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 Gator21
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Registered: February 2016
Location: Kelowna, BC
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Assuming both healthy who starts Game 1…Stu or Picks?
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Kr55
Messages: 11700
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Gator21 wrote on Wed, 14 May 2025 23:30 |
Assuming both healthy who starts Game 1…Stu or Picks?
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Gotta be Stu. If he is weak game 1, Pickard game 2,3 and then back to Mr. Game 4 no matter what :)
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Mike
Messages: 1581
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 15 May 2025 02:34 |
| Gator21 wrote on Wed, 14 May 2025 23:30 |
Assuming both healthy who starts Game 1…Stu or Picks?
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Gotta be Stu. If he is weak game 1, Pickard game 2,3 and then back to Mr. Game 4 no matter what :)
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That's what I'm thinking. Back to back shutouts has to get you the next game, but the leash will be shorter than ever. Bad game 1, if Pickard is healthy he goes game 2.
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Hibernia
Messages: 142
Registered: October 1998
Location: Sin John's
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Good news all my East Coast friends... we can finally sleep! No more late starts!  (I'm on a chat with some Oiler buds here on the Rock and the average sleep last night was about 4 hours.)
What happened to all of my messages? lol (I guess it's been awhile) BlueSky: StefBarnes
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NZ Oiler Fan
Messages: 1354
Registered: October 2006
Location: Summerside, PEI
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| Hibernia wrote on Thu, 15 May 2025 08:51 |
Good news all my East Coast friends... we can finally sleep! No more late starts! (I'm on a chat with some Oiler buds here on the Rock and the average sleep last night was about 4 hours.)
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Hooray! I get a week or so to catch up on sleep.
HUGE credit to Knobs coaching these playoffs. Made adjustments, and some ballsy calls with regards to changing the line-up. Guy doesn't get the credit he deserves.
Hopefully the week off gives Ekholm time to get healthy.
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tardigrade81
Messages: 3256
Registered: November 2022
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
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Skinner 100 percent. Not sure what the hell happened but he is rolling right now. I wanted him working at Wal Mart, but you have to go with the hot hand. He has been extremely good since returning
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Mike
Messages: 1581
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| Hibernia wrote on Thu, 15 May 2025 08:51 |
Good news all my East Coast friends... we can finally sleep! No more late starts! (I'm on a chat with some Oiler buds here on the Rock and the average sleep last night was about 4 hours.)
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This one wasn't so bad. Was it last year that we had a couple of almost midnight starts against LA? (even worse for you with an extra half hour)
I find those West coast games easier when I am in Paris - I just wake up a little earlier before work as opposed to staying up till 3-4AM.
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Mike
Messages: 1581
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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Well - if the series out East go to the teams leading now, we would have home ice should we make it to the finals. Still hoping for Winnipeg to show signs of life and extend their series to 7 games.
What a contrast in feelings this morning heading into the West final versus after game 2 against the Kings.
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Leia
Messages: 461
Registered: May 2003
Location: England
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| Hibernia wrote on Thu, 15 May 2025 05:51 |
Good news all my East Coast friends... we can finally sleep! No more late starts! (I'm on a chat with some Oiler buds here on the Rock and the average sleep last night was about 4 hours.)
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I'd just got myself used to early morning starts again and now I've got a week off!!!!
Still it's worth it as long as we keep winning.
A bit of rest to get bodies back closer to full fitness, time for Picks and Ecks to get fit enough to play. Things could be worse I suppose.
Take me home, country road
to the place where I belong
to Alberta, to see the Oilers
take me home, country road
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Mike
Messages: 1581
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| Mike wrote on Tue, 13 May 2025 09:53 |
Well with that shutout, Skinner now no longer has the worst save % these playoffs. He passed Hellebuyck!
Skinner .857
Hellebuyck .848
Next up:
Vasilevskiy .872
Hill .876
Ullmark .880
A 21 save shutout would do it (.881). A 45 save shutout would get him back to .900, but I don't want to see 45 shots fired at him.
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Well - he got a 24 save shutout. A 21 save shutout in game 1 will get him to .900 
I don't think he stood on his head either game. He did make a few really good saves both games, but the biggest thing was how controlled it all seemed. No flopping and running around. More of the same please.
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tardigrade81
Messages: 3256
Registered: November 2022
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
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| Mike wrote on Thu, 15 May 2025 16:44 |
| Mike wrote on Tue, 13 May 2025 09:53 |
Well with that shutout, Skinner now no longer has the worst save % these playoffs. He passed Hellebuyck!
Skinner .857
Hellebuyck .848
Next up:
Vasilevskiy .872
Hill .876
Ullmark .880
A 21 save shutout would do it (.881). A 45 save shutout would get him back to .900, but I don't want to see 45 shots fired at him.
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Well - he got a 24 save shutout. A 21 save shutout in game 1 will get him to .900
I don't think he stood on his head either game. He did make a few really good saves both games, but the biggest thing was how controlled it all seemed. No flopping and running around. More of the same please.
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Well said. And with the talent the oilers have. We don't need Skinner to be the best goalie out there, but if he's even average we have a shot to win the entire damn thing.
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benv
Messages: 639
Registered: May 2006
Location: Edmonton
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Moneypuck not giving the Oilers any respect. Even though the Oilers are the only team through to the conference finals, they still only have the fourth best Stanley cup odds (behind Florida, Carolina and Dallas).
https://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm
I think the the algorithm doesn't weigh recent history highly enough. The Oilers' weak last 30 games of the regular season convinced Moneypuck that they're not very good.
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Kr55
Messages: 11700
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| benv wrote on Thu, 15 May 2025 13:58 |
Moneypuck not giving the Oilers any respect. Even though the Oilers are the only team through to the conference finals, they still only have the fourth best Stanley cup odds (behind Florida, Carolina and Dallas).
https://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm
I think the the algorithm doesn't weigh recent history highly enough. The Oilers' weak last 30 games of the regular season convinced Moneypuck that they're not very good.
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Start the year as favorites, end the year as the underdog in every series. It's very Oilers, and maybe just the way it needed to be to have a real chance to win :)
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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nullterm
Messages: 1125
Registered: July 2007
Location: Port Moody, BC
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Skinner probably starts, but he also has a history of losing the first game or two back from an extended break. Here’s hoping he knows how to hold onto his juice.
Also we don’t know what state Pickard is coming back in when he’s back.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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Adam
Messages: 7399
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 15 May 2025 14:11 |
| benv wrote on Thu, 15 May 2025 13:58 |
Moneypuck not giving the Oilers any respect. Even though the Oilers are the only team through to the conference finals, they still only have the fourth best Stanley cup odds (behind Florida, Carolina and Dallas).
https://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm
I think the the algorithm doesn't weigh recent history highly enough. The Oilers' weak last 30 games of the regular season convinced Moneypuck that they're not very good.
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Start the year as favorites, end the year as the underdog in every series. It's very Oilers, and maybe just the way it needed to be to have a real chance to win :)
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I don't hate it...it's all part of the Us vs. the World vibe. Let's prove those doubters wrong!!!
Poor Winnipeg, Toronto and Washington...counted out already!
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 5001
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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This is quite the stat..
Vegas top goal scorers all season..
Dorofeyev 35
Hertl 32
Eichel 28
Barbashev 23
Howden 23
Vegas top goal scorers v.s. Oilers..
Dorofeyev 0
Hertl 0
Eichel 0
Barbashev 0
Howden 0
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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Kr55
Messages: 11700
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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Gene Principe @GenePrincipe
"Day to day and not available for games 1-2" @EdmontonOilers Kris Knoblauch on Mattias Ekholm
How does Knob know when games 1-2 will be? :)
Regardless, the return of Ek appears to be getting close.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 5001
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 16 May 2025 12:30 |
Gene Principe @GenePrincipe
"Day to day and not available for games 1-2" @EdmontonOilers Kris Knoblauch on Mattias Ekholm
How does Knob know when games 1-2 will be? :)
Regardless, the return of Ek appears to be getting close.
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I dunno.. I dream of it.. but I'll believe it when I see it.. he looked pretty cooked last time out.. looked severe. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
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nullterm
Messages: 1125
Registered: July 2007
Location: Port Moody, BC
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 16 May 2025 13:26 |
| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 16 May 2025 12:30 |
Gene Principe @GenePrincipe
"Day to day and not available for games 1-2" @EdmontonOilers Kris Knoblauch on Mattias Ekholm
How does Knob know when games 1-2 will be? :)
Regardless, the return of Ek appears to be getting close.
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I dunno.. I dream of it.. but I'll believe it when I see it.. he looked pretty cooked last time out.. looked severe. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
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Please don't be stepping onto the playoff ice unless he's really really really ready to go. I'm both excited and extremely hesitant. Last thing we need is Oilers medical pushing another walking wounded on the ice only to make things worse and needing 6 months of for surgery.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 5001
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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Kris Knoblauch said Friday that Mattias Ekholm is now listed as day-to-day. The big defender will not draw back during Games One or Two of the series. But he could re-enter the lineup as soon as Game Three. “Optimistic” is the somewhat cautious word the coach chose to use.
Knoblauch:
“I’m not anticipating him being ready for Game One or Game Two, but we’re optimistic that maybe sometime in this third round he will join us”. he added “To expect Ekholm when he does join us that he’s gonna be the Ekholm that we saw last year in the playoffs, you know, I don’t think that’s going to be the case. Whether that takes him one, two, four or five games or whatever it is. But I think he’ll be able to help us in some aspect immediately’.
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https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey /edmonton-oilers-dare-to-dream-as-key-d-man-nears-his-return -ahead-of-the-western-conference-final
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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tardigrade81
Messages: 3256
Registered: November 2022
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
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Stu starts and is on. A short leash is my guess. Don't matter if it's Winnipeg or Dallas.
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Jay
Messages: 934
Registered: January 2007
Location: Edmonton
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 16 May 2025 18:46 |
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Kris Knoblauch said Friday that Mattias Ekholm is now listed as day-to-day. The big defender will not draw back during Games One or Two of the series. But he could re-enter the lineup as soon as Game Three. “Optimistic” is the somewhat cautious word the coach chose to use.
Knoblauch:
“I’m not anticipating him being ready for Game One or Game Two, but we’re optimistic that maybe sometime in this third round he will join us”. he added “To expect Ekholm when he does join us that he’s gonna be the Ekholm that we saw last year in the playoffs, you know, I don’t think that’s going to be the case. Whether that takes him one, two, four or five games or whatever it is. But I think he’ll be able to help us in some aspect immediately’.
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https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey /edmonton-oilers-dare-to-dream-as-key-d-man-nears-his-return -ahead-of-the-western-conference-final
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I wouldn't get my hopes up too much about Ekholm. He has basically been awful and/or injured all year. Even if he is able to come back they aren't getting the version from 2023 and the team is on a run of zero goals allowed in the last 2 games. I certainly wouldn't be rushing Ekholm and if they continue winning don't change the lineup.
Bouchard looking pretty good without Ekholm. I would be looking to sell high on 14 in the off season if possible.
[Updated on: Sat, 17 May 2025 21:30]
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 5001
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Jay wrote on Sat, 17 May 2025 20:27 |
I would be looking to sell high on 14 in the off season if possible.
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Not a chance.. when he's healthy he's the Oilers best defenceman (excluding PP)
Not getting my hopes up too much.. Stetcher has been a beast.. good placeholder while Ekholm gets to 95%
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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Ragnarok73
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Registered: February 2011
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To Dallas it shall be, on Tuesday then. Oilers vs Stars Volume 8.
"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.
5-14-6-1
"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."
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Kr55
Messages: 11700
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Ragnarok73 wrote on Sat, 17 May 2025 21:44 |
To Dallas it shall be, on Tuesday then. Oilers vs Stars Volume 8.
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Looks like Wednesday for Game 1:
And they make our first home game at 1PM local time, sigh.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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smyth260
Messages: 1178
Registered: November 2007
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| Kr55 wrote on Sat, 17 May 2025 20:47 |
| Ragnarok73 wrote on Sat, 17 May 2025 21:44 |
To Dallas it shall be, on Tuesday then. Oilers vs Stars Volume 8.
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Looks like Wednesday for Game 1:
And they make our first home game at 1PM local time, sigh.
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Something is weird here. Katy Perry has a concert at the venue same day same time for game 1.
Clean house or bust
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Gator21
Messages: 184
Registered: February 2016
Location: Kelowna, BC
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| Kr55 wrote on Sat, 17 May 2025 21:47 |
| Ragnarok73 wrote on Sat, 17 May 2025 21:44 |
To Dallas it shall be, on Tuesday then. Oilers vs Stars Volume 8.
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Looks like Wednesday for Game 1:
And they make our first home game at 1PM local time, sigh.
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What a fkn joke
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Jay
Messages: 934
Registered: January 2007
Location: Edmonton
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 17 May 2025 21:37 |
| Jay wrote on Sat, 17 May 2025 20:27 |
I would be looking to sell high on 14 in the off season if possible.
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Not a chance.. when he's healthy he's the Oilers best defenceman (excluding PP)
Not getting my hopes up too much.. Stetcher has been a beast.. good placeholder while Ekholm gets to 95%
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He's about to be 35 and just suffered what appears to be a serious soft tissue injury. Those don't tend to heal completely very quickly. And he plays the kind of game that would suggest he isn't a young 35 already.
And he is one of the few assets that you could possibly get a decent return for to get younger/cheaper. Maybe for once the Oilers do what they never seem to be able to do - trade a player when his value is at or near it's peak.
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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PlusOne
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Registered: July 2006
Location: Regina, Sask
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| Jay wrote on Sat, 17 May 2025 21:57 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 17 May 2025 21:37 |
| Jay wrote on Sat, 17 May 2025 20:27 |
I would be looking to sell high on 14 in the off season if possible.
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Not a chance.. when he's healthy he's the Oilers best defenceman (excluding PP)
Not getting my hopes up too much.. Stetcher has been a beast.. good placeholder while Ekholm gets to 95%
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He's about to be 35 and just suffered what appears to be a serious soft tissue injury. Those don't tend to heal completely very quickly. And he plays the kind of game that would suggest he isn't a young 35 already.
And he is one of the few assets that you could possibly get a decent return for to get younger/cheaper. Maybe for once the Oilers do what they never seem to be able to do - trade a player when his value is at or near it's peak.
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I agree with this 100%. Ekholm is going to get worse, not better. If they can get good value for him, he should be moved.
At his healthiest, I doubt we see him come close to the player he was a couple years ago.
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smyth260
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Registered: November 2007
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I suspect this would be the initial schedule:
- If Dallas wins tonight we will start on Tuesday May 20th. Katy Perry concert at the American Airlines centre on the 21st so their first 2 home games would have to be sandwiched around that.
- If Dallas wins game 7 on Monday, start on the 22nd.
- If Jets win game 7 on Monday I think start on the 22nd, as there is a basketball game at the Canada Life Centre on the 23rd to sandwich around.
Looking like 5-7 full days off
Clean house or bust
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