic hit on Brown and Bichsel's dirty crosscheck Frederick into the net, and the super dirty shove into the end boards on Nuge.
Both because they were all incredibly dangerous plays AND a grand total of 0 PIM combined on those 3 plays. Absolute garbage.
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Mike
Messages: 1692
Registered: August 2005
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I've crapped on Stu a lot (with reason) - but this was his best game yet.
IMO, he made at least 2 game saving stops. The first, though it wasn't pretty, came about midway in the first when Heiskenan slid it across to Blackwell and Skinner was able to go left to right and have the puck hit him. I was sure that was in. And the second, well that one was a lot prettier - with the score 2-1, under 2 minutes to play, Stu flashes the glove to rob Duchene of the tying goal on a breakaway.
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NZ Oiler Fan
Messages: 1382
Registered: October 2006
Location: Summerside, PEI
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| Mike wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 08:50 |
I don't understand why more people aren't talking about the Petrovic hit on Brown and Bichsel's dirty crosscheck Frederick into the net, and the super dirty shove into the end boards on Nuge.
Both because they were all incredibly dangerous plays AND a grand total of 0 PIM combined on those 3 plays. Absolute garbage.
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Don't you know that the only missed call that mattered was Kulak's high stick?
Sincerely, Pete The Bore
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Leia
Messages: 476
Registered: May 2003
Location: England
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| Mike wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 05:50 |
I don't understand why more people aren't talking about the Petrovic hit on Brown and Bichsel's dirty crosscheck Frederick into the net, and the super dirty shove into the end boards on Nuge.
Both because they were all incredibly dangerous plays AND a grand total of 0 PIM combined on those 3 plays. Absolute garbage.
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Whilst more should be made of these, lets not complain just yet, look at how the Panthers have been head hunting, complain against them if we get through, highlight the issue so the refs are watching for it. As you can bet your life that Any of our top two lines will be a target
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Mike
Messages: 1692
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| Leia wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 12:49 |
| Mike wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 05:50 |
I don't understand why more people aren't talking about the Petrovic hit on Brown and Bichsel's dirty crosscheck Frederick into the net, and the super dirty shove into the end boards on Nuge.
Both because they were all incredibly dangerous plays AND a grand total of 0 PIM combined on those 3 plays. Absolute garbage.
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Whilst more should be made of these, lets not complain just yet, look at how the Panthers have been head hunting, complain against them if we get through, highlight the issue so the refs are watching for it. As you can bet your life that Any of our top two lines will be a target
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See - I disagree. The Oilers have forever taken the high road when it comes to officiating, but it really doesn't seem to have served us well. I understand there is bias, and things probably aren't as bad as we see them through our Oilers coloured lenses, but the stats seem to confirm what we think we see. The main one that Knob touched on when replying to DeBoer's crying was how few penalties McDavid draws, that they have swung the pendulum all the way to the other side to make sure it doesn't seem as though he is getting preferential treatment. The result is the bar for McDavid to draw a penalty is higher than pretty much anyone else in the league (wasn't an official heard saying something to the effect of "if we called everything on McDavid, teams would be shorthanded the whole game"? Or something to effect?
Anyway - I think we need to shine a light on these dirty plays, and remind them 0 penalty minutes were called for those 3.
What's the worst that can happen? We get more penalties than our opponents?
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Skookum Jim
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Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Mike wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 04:50 |
I don't understand why more people aren't talking about the Petrovic hit on Brown and Bichsel's dirty crosscheck Frederick into the net, and the super dirty shove into the end boards on Nuge.
Both because they were all incredibly dangerous plays AND a grand total of 0 PIM combined on those 3 plays. Absolute garbage.
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Absolutely.
With the hit on Brown the initial point of contact was Brown's head.. no slide up from a hit to the shoulder.. right to the head.. and in the past.. being intentional or not was never a factor in a suspension (or penalty.. which was bizarrely not called) .. the fact Brown was concussed and missed the game should be a factor. Petrovic in or out of the line up will not be a factor.. but the hit should be addressed by the league.. if it were trying to be consistent. lol
The hit on Frederick was super dirty.. slammed him full speed into the goal posts.. credit to Simpson on the broadcast who said it was .. and couldn't believe it was not called and stated it in the broadcast.. (as opposed to Louie who would have said something like .. ".. the Oiler fans seem to think that might of been a penalty..)
And the hit on RNH full speed into the boards from behind was another dirty hit.. Nuge got pushed in the back which caused the crash.. replay showed it was an intentional push.
Listening to DeBoer cry about a missed over the glass call .. and the media bringing it up as something the Oiler's "got away with" was annoying considering the 3 blatant dirty calls missed that they didn't talk about... one of which caused serious injury,
Oh.. almost forgot.. what about the phantom call on Kapanen where Rantenen hit his own face with his own stick.. that was definitely one Dallas got for free.
Its actually good DeBoer is making excuses for his team .. its a good vibe.
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Kr55
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Location: Edmonton
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 12:31 |
| Mike wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 04:50 |
I don't understand why more people aren't talking about the Petrovic hit on Brown and Bichsel's dirty crosscheck Frederick into the net, and the super dirty shove into the end boards on Nuge.
Both because they were all incredibly dangerous plays AND a grand total of 0 PIM combined on those 3 plays. Absolute garbage.
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Absolutely.
With the hit on Brown the initial point of contact was Brown's head.. no slide up from a hit to the shoulder.. right to the head.. and in the past.. being intentional or not was never a factor in a suspension (or penalty.. which was bizarrely not called) .. the fact Brown was concussed and missed the game should be a factor. Petrovic in or out of the line up will not be a factor.. but the hit should be addressed by the league.. if it were trying to be consistent. lol
The hit on Frederick was super dirty.. slammed him full speed into the goal posts.. credit to Simpson on the broadcast who said it was .. and couldn't believe it was not called and stated it in the broadcast.. (as opposed to Louie who would have said something like .. ".. the Oiler fans seem to think that might of been a penalty..)
And the hit on RNH full speed into the boards from behind was another dirty hit.. Nuge got pushed in the back which caused the crash.. replay showed it was an intentional push.
Listening to DeBoer cry about a missed over the glass call .. and the media bringing it up as something the Oiler's "got away with" was annoying considering the 3 blatant dirty calls missed that they didn't talk about... one of which caused serious injury,
Oh.. almost forgot.. what about the phantom call on Kapanen where Rantenen hit his own face with his own stick.. that was definitely one Dallas got for free.
Its actually good DeBoer is making excuses for his team .. its a good vibe.
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Think Nuge was tripped to start to cause his fall. Bichel had no stick and kicks his legs out to try to block the shot, but ends up kicking Nuge's feet to take him off balance. Plus rides him into the boards after. At the least there should have been a tripping call there.
I'm also old enough to remember Walman getting a delay of game when the lineman nearest to him called that it hit the glass, because he was right there to hear it. But then the other refs got together and decided to do a memory wipe of the linesman to give us a delay of game call anyways. You could also clearly see the puck change trajectory as it hit the top of the glass in the replay, but I guess the refs forgot their glasses that day, or they get a super low res image on the ipad. Last night was just some justice for that one.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 11:49 |
.. I'm also old enough to remember Walman getting a delay of game when the lineman nearest to him called that it hit the glass, because he was right there to hear it. But then the other refs got together and decided to do a memory wipe of the linesman to give us a delay of game call anyways. You could also clearly see the puck change trajectory as it hit the top of the glass in the replay, but I guess the refs forgot their glasses that day, or they get a super low res image on the ipad. Last night was just some justice for that one.
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Yeah I remember that one.. 3 guys that didn't see it.. overruled the guy that said he did.. NHL lol
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Adam
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| NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 05:35 |
Fantastic win. That was the best game Dallas has played, and nowhere near our best, yet we still dominated on the scoresheet.
Hope Brown is OK.
Crazy to think we're doing this with our #1 D man not in the line-up, and also healthy scratching Arvidsson & Skinner
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*cough cough* number two d-man *cough*
Bouchard has been phenomenal. He's clearly the best defenceman on the team and it's not close. He's been really good in his own end too - lots of neat little takeaways and unafraid to mix it up when he has to. Suggesting that Ekholm is #1 is like suggesting that Lowe or Huddy was the top defenceman on the 1984 team.
Given his playoff production, it would be insane if he's not in the conversation for Team Canada's Olympic team now (even if the extra two weeks off would be nice for one of our top players).
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Mike
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Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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We need to be more committed to getting it over the blue line. So many periods of sustained Stars pressure all a result of not getting the puck out when they had the chance to.
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halfafrog
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For a team that is usually atrocious during matinees, I’m happy with the results. Seeing it was a matinee I just assumed they would play poorly and from the time they went 2-0 to 3-0 the shots seemed to be about 20 for them and 2 for us. Even the powerplay looked out of focus & anemic in the second.
So this is what hope feels like?
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Skookum Jim
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[Updated on: Sun, 25 May 2025 16:33]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
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NetBOG
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Kr55
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Location: Edmonton
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Hyman has been working his butt off all playoffs. Nice to see him get some rewards again. Lots of guys getting better the further we go in the playoffs. Kind of the opposite of last year as guys started to wear down after the long Canucks series.
Still 2 wins to go to finals of course.
Fun stat
Big Head Hockey @BigHeadHcky
Playoff goals since 2022:
35 goals — Zach Hyman
37 goals — Nylander, Matthews, and Marner combined
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Oscargasm
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Even this wind doesn’t hinder the trajectory of the pants I launched when that buzzer went.
Jobs not done, the Must continues!
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OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
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Category 2 - Moderately Musty
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inverno76
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I don’t want to let myself ever forget the decade plus pain we suffered, but these past two seasons are making up for it and with no reason to think the ride is ending in the next couple seasons.
Nuge is the series MVP.
McDavid just about to go supernova.
Draisaitl looking like a shutdown star.
No passengers on D.
Stu looked so much better than in his last shut out.
Big hats off to the Stars looking invisible despite winning the shot clock battle. They had a few quality chances but I only felt like we’re going a couple times. and the actual goal against was not one of them. Also expected more physicality out of Dallas. But we outhit them substantially once again.
Beating Dallas in games and hopefully wearing them down physically as well. Lots to like here.
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inverno76
Messages: 2455
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Chatting with my brother in-law this morning who is an Oilers fan, and he was complaining that we are playing boring hockey. I am completely stunned by comments like that.
Thank the eff we are finally playing a controlled game and are picking apart teams. Excitement tends to come from desperation, and I for one love this version of the Oilers. This is a Cup winning formula.
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Mike
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| inverno76 wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 13:11 |
Chatting with my brother in-law this morning who is an Oilers fan, and he was complaining that we are playing boring hockey. I am completely stunned by comments like that.
Thank the eff we are finally playing a controlled game and are picking apart teams. Excitement tends to come from desperation, and I for one love this version of the Oilers. This is a Cup winning formula.
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Yeah - give me a boring march to the Cup before a spectacular 3rd round exit any day.
If boring hockey will lead to us having more goals at the end of the game than the other team, giddy up.
But even still - there have been lots of exciting stretches. Haven't found many of the games to be boring at all.
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Skookum Jim
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so .. any word on Petrovic's interview with DOPeS over that head shot to C. Brown?
.. he types facetiously.. :)
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Adam
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| Kr55 wrote on Sun, 25 May 2025 14:10 |
Lots of talk about McDavid having 4 straight 20 point playoffs. Tried to look at D that had 3 straight 15 point seasons (3 straight at 16 now for Bouch). Only guy I found of big names was Potvin in the Islanders dynasty. Orr, Coffey, Lidstrom, Makar never did it.
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Took this one out of the Game Day Thread. Here's some fun stats:
McDavid has 139 points in 88 playoff games. That puts him 42nd all-time now, one ahead of Patrick Kane (who took 143 games to get there). There's no one else in the top-50 with under 100 playoff games. Only one close to the top-50 with so little games is Draisaitl with 129 points in 88 games (tied for 51st).
Meanwhile Bouchard now has 75 points in 67 games. Among defencemen that puts him in 32nd all-time. Orr had 92 points in 74 games, but that's the only player scoring at a higher post-season rate to Bouchard. He probably can't catch Orr for #17th all-time this year - 15 more points in what remains of the playoffs would be insane - but he could easily be in the top-25 (80 points). Most of the guys with more are in the Hall of Fame.
It's pretty crazy to see them climbing so far up the lists with lots of career left in front of all three.
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Skookum Jim
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So C. Brown is officially OUT for tomorrow.. who do you put in his place? Lost a PK'er nobody sitting in the press box suits that duty.. Arvi, J. Skinner both useless at it.. so you use someone else currently on the roster.. noticed they used a lot of 97 and 18 on the PK last game when Brown was out..
No optimum choices.
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Greg
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I think they'll do like Adam said and go with 11-7 and just use McDavid & Hyman like they have been.
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Skookum Jim
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| Greg wrote on Mon, 26 May 2025 14:24 |
I think they'll do like Adam said and go with 11-7 and just use McDavid & Hyman like they have been.
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Actually someone on LT's site mentioned a good idea.. if you needed an extra PK'er or 4th liner.. throw in Stetcher when required.. guy has wheels, smarts, and toughness.. he'd be a perfect forechecker. :)
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