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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vegas (Game #1) [message #844064 is a reply to message #844063 ]	Wed, 07 May 2025 13:21

Kr55
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Mike wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 13:14

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 14:58

Mike wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 11:44

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 14:27

Silver lining, we are up against a .876 goalie right now :)

Forgot to mention - Pickard is currently the wins leader these playoffs with 5.

Pickard's .891 is not super. His 2.76GA is pretty good. Certainly miles better than Skinner and his .810 / 6.11GA

Just looking at the goalie stats it was interesting to see likely Vezina winner Connor Hellebuyck just ahead of Skinner with an .830% and 3.85GA. Made me curious, so I went to check his career playoff stats - the narrative lately is that he sucks in the playoffs, but that does not seem to have always been the case

17-18: .922, 2.36
18-19: .913, 2.67
19-20: .904, 3.04
20-21: .931, 2.23
22-23: .886. 3.44
23-24: .870, 5.23
24-25: .830, 3.85

I think he's as good a candidate as any to go supernova like Bobrovsky did against us those first 3 games last year.

The

20-21: .931, 2.23

was courtesy of us :) I would delete it from the data as an outlier. Swept by Montreal after sweeping us.

If you take out the weird Canadian division year, the trend line is down down down down down every playoffs. Keep in mind Helle and the Jets are putting up spectacular regular season performances in lots of these years they bomb in the first round.

It's probably a case of expectations rising and rising for the Jets, and then they had some stinker playoff performances with him being a big part of it. Got to the conference finals his first playoffs and he played well. But then next year, first round exit, then again the next year and his play fell off. The next season he spanked us, but then swept by Montreal.

Then the really weak performances came, another 1st round exit, and then they they do it again last year. And then they were on the edge of doing it yet again against St. Louis with him playing extra brutal in a bunch of the games. Needed a break to finally break the cycle and maybe finally got the first step of doing it now with that insane comeback. Will be curious to see how Helle plays in the 2nd round.

Oh it's easy to see the downward trend, I'm just saying this is a guy who has the ability to turn it around.

Of the 8 starters left, Pickard is ahead of Hellebuyck, Hill, and Bobrovsky for save %. And Oettinger, Hill, and Hellebuyck for GAA.

Actually, other than Anderson and Thompson, most guys have just OK stats, with Hellebuyck being quite bad.

Yeah, bet it's probably 90% mental for Helle. His talent level is still Vezina tier, but confidence issues breaks any goalie. Huge test coming for him now.

I hope we keep personality in mind when we go goalie hunting this summer (yeah, I'm being rude and assuming we don't just make Pickard a starter). All the Oilers really need is a goalie with just above average skill that doesn't ever quit and can inspire a little confidence in his players. Smith could have been fine, but his body kept breaking down.

When we are on, with the top end guys we have and good systems play, we usually don't need games stolen for us by goalies, we just need them not given away. And we need our goalie to not turn into a depressing mopey mess.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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