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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843408 is a reply to message #843406 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 20:57

Kr55
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Jay wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 20:56

FFS Nurse. Just disgusting. Bench him.

Bouch gets in trouble. Nurse just watches while casually coasting back. That is way too much stupid defensively for one D pair. Knob putting the final nail in the coffin by so suborning keeping those guys together

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843412 is a reply to message #843408 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:01

Jay
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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 20:57

Jay wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 20:56

FFS Nurse. Just disgusting. Bench him.

Bouch gets in trouble. Nurse just watches while casually coasting back. That is way too much stupid defensively for one D pair. Knob putting the final nail in the coffin by so suborning keeping those guys together

That's on Nurse. You could see that play developing a mile away and (9.)25 skates back like he is allergic to any sort of contact and refuses to engage the guy skating into a breakaway. Such a boat anchor and saves his most horrific momentum killing game for the playoffs every year.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843417 is a reply to message #843412 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:03

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I hate saying this, but they deserve to be beating us tonight. We don't look sharp, in fact we looked gassed. I'm not confident we can mount a comeback.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843414 is a reply to message #843408 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:01

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Nurse and Bouchard are an absolute tire fire together, and all the fans have been able to see it for years. How and why is Knoblauch SOOOO blind to the fact that these guys are simply terrible together?

Oilers are taking a giant turd again tonight. Awesome. The whole season for one game of passion and fire and actual commitment to trying to win a meaningful game. Back to the same garbage tonight. 10 shots halfway through the second period.

Pathetic.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843418 is a reply to message #843414 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:04

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This is Nurse’s 3rd playoffs in a row of being a complete bum we need to win in spite of. Stupid instigator 3 years ago. Last year competing for the playoff minus record until a crazy run of luck in the last series. This year holy hell dude looks like he is just out of Junior. Doing the same last rings around the boards right to the other team all night. Clown show. 9.25M for play that could be replaced by any number of 3-4M D in the league.

It will always be bizarre that Nurse’s best hockey ever in playoffs came when he had a messed up hip and couldn’t skate hard, and had to lean defensively out of necessity.

[Updated on: Sun, 27 April 2025 21:10]

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843424 is a reply to message #843414 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:10

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HamBlaster wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:01

Nurse and Bouchard are an absolute tire fire together, and all the fans have been able to see it for years. How and why is Knoblauch SOOOO blind to the fact that these guys are simply terrible together?

Oilers are taking a giant turd again tonight. Awesome. The whole season for one game of passion and fire and actual commitment to trying to win a meaningful game. Back to the same garbage tonight. 10 shots halfway through the second period.

Pathetic.

This is very key point.
Bouchard (or any offensive defenceman) will always be polarizing. He will always give up some chances but the hope is that it is balanced by the goals for.
He needs a steady, pure, stay at home defenceman and he is fine. Pairing him with Nurse, who is prone to being out of position, is a recipe for disaster.

It seems like Nurse plays dumber with 2 than any other partner. When you have one D who takes a lot of offensive chances his partner needs to make choices to be the constant, consistent back up.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843410 is a reply to message #843369 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 20:58

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How is this so difficult ? I’m close to done with Knob.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843413 is a reply to message #843410 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:01

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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 19:58

Walman Bouch
nurse Kulak

How is this so difficult ? I’m close to done with Knob.

The two dumbest D-men on the team.. turnover machines the both of them.. Knob is gone this summer.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843420 is a reply to message #843413 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:05

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Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:01

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 19:58

Walman Bouch
nurse Kulak

How is this so difficult ? I’m close to done with Knob.

The two dumbest D-men on the team.. turnover machines the both of them.. Knob is gone this summer.

Bouchard has his issues. But let's not compare him with the albatrose Nurse.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843415 is a reply to message #843410 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:02

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This game is our season in a nutshell. Tons of chances, barely anything to show for it. LA: 3 chances, 3 goals.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843411 is a reply to message #843369 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:00

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Thats it.

Bouchard should have turned and started skating forwards as soon as it it was going towards his end.. instead he keeps trying to skate backwards facing the guy as he goes straight past him.. the guy is brainless.. Nurse no better.. him and Nurse together are Oiler Kryptonite.

And Pickard then can't make a stop to save his life.

[Updated on: Sun, 27 April 2025 21:03]

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843416 is a reply to message #843411 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:02

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Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:00

Thats it.

Bouchard should have started skating forwards as soon as it it was going towards his end.. the guy is brainless.. Nurse no better.. him and Nurse together are Oiler Kryptonite.

And Pickard can't make a stop to save his life.

That's Nurses man all day. Everyone else could see that play developing and he was looking right at it and somehow couldn't figure it out. Brutal.

No worse contract in the league.

2 creates offensively. Nurse provides nothing but negative equity in the playoffs.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843421 is a reply to message #843416 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:05

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Nurse blew it. He is known to do it and I have said it for years with him. He is a decent player but he makes way too much money. I think he is massively overrated. What. That said right now nobody is playing good tonight. Thought we would come out on fire. Other than the PP we haven't done squat

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843423 is a reply to message #843416 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:09

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Jay wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 20:02

Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:00

Thats it.

Bouchard should have started skating forwards as soon as it it was going towards his end.. the guy is brainless.. Nurse no better.. him and Nurse together are Oiler Kryptonite.

And Pickard can't make a stop to save his life.

That's Nurses man all day. Everyone else could see that play developing and he was looking right at it and somehow couldn't figure it out. Brutal.

No worse contract in the league.

2 creates offensively. Nurse provides nothing but negative equity in the playoffs.

Sorry man, I saw Bouchard was in trouble as soon as that play started and I said pivot you idiot he's going to go past you .. you're skating too slow backwards.. he doesn't .. and creates a breakaway .. guy has zero defensive IQ or sense of danger.. he couldn't sense he was getting beat.. kept skating backwards anyway.. didn't pivot until the guy was past him..

[Updated on: Sun, 27 April 2025 21:10]

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843426 is a reply to message #843411 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:10

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Shots are 26 to 12 almost through two periods. That's all you need to know about these Oilers, apparently. Inconsistent, non-clutch offense, porous D and massively questionable goaltending. If they don't show up for the third period, this game is the equivalent of them just rolling over and dying.

Brutal.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843427 is a reply to message #843426 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:12

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HamBlaster wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:10

Shots are 26 to 12 almost through two periods. That's all you need to know about these Oilers, apparently. Inconsistent, non-clutch offense, porous D and massively questionable goaltending. If they don't show up for the third period, this game is the equivalent of them just rolling over and dying.

Brutal.

Honestly can say it would be undeserved if we win this series. We played maybe 10 minutes of the series as a team as hard as the Kings have played the entire series. Just 10 minutes to start game 3. That’s it. And the kings played way harder than us in almost every other moment. We have the best players but 2 guys are never gonna be enough no matter how much our ownership and management the last 10 years thinks they can just automatically win the cup by having the generational talent.

I know deserve has nothing to do with it and we can still win. But I wouldn’t put a nickel down betting on it from what I’m seeing

[Updated on: Sun, 27 April 2025 21:14]

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843430 is a reply to message #843427 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:28

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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 20:12

HamBlaster wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:10

Shots are 26 to 12 almost through two periods. That's all you need to know about these Oilers, apparently. Inconsistent, non-clutch offense, porous D and massively questionable goaltending. If they don't show up for the third period, this game is the equivalent of them just rolling over and dying.

Brutal.

Honestly can say it would be undeserved if we win this series. We played maybe 10 minutes of the series as a team as hard as the Kings have played the entire series. Just 10 minutes to start game 3. That’s it. And the kings played way harder than us in almost every other moment.

IMHO.. Other than #97 & #29, to me .. almost everyone else can be dealt or not re-signed next year.

Forwards: I'd bring back #90 for min.. guy at least brings it.. he's got 21 goals for the year..

Maybe: Hyman, Kane (if healthy), Frederik (if healthy),

Rest are too slow, weak, and can't score.. nor apparently even PK (you need speed for that)

On D: bring back 27, 96, Ekholm, maybe.. Klingburg (if he is healthy and cheap)

No idea what to do with Nurse and Bouchard.. both are too much of a defensive liability.. which a winning team can't afford to have.

Goalies: None

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843432 is a reply to message #843430 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:37

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Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:28

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 20:12

HamBlaster wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:10

Shots are 26 to 12 almost through two periods. That's all you need to know about these Oilers, apparently. Inconsistent, non-clutch offense, porous D and massively questionable goaltending. If they don't show up for the third period, this game is the equivalent of them just rolling over and dying.

Brutal.

Honestly can say it would be undeserved if we win this series. We played maybe 10 minutes of the series as a team as hard as the Kings have played the entire series. Just 10 minutes to start game 3. That’s it. And the kings played way harder than us in almost every other moment.

IMHO.. Other than #97 & #29, to me .. almost everyone else can be dealt or not re-signed next year.

Forwards: I'd bring back #90 for min.. guy at least brings it.. he's got 21 goals for the year..

Maybe: Hyman, Kane (if healthy), Frederik (if healthy),

Rest are too slow, weak, and can't score.. nor apparently even PK (you need speed for that)

On D: bring back 27, 96, Ekholm, maybe.. Klingburg (if he is healthy and cheap)

No idea what to do with Nurse and Bouchard.. both are too much of a defensive liability.. which a winning team can't afford to have.

Goalies: None

Bouch and ek looked like one of the best D pairs ever in the playoffs. You just need a smart defensive guy with Bouch and you can be golden. Ek is probably the only reliable LHD we have on our team that can handle big minutes. Hoped for better from Walman, he looks hurt and/or overwhelmed by his first time in the playoffs as a regular. But obviously would rather pair him with Bouch over Nurse still.

Nurse on the other hand. You are trying to figure out how to find a 4M super responsible guy to put with him, so you can pray you have a 13-14M D pair that can just keep its head above water and not cost you games with a guy babysitting nurse every night. Guy is near untradable but would look for any way possible this summer. Seth jones was moved. Maybe Nurse can be too.

[Updated on: Sun, 27 April 2025 21:42]

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843454 is a reply to message #843432 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 22:13

Jay
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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:37

Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:28

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 20:12

HamBlaster wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:10

Shots are 26 to 12 almost through two periods. That's all you need to know about these Oilers, apparently. Inconsistent, non-clutch offense, porous D and massively questionable goaltending. If they don't show up for the third period, this game is the equivalent of them just rolling over and dying.

Brutal.

Honestly can say it would be undeserved if we win this series. We played maybe 10 minutes of the series as a team as hard as the Kings have played the entire series. Just 10 minutes to start game 3. That’s it. And the kings played way harder than us in almost every other moment.

IMHO.. Other than #97 & #29, to me .. almost everyone else can be dealt or not re-signed next year.

Forwards: I'd bring back #90 for min.. guy at least brings it.. he's got 21 goals for the year..

Maybe: Hyman, Kane (if healthy), Frederik (if healthy),

Rest are too slow, weak, and can't score.. nor apparently even PK (you need speed for that)

On D: bring back 27, 96, Ekholm, maybe.. Klingburg (if he is healthy and cheap)

No idea what to do with Nurse and Bouchard.. both are too much of a defensive liability.. which a winning team can't afford to have.

Goalies: None

Bouch and ek looked like one of the best D pairs ever in the playoffs. You just need a smart defensive guy with Bouch and you can be golden. Ek is probably the only reliable LHD we have on our team that can handle big minutes. Hoped for better from Walman, he looks hurt and/or overwhelmed by his first time in the playoffs as a regular. But obviously would rather pair him with Bouch over Nurse still.

Nurse on the other hand. You are trying to figure out how to find a 4M super responsible guy to put with him, so you can pray you have a 13-14M D pair that can just keep its head above water and not cost you games with a guy babysitting nurse every night. Guy is near untradable but would look for any way possible this summer. Seth jones was moved. Maybe Nurse can be too.

Yeah Nurse is untradeable. He has a no move so he isn't going to a basement team as a salary dump. And no contendor is going to take him unless you throw throw in some massive assets which we don't have. The only hope is that he get's injured and retires. Not that I hope he get's injured necessarily. It's not his fault he sucks it's managements job to recognise that fact.

I think this team was stupid to bank on a healthy Ekholm going into this season and I think they're extra dumb to do it again next year - which means that's what they'll probably do. He has peaked and the returns are going to diminish quickly. I'd move him while his value is relatively high.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843419 is a reply to message #843369 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:05

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McDavid is that A+ student who does all the work on the group project and the other classmates just chime in with an irrelevant comment here and there.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843422 is a reply to message #843419 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:06

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843425 is a reply to message #843422 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:10

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843428 is a reply to message #843369 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:18

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Other than McDavid, Drai and Perry, the whole collection of Edmonton forwards have 3 SOG between them. Truth is I don't know if I've ever seen McDavid so frustrated except maybe after the 3-0 final and the “just not foocking goood enough speech ?"

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843429 is a reply to message #843428 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:22

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Rowan Oil Fielding wrote on Mon, 28 April 2025 04:18

Other than McDavid, Drai and Perry, the whole collection of Edmonton forwards have 3 SOG between them. Truth is I don't know if I've ever seen McDavid so frustrated except maybe after the 3-0 final and the “just not foocking goood enough speech ?"

Ya it's been a pathetic effort across the board. I know we can comeback, but this one feels like it will nearly be impossible. Another 4 goal night at least to win

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843431 is a reply to message #843369 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:33

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It’s not over, till it’s over?!

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843433 is a reply to message #843431 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:44

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A big thanks to Jeff Jackson for letting our developing youth get away in favour of signing players that are too old, too small and too slow to have an impact in the playoffs. A big thanks as well to Stan Bowman for not doing anything to help our goaltending situation at the trade deadline, nor to address the lack of speed that we had in our forward group.

The team that we were frustrated with all year for their inconsistency, lack of effort and speed, and general malaise is the team we are seeing in the playoffs.

It wasn't some sort of elaborate rope a dope strategy. We were just seeing the team that our incredible management had assembled.

Hiring Jeff Jackson to run this franchise was maybe the dumbest move Katz has ever made, during his ownership of the franchise.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843434 is a reply to message #843433 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:45

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HamBlaster wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:44

A big thanks to Jeff Jackson for letting our developing youth get away in favour of signing players that are too old, too small and too slow to have an impact in the playoffs. A big thanks as well to Stan Bowman for not doing anything to help our goaltending situation at the trade deadline, nor to address the lack of speed that we had in our forward group.

The team that we were frustrated with all year for their inconsistency, lack of effort and speed, and general malaise is the team we are seeing in the playoffs.

It wasn't some sort of elaborate rope a dope strategy. We were just seeing the team that our incredible management had assembled.

Was Foegele this good for us? This season has been such a slap in the face about every move we made and didn’t make last summer.

Every guy we discarded. Amazing. Every guy we added, borderline trash. JJ with the reverse Midas touch after his good start with Knob and Mumford seeming to work out perfectly.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843435 is a reply to message #843434 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:47

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 28 April 2025 04:45

HamBlaster wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:44

A big thanks to Jeff Jackson for letting our developing youth get away in favour of signing players that are too old, too small and too slow to have an impact in the playoffs. A big thanks as well to Stan Bowman for not doing anything to help our goaltending situation at the trade deadline, nor to address the lack of speed that we had in our forward group.

The team that we were frustrated with all year for their inconsistency, lack of effort and speed, and general malaise is the team we are seeing in the playoffs.

It wasn't some sort of elaborate rope a dope strategy. We were just seeing the team that our incredible management had assembled.

Was Foegele this good for us? This season has been such a slap in the face about every move we made and didn’t make last summer.

Every guy we discarded. Amazing. Every guy we added, borderline trash.

He is definitely missed. I don't know if he was this good but he is missed and I knew it would hurt us letting him go. With that said I don't know if that is the difference in this game right now

Jesus. Keumper just made a brilliant save. Ugh

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843437 is a reply to message #843435 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:50

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tardigrade81 wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:47

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 28 April 2025 04:45

HamBlaster wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:44

A big thanks to Jeff Jackson for letting our developing youth get away in favour of signing players that are too old, too small and too slow to have an impact in the playoffs. A big thanks as well to Stan Bowman for not doing anything to help our goaltending situation at the trade deadline, nor to address the lack of speed that we had in our forward group.

The team that we were frustrated with all year for their inconsistency, lack of effort and speed, and general malaise is the team we are seeing in the playoffs.

It wasn't some sort of elaborate rope a dope strategy. We were just seeing the team that our incredible management had assembled.

Was Foegele this good for us? This season has been such a slap in the face about every move we made and didn’t make last summer.

Every guy we discarded. Amazing. Every guy we added, borderline trash.

He is definitely missed. I don't know if he was this good but he is missed and I knew it would hurt us letting him go. With that said I don't know if that is the difference in this game right now

Jesus. Keumper just made a brilliant save. Ugh

Team is anti-clutch. 2 inches off the ice exactly where the pad would go. Not close to 5 hole. No chance to go under the pad if any lift. Not high enough to get over the pad. May as well shoot straight until the goalie crest.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843436 is a reply to message #843434 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:49

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Here's the problem with so many players that come to Edmonton. McDavid and Draisaitl are the gods that run the show on the ice, and all the offense goes through them by design. Guys fall into the background due to the coaching strategy of "just give it to Connor and Leon" and they lose their ability and freedom to just try to make things happen themselves. Foegele fell into that trap, like so many others.

The Kings roll four lines and the expectation is that each player tries to make the most of his time on the ice and to work as a team to generate offense and to cover each other on D. You can see it in the way that these two teams play. Everyone on the Oilers roster is just waiting for McDavid or Drai to do something, and the Kings are just lapping them by having all the players rolling. This is why Warren is thriving in this system. He has the free rein to go and try to make things happen himself, and is playing with others that are around his caliber in talent. They feed off of each other, not have their creativity and energy sucked by having these all-consuming talents that the Oilers play in the shadow of.

It took a while for LA to finally build an Oiler-killing squad, however they did it... with help from Jackson and Bowman... but primarily Jackson, and also thanks to Knoblauch for not rocking the boat to make the Oilers play a better team game.

We just need to accept that the franchise has been run by donkeys for too long and that the only GM that had a clue as to how to win (for all his faults, Holland took this team to G7 of the Finals) has ridden off into the sunset. We're back to having donkeys run the show.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843438 is a reply to message #843436 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:53

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Agre d with both of you. All relevant points.

Sadly we are getting some solid goaltending from Pick. 2 of the 3 goals were tough to save. But even that isn't enough. Beyond frustrated

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843439 is a reply to message #843436 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:53

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HamBlaster wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:49

Here's the problem with so many players that come to Edmonton. McDavid and Draisaitl are the gods that run the show on the ice, and all the offense goes through them by design. Guys fall into the background due to the coaching strategy of "just give it to Connor and Leon" and they lose their ability and freedom to just try to make things happen themselves.

The Kings roll four lines and the expectation is that each player tries to make the most of his time on the ice and to work as a team to generate offense and to cover each other on D. You can see it in the way that these two teams play. Everyone on the Oilers roster is just waiting for McDavid or Drai to do something, and the Kings are just lapping them by having all the players rolling.

It took a while for LA to finally build an Oiler-killing squad, however they did it... with help from Jackson and Bowman... but primarily Jackson.

This seems like it would be more coaching philosophy than the fault of those players. Coaches showing by example that they don’t believe in the rest of the lineup and don’t care to ensure everyone is contributing up to their abilities. Maybe it is an easy trap to fall into. We have seen every coach here do it, but we have only hired these nice guy player coaches. McLellan got grumpy but his roster was pretty bad because of Chia by the end.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843440 is a reply to message #843436 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:54

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HamBlaster wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 20:49

Here's the problem with so many players that come to Edmonton. McDavid and Draisaitl are the gods that run the show on the ice, and all the offense goes through them by design. Guys fall into the background due to the coaching strategy of "just give it to Connor and Leon" and they lose their ability and freedom to just try to make things happen themselves. Foegele fell into that trap, like so many others.

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I don't know.. a 40 year old guy scored 21 goals this year with almost no minutes.. nor with 29 or 97.. it can be done.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843441 is a reply to message #843440 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:56

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A 40 year old that was a Hart trophy winner. None of the other guys on this team, outside of Connor and Leon, will ever win that trophy. Perry knows how to play with these guys because he was one of them (not anymore, however still over-productive for his age).

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843442 is a reply to message #843441 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:58

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Thank you Bouch. Come on!!

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843444 is a reply to message #843441 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:59

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Theres Bouchard scoring another big playoff goal.

What a loser.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843443 is a reply to message #843440 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 21:58

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Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 20:54

HamBlaster wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 20:49

Here's the problem with so many players that come to Edmonton. McDavid and Draisaitl are the gods that run the show on the ice, and all the offense goes through them by design. Guys fall into the background due to the coaching strategy of "just give it to Connor and Leon" and they lose their ability and freedom to just try to make things happen themselves. Foegele fell into that trap, like so many others.

.

I don't know.. a 40 year old guy scored 21 goals this year with almost no minutes.. nor with 29 or 97.. it can be done.

Make that 22..

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843446 is a reply to message #843443 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 22:03

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I wish the oilers wouldn't wait 40 mins till they went full playoff mode. It's frustrating. Done it all series

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843449 is a reply to message #843446 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 22:07

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Yep. They cruise and then turn it up like 5 notches on the dial. Why can't you commit to playing like that for more than 10 minutes of a game?

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843447 is a reply to message #843443 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 22:04

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Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 21:58

Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 20:54

HamBlaster wrote on Sun, 27 April 2025 20:49

Here's the problem with so many players that come to Edmonton. McDavid and Draisaitl are the gods that run the show on the ice, and all the offense goes through them by design. Guys fall into the background due to the coaching strategy of "just give it to Connor and Leon" and they lose their ability and freedom to just try to make things happen themselves. Foegele fell into that trap, like so many others.

.

I don't know.. a 40 year old guy scored 21 goals this year with almost no minutes.. nor with 29 or 97.. it can be done.

Make that 22..

Perry is coach immune like Mike Smith was. Just playing for the love of the game, fully aware of his capabilities and sitting on a full career of experiencing almost everything. Wish these guys could rub off on other guys and show them how to just keep on grinding and doing everything they can no matter the situation, but doesn’t really work that way I guess.

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Re: GDT: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #843448 is a reply to message #843369 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 22:06

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Holy hell Kingberg just about ended our night for good

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