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Absolutely beautiful!!!! Outside of the first. Absolutely dominated that game
.I called it. I think I said 4&2 actually



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tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 06 May 2025 22:16

Absolutely beautiful!!!! Outside of the first. Absolutely dominated that game
.I called it. I think I said 4&2 actually

Thought we told you last spring bad mojo to post in review before victories.

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g2k wrote on Tue, 06 May 2025 22:17

tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 06 May 2025 22:16

Absolutely beautiful!!!! Outside of the first. Absolutely dominated that game
.I called it. I think I said 4&2 actually

Thought we told you last spring bad mojo to post in review before victories.

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Agreed! g2k's number should come first...THEN you're allowed to post here.

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Whatever we adjusted after a rough 1st period. It worked.

What a last 2 periods.

Keep it up boys! Pickard beat by a double deflection that was going wide, and a 5-hole snipe by maybe the best shooter on Vegas. No complaints, kept us close, gave the team time to adjust and we got the win.

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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 06 May 2025 21:19

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Don’t know if Knoblauch designed the game that way as a bit of a chess match but pretty tidy road game. Can’t understate how much more I like starting the series with a lead…




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...can't underestimate the value of 92's punishing forecheck ALL game. ...unsung hero IMHO. icon_cool


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watchman wrote on Tue, 06 May 2025 21:28

...can't underestimate the value of 92's punishing forecheck ALL game. ...unsung hero IMHO. icon_cool



Yeah forgot him.. if a Vegas guy was within 2 steps he was getting board contact courtesy of Podz..



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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 06 May 2025 22:33

watchman wrote on Tue, 06 May 2025 21:28

...can't underestimate the value of 92's punishing forecheck ALL game. ...unsung hero IMHO. icon_cool



Yeah forgot him.. if a Vegas guy was within 2 steps he was getting board contact courtesy of Podz..


Our grinders were laying some big hits on their D. Hyman is a hitting machine now when he's off the top line. Dallas Eakins would be very mad at the play of our depth guys.



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Man - loving me some Brown! He’s been all over the place.

And how about that assist by Kane? Did he work on his passing while he was out the last year?

And Pickard - zero blame on the first goal. Nobody is stopping that. And the second one, Mark Stone from point blank? Stoppable sure, but that’s a goal on most goalies in the league from that guy in that spot. 5-0 baby!



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I have to give a shout out to all our guys. Getting down 2 - 0 early and instead of turtling and falling apart they step it up pushed hard and looked dominate against the Knights through most of the game.

And yeah Connor Brown deserves a little bit extra love. He can really skate he can score but more then anything he really works out there. He is one of those kind of players that never takes a shift off.

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Rowan Oil Fielding wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 02:12

I have to give a shout out to all our guys. Getting down 2 - 0 early and instead of turtling and falling apart they step it up pushed hard and looked dominate against the Knights through most of the game.

And yeah Connor Brown deserves a little bit extra love. He can really skate he can score but more then anything he really works out there. He is one of those kind of players that never takes a shift off.

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Lol that was me with about 2 minutes left in the third



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Rowan Oil Fielding wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 01:12

I have to give a shout out to all our guys. Getting down 2 - 0 early and instead of turtling and falling apart they step it up pushed hard and looked dominate against the Knights through most of the game.

And yeah Connor Brown deserves a little bit extra love. He can really skate he can score but more then anything he really works out there. He is one of those kind of players that never takes a shift off.



If you listen to Corey Perry's interview after the game he talks about that very thing.. everyone just keeps on mission.. keep rollin' and eventually it'll come up sixes..



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Had to endure the ESPN feed watching and what a bunch of home team fanboys...

A scrappy first period, two ugly goals against, but towards the end we started to grab the game, that goal by Perry was huge in the context of the game. On the eye for a while Draisaitl looked off his game, I still don't think he's close to full fitness, but he's contributing. Unlike other years when he's been banged up though we've got scoring from others which is helping.

I thought Klingberg was huge at the back, composed and assured and starting to skate as well. Even when he slipped he managed to get the puck away from danger. Not sure why we start with Nurse and Bouch together, we never end the game with them as a pair.

A road win though, that's huge I've been thinking the series in 7, but now we have to regroup and go again on Thursday.



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Leia wrote on Tue, 06 May 2025 21:36

.. Not sure why we start with Nurse and Bouch together, we never end the game with them as a pair..


Its just a psych out ! 😉



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smyth260 wrote on Tue, 06 May 2025 22:24

Don’t know if Knoblauch designed the game that way as a bit of a chess match but pretty tidy road game. Can’t understate how much more I like starting the series with a lead…



Guaranteed split!

Great start. This team seems calm at the moment.



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g2k wrote on Tue, 06 May 2025 22:39

smyth260 wrote on Tue, 06 May 2025 22:24

Don’t know if Knoblauch designed the game that way as a bit of a chess match but pretty tidy road game. Can’t understate how much more I like starting the series with a lead…



Guaranteed split!

Great start. This team seems calm at the moment.


Split? Let's just take both games.



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Some good games out there.. Klingburglar with the saucy passes.. mobile.. routinely moved the puck quickly up to forwards..

Perry.. another beauty goal..

Brown finally ca$hes in on his chances..

Guys were all putting in a solid effort to keep the puck in front of them..

Pickard solid again.. he's now 5-0 icon_nod



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If this is all VEGAS has... they aren't going anywhere. Except the golf course. lmao


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That was totally not the game I was expecting for a Game 1 in Vegas! But I'll definitely take it.


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2nd and 3rd period just deleted any bad in the first. Full roster domination

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Guess we'll see how Vegas adjusts next game.



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Fun stat of the night

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[Updated on: Tue, 06 May 2025 22:47]


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Very composed and veteran playoff win. More please.

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inverno76 wrote on Tue, 06 May 2025 22:45

Very composed and veteran playoff win. More please.

Who’s this Connor Brown guy, anyways?



...doesn't matter. He won't be around after failing the drug test. rofl



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Pickard has crawled into the Top Ten in Playoff GAA. faint

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We keep playing how we played last night and we are a force that is tough to beat. Damn that was awesome.


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tardigrade81 wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 10:11

We keep playing how we played last night and we are a force that is tough to beat. Damn that was awesome.


We looked pretty dopey in the first, but total domination in the 2nd and 3rd. We didn't give them anything. They got 7 shots on goal in 2 periods (just 1 in the second). 3 of those were on their underserved PP. That idiotic call on Brown. Pickard came up huge on a at least one of those. But that's it. 4 EV shots on goal in 2 full periods. We got 18 over the same stretch icon_eek

I wasn't a fan of the Perry, Brown, and Klingberg signings, but thrilled to be wrong on all 3. I don't want to overstate their contributions, but I thought all 3 looked great, even beyond the goals scored. Brown's 2 way play was elite. Perry is just a smart and skilled hockey player. And Klingberg - the man can move the puck. Both with his skating and his passing - we all know he's not Larry Robinson in his own end, but his poise and skill allows us to get out of zone with speed and most importantly possession. Hope they keep it up.



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Mike wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 07:32

tardigrade81 wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 10:11

We keep playing how we played last night and we are a force that is tough to beat. Damn that was awesome.


We looked pretty dopey in the first, but total domination in the 2nd and 3rd. We didn't give them anything. They got 7 shots on goal in 2 periods (just 1 in the second). 3 of those were on their underserved PP. That idiotic call on Brown. Pickard came up huge on a at least one of those. But that's it. 4 EV shots on goal in 2 full periods. We got 18 over the same stretch icon_eek

I wasn't a fan of the Perry, Brown, and Klingberg signings, but thrilled to be wrong on all 3. I don't want to overstate their contributions, but I thought all 3 looked great, even beyond the goals scored. Brown's 2 way play was elite. Perry is just a smart and skilled hockey player. And Klingberg - the man can move the puck. Both with his skating and his passing - we all know he's not Larry Robinson in his own end, but his poise and skill allows us to get out of zone with speed and most importantly possession. Hope they keep it up.


Really well executed game after a bit of a sluggish start. And even the second half of the first period I felt like the Oilers were putting on a master class in shot suppression. Vegas had most of their shots in the first half of that period. Hopefully we can keep that up in Game 2.

I would still love for a few games of .900 goaltending, but Pickard was good enough in this one, and if we can keep the shot count against low while dominating puck possession, we're in a good spot.



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Adam wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 09:35

Mike wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 07:32

tardigrade81 wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 10:11

We keep playing how we played last night and we are a force that is tough to beat. Damn that was awesome.


We looked pretty dopey in the first, but total domination in the 2nd and 3rd. We didn't give them anything. They got 7 shots on goal in 2 periods (just 1 in the second). 3 of those were on their underserved PP. That idiotic call on Brown. Pickard came up huge on a at least one of those. But that's it. 4 EV shots on goal in 2 full periods. We got 18 over the same stretch icon_eek

I wasn't a fan of the Perry, Brown, and Klingberg signings, but thrilled to be wrong on all 3. I don't want to overstate their contributions, but I thought all 3 looked great, even beyond the goals scored. Brown's 2 way play was elite. Perry is just a smart and skilled hockey player. And Klingberg - the man can move the puck. Both with his skating and his passing - we all know he's not Larry Robinson in his own end, but his poise and skill allows us to get out of zone with speed and most importantly possession. Hope they keep it up.


Really well executed game after a bit of a sluggish start. And even the second half of the first period I felt like the Oilers were putting on a master class in shot suppression. Vegas had most of their shots in the first half of that period. Hopefully we can keep that up in Game 2.

I would still love for a few games of .900 goaltending, but Pickard was good enough in this one, and if we can keep the shot count against low while dominating puck possession, we're in a good spot.


That was a tough one to try to get 0.900 on. Stone scores with a wide already deflected shot off his foot, and then we let Stone pick his spot uncontested right in the slot 15 ft out from Pickard. That was all the stuff let in, and we didn't let Pickard see enough low quality shots to pad the stats. Refs tried to help with a clownish penalty, and Pickard had to make a couple big saves. Bummer, but can see what happens in the next one.

Silver lining, we are up against a .876 goalie right now :)



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 14:27

Silver lining, we are up against a .876 goalie right now :)


Forgot to mention - Pickard is currently the wins leader these playoffs with 5.

Pickard's .891 is not super. His 2.76GA is pretty good. Certainly miles better than Skinner and his .810 / 6.11GA

Just looking at the goalie stats it was interesting to see likely Vezina winner Connor Hellebuyck just ahead of Skinner with an .830% and 3.85GA. Made me curious, so I went to check his career playoff stats - the narrative lately is that he sucks in the playoffs, but that does not seem to have always been the case

17-18: .922, 2.36
18-19: .913, 2.67
19-20: .904, 3.04
20-21: .931, 2.23
22-23: .886. 3.44
23-24: .870, 5.23
24-25: .830, 3.85

I think he's as good a candidate as any to go supernova like Bobrovsky did against us those first 3 games last year.



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Mike wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 11:44

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 14:27

Silver lining, we are up against a .876 goalie right now :)


Forgot to mention - Pickard is currently the wins leader these playoffs with 5.

Pickard's .891 is not super. His 2.76GA is pretty good. Certainly miles better than Skinner and his .810 / 6.11GA

Just looking at the goalie stats it was interesting to see likely Vezina winner Connor Hellebuyck just ahead of Skinner with an .830% and 3.85GA. Made me curious, so I went to check his career playoff stats - the narrative lately is that he sucks in the playoffs, but that does not seem to have always been the case

17-18: .922, 2.36
18-19: .913, 2.67
19-20: .904, 3.04
20-21: .931, 2.23
22-23: .886. 3.44
23-24: .870, 5.23
24-25: .830, 3.85

I think he's as good a candidate as any to go supernova like Bobrovsky did against us those first 3 games last year.


The

20-21: .931, 2.23

was courtesy of us :) I would delete it from the data as an outlier. Swept by Montreal after sweeping us.

If you take out the weird Canadian division year, the trend line is down down down down down every playoffs. Keep in mind Helle and the Jets are putting up spectacular regular season performances in lots of these years they bomb in the first round.


It's probably a case of expectations rising and rising for the Jets, and then they had some stinker playoff performances with him being a big part of it. Got to the conference finals his first playoffs and he played well. But then next year, first round exit, then again the next year and his play fell off. The next season he spanked us, but then swept by Montreal.

Then the really weak performances came, another 1st round exit, and then they they do it again last year. And then they were on the edge of doing it yet again against St. Louis with him playing extra brutal in a bunch of the games. Needed a break to finally break the cycle and maybe finally got the first step of doing it now with that insane comeback. Will be curious to see how Helle plays in the 2nd round.

[Updated on: Wed, 07 May 2025 13:09]


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vegas (Game #1) [message #844063 is a reply to message #844060 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 14:58

Mike wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 11:44

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 14:27

Silver lining, we are up against a .876 goalie right now :)


Forgot to mention - Pickard is currently the wins leader these playoffs with 5.

Pickard's .891 is not super. His 2.76GA is pretty good. Certainly miles better than Skinner and his .810 / 6.11GA

Just looking at the goalie stats it was interesting to see likely Vezina winner Connor Hellebuyck just ahead of Skinner with an .830% and 3.85GA. Made me curious, so I went to check his career playoff stats - the narrative lately is that he sucks in the playoffs, but that does not seem to have always been the case

17-18: .922, 2.36
18-19: .913, 2.67
19-20: .904, 3.04
20-21: .931, 2.23
22-23: .886. 3.44
23-24: .870, 5.23
24-25: .830, 3.85

I think he's as good a candidate as any to go supernova like Bobrovsky did against us those first 3 games last year.


The

20-21: .931, 2.23

was courtesy of us :) I would delete it from the data as an outlier. Swept by Montreal after sweeping us.

If you take out the weird Canadian division year, the trend line is down down down down down every playoffs. Keep in mind Helle and the Jets are putting up spectacular regular season performances in lots of these years they bomb in the first round.


It's probably a case of expectations rising and rising for the Jets, and then they had some stinker playoff performances with him being a big part of it. Got to the conference finals his first playoffs and he played well. But then next year, first round exit, then again the next year and his play fell off. The next season he spanked us, but then swept by Montreal.

Then the really weak performances came, another 1st round exit, and then they they do it again last year. And then they were on the edge of doing it yet again against St. Louis with him playing extra brutal in a bunch of the games. Needed a break to finally break the cycle and maybe finally got the first step of doing it now with that insane comeback. Will be curious to see how Helle plays in the 2nd round.


Oh it's easy to see the downward trend, I'm just saying this is a guy who has the ability to turn it around.

Of the 8 starters left, Pickard is ahead of Hellebuyck, Hill, and Bobrovsky for save %. And Oettinger, Hill, and Hellebuyck for GAA.

Actually, other than Anderson and Thompson, most guys have just OK stats, with Hellebuyck being quite bad.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vegas (Game #1) [message #844064 is a reply to message #844063 ]
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Mike wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 13:14

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 14:58

Mike wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 11:44

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 14:27

Silver lining, we are up against a .876 goalie right now :)


Forgot to mention - Pickard is currently the wins leader these playoffs with 5.

Pickard's .891 is not super. His 2.76GA is pretty good. Certainly miles better than Skinner and his .810 / 6.11GA

Just looking at the goalie stats it was interesting to see likely Vezina winner Connor Hellebuyck just ahead of Skinner with an .830% and 3.85GA. Made me curious, so I went to check his career playoff stats - the narrative lately is that he sucks in the playoffs, but that does not seem to have always been the case

17-18: .922, 2.36
18-19: .913, 2.67
19-20: .904, 3.04
20-21: .931, 2.23
22-23: .886. 3.44
23-24: .870, 5.23
24-25: .830, 3.85

I think he's as good a candidate as any to go supernova like Bobrovsky did against us those first 3 games last year.


The

20-21: .931, 2.23

was courtesy of us :) I would delete it from the data as an outlier. Swept by Montreal after sweeping us.

If you take out the weird Canadian division year, the trend line is down down down down down every playoffs. Keep in mind Helle and the Jets are putting up spectacular regular season performances in lots of these years they bomb in the first round.


It's probably a case of expectations rising and rising for the Jets, and then they had some stinker playoff performances with him being a big part of it. Got to the conference finals his first playoffs and he played well. But then next year, first round exit, then again the next year and his play fell off. The next season he spanked us, but then swept by Montreal.

Then the really weak performances came, another 1st round exit, and then they they do it again last year. And then they were on the edge of doing it yet again against St. Louis with him playing extra brutal in a bunch of the games. Needed a break to finally break the cycle and maybe finally got the first step of doing it now with that insane comeback. Will be curious to see how Helle plays in the 2nd round.


Oh it's easy to see the downward trend, I'm just saying this is a guy who has the ability to turn it around.

Of the 8 starters left, Pickard is ahead of Hellebuyck, Hill, and Bobrovsky for save %. And Oettinger, Hill, and Hellebuyck for GAA.

Actually, other than Anderson and Thompson, most guys have just OK stats, with Hellebuyck being quite bad.


Yeah, bet it's probably 90% mental for Helle. His talent level is still Vezina tier, but confidence issues breaks any goalie. Huge test coming for him now.


I hope we keep personality in mind when we go goalie hunting this summer (yeah, I'm being rude and assuming we don't just make Pickard a starter). All the Oilers really need is a goalie with just above average skill that doesn't ever quit and can inspire a little confidence in his players. Smith could have been fine, but his body kept breaking down.

When we are on, with the top end guys we have and good systems play, we usually don't need games stolen for us by goalies, we just need them not given away. And we need our goalie to not turn into a depressing mopey mess.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vegas (Game #1) [message #844068 is a reply to message #844064 ]
Wed, 07 May 2025 15:46 Go to previous message
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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 13:21

Mike wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 13:14

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 14:58

Mike wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 11:44

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 14:27

Silver lining, we are up against a .876 goalie right now :)


Forgot to mention - Pickard is currently the wins leader these playoffs with 5.

Pickard's .891 is not super. His 2.76GA is pretty good. Certainly miles better than Skinner and his .810 / 6.11GA

Just looking at the goalie stats it was interesting to see likely Vezina winner Connor Hellebuyck just ahead of Skinner with an .830% and 3.85GA. Made me curious, so I went to check his career playoff stats - the narrative lately is that he sucks in the playoffs, but that does not seem to have always been the case

17-18: .922, 2.36
18-19: .913, 2.67
19-20: .904, 3.04
20-21: .931, 2.23
22-23: .886. 3.44
23-24: .870, 5.23
24-25: .830, 3.85

I think he's as good a candidate as any to go supernova like Bobrovsky did against us those first 3 games last year.


The

20-21: .931, 2.23

was courtesy of us :) I would delete it from the data as an outlier. Swept by Montreal after sweeping us.

If you take out the weird Canadian division year, the trend line is down down down down down every playoffs. Keep in mind Helle and the Jets are putting up spectacular regular season performances in lots of these years they bomb in the first round.


It's probably a case of expectations rising and rising for the Jets, and then they had some stinker playoff performances with him being a big part of it. Got to the conference finals his first playoffs and he played well. But then next year, first round exit, then again the next year and his play fell off. The next season he spanked us, but then swept by Montreal.

Then the really weak performances came, another 1st round exit, and then they they do it again last year. And then they were on the edge of doing it yet again against St. Louis with him playing extra brutal in a bunch of the games. Needed a break to finally break the cycle and maybe finally got the first step of doing it now with that insane comeback. Will be curious to see how Helle plays in the 2nd round.


Oh it's easy to see the downward trend, I'm just saying this is a guy who has the ability to turn it around.

Of the 8 starters left, Pickard is ahead of Hellebuyck, Hill, and Bobrovsky for save %. And Oettinger, Hill, and Hellebuyck for GAA.

Actually, other than Anderson and Thompson, most guys have just OK stats, with Hellebuyck being quite bad.


Yeah, bet it's probably 90% mental for Helle. His talent level is still Vezina tier, but confidence issues breaks any goalie. Huge test coming for him now.


I hope we keep personality in mind when we go goalie hunting this summer (yeah, I'm being rude and assuming we don't just make Pickard a starter). All the Oilers really need is a goalie with just above average skill that doesn't ever quit and can inspire a little confidence in his players. Smith could have been fine, but his body kept breaking down.

When we are on, with the top end guys we have and good systems play, we usually don't need games stolen for us by goalies, we just need them not given away. And we need our goalie to not turn into a depressing mopey mess.


I wonder if part of it isn't the Jets' decision to play him so much through the season. Most goalies aren't going to say no if you go back to them night after night, but Hellebuyck has played over 60 games each of the last four years. That's pretty rare. There's only him and Saros playing that much (253 games each in that time) and Saros' numbers are also declining through that period. Hellebuyck's played more minutes in that time too.

He's been great the last few regular seasons, but in a year like this where the Jets were not in doubt to make the playoffs, and Eric Comrie gave them good numbers in his 20 appearances, I wonder if the team should have taken 10 games more off his workload.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vegas (Game #1) [message #844061 is a reply to message #844046 ]
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Mike wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 14:32

tardigrade81 wrote on Wed, 07 May 2025 10:11

We keep playing how we played last night and we are a force that is tough to beat. Damn that was awesome.


We looked pretty dopey in the first, but total domination in the 2nd and 3rd. We didn't give them anything. They got 7 shots on goal in 2 periods (just 1 in the second). 3 of those were on their underserved PP. That idiotic call on Brown. Pickard came up huge on a at least one of those. But that's it. 4 EV shots on goal in 2 full periods. We got 18 over the same stretch icon_eek

I wasn't a fan of the Perry, Brown, and Klingberg signings, but thrilled to be wrong on all 3. I don't want to overstate their contributions, but I thought all 3 looked great, even beyond the goals scored. Brown's 2 way play was elite. Perry is just a smart and skilled hockey player. And Klingberg - the man can move the puck. Both with his skating and his passing - we all know he's not Larry Robinson in his own end, but his poise and skill allows us to get out of zone with speed and most importantly possession. Hope they keep it up.

Well said. This team usually struggles to put together three full periods but overall was excellent



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Vegas (Game #1) [message #844062 is a reply to message #844061 ]
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How about the 3rd assist for Klingberg on the GWG? Zipped it up to RNH, right on the tape. That was awesome.


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