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I can only assume this is like when Chiarelli was getting interviewed after his time with the Oilers... the other teams want to know what NOT to do. I can't imagine they would seriously hire him after the job he did in Edmonton. Sure they made it to a Conference Final, but the list of good moves that he made would leave you with 1, 2, at least 3 fingers to spare if you were counting on your good hand.



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Hibernia wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 11:02

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I can only assume this is like when Chiarelli was getting interviewed after his time with the Oilers... the other teams want to know what NOT to do. I can't imagine they would seriously hire him after the job he did in Edmonton. Sure they made it to a Conference Final, but the list of good moves that he made would leave you with 1, 2, at least 3 fingers to spare if you were counting on your good hand.


Incredibly, it's rumoured not only that Holland is the favourite to land this job but that Chiarelli is also on the list of candidates. I, for one, am hoping for them to hire both!



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Adam wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 15:50

Hibernia wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 11:02

rofl

I can only assume this is like when Chiarelli was getting interviewed after his time with the Oilers... the other teams want to know what NOT to do. I can't imagine they would seriously hire him after the job he did in Edmonton. Sure they made it to a Conference Final, but the list of good moves that he made would leave you with 1, 2, at least 3 fingers to spare if you were counting on your good hand.


Incredibly, it's rumoured not only that Holland is the favourite to land this job but that Chiarelli is also on the list of candidates. I, for one, am hoping for them to hire both!

I only wish the Islanders were a Pacific division team.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 19:29

Adam wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 15:50

Hibernia wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 11:02

rofl

I can only assume this is like when Chiarelli was getting interviewed after his time with the Oilers... the other teams want to know what NOT to do. I can't imagine they would seriously hire him after the job he did in Edmonton. Sure they made it to a Conference Final, but the list of good moves that he made would leave you with 1, 2, at least 3 fingers to spare if you were counting on your good hand.


Incredibly, it's rumoured not only that Holland is the favourite to land this job but that Chiarelli is also on the list of candidates. I, for one, am hoping for them to hire both!

I only wish the Islanders were a Pacific division team.


Well, you might get your wish... apparently Holland is also in the running for the King's job. donkey



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 Re: Holland rumoured to be in mix for Isles GM job [message #844304 is a reply to message #844288 ]
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Hibernia wrote on Fri, 09 May 2025 11:11

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 19:29

Adam wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 15:50

Hibernia wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 11:02

rofl

I can only assume this is like when Chiarelli was getting interviewed after his time with the Oilers... the other teams want to know what NOT to do. I can't imagine they would seriously hire him after the job he did in Edmonton. Sure they made it to a Conference Final, but the list of good moves that he made would leave you with 1, 2, at least 3 fingers to spare if you were counting on your good hand.


Incredibly, it's rumoured not only that Holland is the favourite to land this job but that Chiarelli is also on the list of candidates. I, for one, am hoping for them to hire both!

I only wish the Islanders were a Pacific division team.


Well, you might get your wish... apparently Holland is also in the running for the King's job. donkey


Ha ha ha...Robitaille believing that it was Holland's brilliant management that led the Oilers to three straight victories over them.



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Adam wrote on Fri, 09 May 2025 14:16

Hibernia wrote on Fri, 09 May 2025 11:11

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 19:29

Adam wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 15:50

Hibernia wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 11:02

rofl

I can only assume this is like when Chiarelli was getting interviewed after his time with the Oilers... the other teams want to know what NOT to do. I can't imagine they would seriously hire him after the job he did in Edmonton. Sure they made it to a Conference Final, but the list of good moves that he made would leave you with 1, 2, at least 3 fingers to spare if you were counting on your good hand.


Incredibly, it's rumoured not only that Holland is the favourite to land this job but that Chiarelli is also on the list of candidates. I, for one, am hoping for them to hire both!

I only wish the Islanders were a Pacific division team.


Well, you might get your wish... apparently Holland is also in the running for the King's job. donkey


Ha ha ha...Robitaille believing that it was Holland's brilliant management that led the Oilers to three straight victories over them.


Saw this Robitaille quote:


The Mayor | Team MM @mayorNHL
Robitaille said he's going to borrow something he learned from Lombardi --

When it's around 7/1 and you're thinking 'What one or two moves can you make to help you win the Cup?' ... When you're at that point, that means you're close.

That's how he views the Kings right now.




He figures the Kings are just 1 or 2 moves from being true contenders. Yet they just got beat again having to ride Kopitar and Doughty into the ground playing all the hardest situations to shelter the rest of the group.

Sounds like a perfect situation for Holland to drop into to start selling the future a bit to try to get those 1/2 pieces, and get some stinky drafting going too :)

Hope Holland gets the LA job. Dobson getting 8x10M would be bothersome.

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 09 May 2025 14:31

Adam wrote on Fri, 09 May 2025 14:16

Hibernia wrote on Fri, 09 May 2025 11:11

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 19:29

Adam wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 15:50

Hibernia wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 11:02

rofl

I can only assume this is like when Chiarelli was getting interviewed after his time with the Oilers... the other teams want to know what NOT to do. I can't imagine they would seriously hire him after the job he did in Edmonton. Sure they made it to a Conference Final, but the list of good moves that he made would leave you with 1, 2, at least 3 fingers to spare if you were counting on your good hand.


Incredibly, it's rumoured not only that Holland is the favourite to land this job but that Chiarelli is also on the list of candidates. I, for one, am hoping for them to hire both!

I only wish the Islanders were a Pacific division team.


Well, you might get your wish... apparently Holland is also in the running for the King's job. donkey


Ha ha ha...Robitaille believing that it was Holland's brilliant management that led the Oilers to three straight victories over them.


Saw this Robitaille quote:


The Mayor | Team MM @mayorNHL
Robitaille said he's going to borrow something he learned from Lombardi --

When it's around 7/1 and you're thinking 'What one or two moves can you make to help you win the Cup?' ... When you're at that point, that means you're close.

That's how he views the Kings right now.




He figures the Kings are just 1 or 2 moves from being true contenders. Yet they just got beat again having to ride Kopitar and Doughty into the ground playing all the hardest situations to shelter the rest of the group.

Sounds like a perfect situation for Holland to drop into to start selling the future a bit to try to get those 1/2 pieces, and get some stinky drafting going too :)

Hope Holland gets the LA job. Dobson getting 8x10M would be bothersome.


Are we sure he didn't say "when you're around 71...?"



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 Re: Holland rumoured to be in mix for Isles GM job [message #844071 is a reply to message #844055 ]
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Hibernia wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 11:02

rofl

I can only assume this is like when Chiarelli was getting interviewed after his time with the Oilers... the other teams want to know what NOT to do. I can't imagine they would seriously hire him after the job he did in Edmonton. Sure they made it to a Conference Final, but the list of good moves that he made would leave you with 1, 2, at least 3 fingers to spare if you were counting on your good hand.


The league is so desperate to reuse the same guys over and over that our McMiracle finals run probably erases everything else Holland did and makes him a front-runner. Chia left on a completely embarrassing note and still landed a nice job.

Bouchard's camp is praying for Holland to get this job. Could they ask for a better guy to have to quickly ink Dobson's extension before Bouch gets to his negotiation?



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Rod Peterson, who was the first to confirm Holland to the Oilers, posted today that Holland will be GM of the Kings


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PlusOne wrote on Mon, 12 May 2025 10:44

Rod Peterson, who was the first to confirm Holland to the Oilers, posted today that Holland will be GM of the Kings

Kind of seems like a pattern. Former players are given the keys to the franchise. They can't quite put it all together on their own and eventually start looking for a sage management veteran to get them over the hump. Unfortunately the former players don't have a complete understanding of organizational behavior to find the right sage management veteran, they pick someone based on a faulty (won a cup / Hockey Canada / good rep from 10 years ago) premise, and everything kind of goes in the toilet.

Kind of sad to think this version of the Kings may have peaked two weeks ago with a round 1 game 2 victory.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 12 May 2025 11:12

PlusOne wrote on Mon, 12 May 2025 10:44

Rod Peterson, who was the first to confirm Holland to the Oilers, posted today that Holland will be GM of the Kings

Kind of seems like a pattern. Former players are given the keys to the franchise. They can't quite put it all together on their own and eventually start looking for a sage management veteran to get them over the hump. Unfortunately the former players don't have a complete understanding of organizational behavior to find the right sage management veteran, they pick someone based on a faulty (won a cup / Hockey Canada / good rep from 10 years ago) premise, and everything kind of goes in the toilet.

Kind of sad to think this version of the Kings may have peaked two weeks ago with a round 1 game 2 victory.


Look forward to seeing what Holland sells to surround Kopitar and Doughty with some veteran depth for a few more runs.



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looking forward to seeing what Holland sells Kopitar and Doughty for to 'rebuild' around his key player. It's not Byfield, he'll be gone too.
Who is that immovable key player? None other than Tanner Jeannot!



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https://www.nhl.com/news/ken-holland-hired-as-los-angeles-ki ngs-general-manager

Confirmed - Holland the new GM for the LA Kings ... congratulations?



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AndersonRules wrote on Wed, 14 May 2025 13:25

https://www.nhl.com/news/ken-holland-hired-as-los-angeles-ki ngs-general-manager

Confirmed - Holland the new GM for the LA Kings ... congratulations?


What’s the old saying…

If you can’t beat ‘em, hire the one who held ‘em back?



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