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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #841858 is a reply to message #841857 ]	Wed, 19 March 2025 19:58

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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 19 March 2025 17:45

NHL Refereeing

Listened to Seravelli on ON on Monday, he's onboard with the NHL's crap refereeing.. says its a huge problem for the league.

Then you have Friedman on ON Tuesday.. he was asked by Stauffer.. cue Friedman tap dance.. as wishy washy as a wet dish rag on the subject.. scared to express a firm opinion.. doesn't want to risk his SN gig.

Anecdotally..

I watched an NCAA game on the weekend.. Notre Dame vs. Ohio.. (because Oilers had a D-man prospect .. Fisher.. on ND) .. watched the whole game and there was one thing that stood out.. the refereeing was what you expect from a referee.. no game managing .. no score managing.. if there was an infraction it was called.. and I never saw one that was missed or let go to affect score or game "parity"

1. No observable calls missed
2. Every call required similar infraction level (for each team) before it was called ..regardless of the score.. or time of the game.. no "variable" infraction threshold.. .. unlike the NHL's yo-yo standard.
3. Penalty threshold was constant
4. Didn't notice refs
5. Refereeing had no impact on game outcome.

So.. it would appear that consistent.. competent hockey refereeing IS possible.. and could happen in the NHL if it was actually something that was considered a flaw.. instead of a feature.. by the NHL.

Is anything less to be expected when a professional sports league jumps into bed with gamblers?

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #841863 is a reply to message #841858 ]	Thu, 20 March 2025 07:38

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Babaganoosh2.0 wrote on Wed, 19 March 2025 18:58

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 19 March 2025 17:45

NHL Refereeing

Listened to Seravelli on ON on Monday, he's onboard with the NHL's crap refereeing.. says its a huge problem for the league.

Then you have Friedman on ON Tuesday.. he was asked by Stauffer.. cue Friedman tap dance.. as wishy washy as a wet dish rag on the subject.. scared to express a firm opinion.. doesn't want to risk his SN gig.

Anecdotally..

I watched an NCAA game on the weekend.. Notre Dame vs. Ohio.. (because Oilers had a D-man prospect .. Fisher.. on ND) .. watched the whole game and there was one thing that stood out.. the refereeing was what you expect from a referee.. no game managing .. no score managing.. if there was an infraction it was called.. and I never saw one that was missed or let go to affect score or game "parity"

1. No observable calls missed
2. Every call required similar infraction level (for each team) before it was called ..regardless of the score.. or time of the game.. no "variable" infraction threshold.. .. unlike the NHL's yo-yo standard.
3. Penalty threshold was constant
4. Didn't notice refs
5. Refereeing had no impact on game outcome.

So.. it would appear that consistent.. competent hockey refereeing IS possible.. and could happen in the NHL if it was actually something that was considered a flaw.. instead of a feature.. by the NHL.

Is anything less to be expected when a professional sports league jumps into bed with gamblers?

You'd think the NHL would want to be be even more above board with officiating after what happened in the NBA.. anyone watching the average NHL game would not be able to predict what is or is not an infraction.. only thing you can predict is that a penalty will be called, or not called, to manage the game and/or result. The self described "best officials in pro sports" are unable to make consistent calls... maybe it actually is the gambling.. the casinos want the games to be close right up until the end so that more bets are placed.. right up to the final few seconds.. maximizing the bet volume potential of each game.. and casino profit per dollar spent on NHL advertising and partner agreements..

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #841871 is a reply to message #841863 ]	Thu, 20 March 2025 12:26

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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 20 March 2025 07:38

Babaganoosh2.0 wrote on Wed, 19 March 2025 18:58

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 19 March 2025 17:45

NHL Refereeing

Listened to Seravelli on ON on Monday, he's onboard with the NHL's crap refereeing.. says its a huge problem for the league.

Then you have Friedman on ON Tuesday.. he was asked by Stauffer.. cue Friedman tap dance.. as wishy washy as a wet dish rag on the subject.. scared to express a firm opinion.. doesn't want to risk his SN gig.

Anecdotally..

I watched an NCAA game on the weekend.. Notre Dame vs. Ohio.. (because Oilers had a D-man prospect .. Fisher.. on ND) .. watched the whole game and there was one thing that stood out.. the refereeing was what you expect from a referee.. no game managing .. no score managing.. if there was an infraction it was called.. and I never saw one that was missed or let go to affect score or game "parity"

1. No observable calls missed
2. Every call required similar infraction level (for each team) before it was called ..regardless of the score.. or time of the game.. no "variable" infraction threshold.. .. unlike the NHL's yo-yo standard.
3. Penalty threshold was constant
4. Didn't notice refs
5. Refereeing had no impact on game outcome.

So.. it would appear that consistent.. competent hockey refereeing IS possible.. and could happen in the NHL if it was actually something that was considered a flaw.. instead of a feature.. by the NHL.

Is anything less to be expected when a professional sports league jumps into bed with gamblers?

You'd think the NHL would want to be be even more above board with officiating after what happened in the NBA.. anyone watching the average NHL game would not be able to predict what is or is not an infraction.. only thing you can predict is that a penalty will be called, or not called, to manage the game and/or result. The self described "best officials in pro sports" are unable to make consistent calls... maybe it actually is the gambling.. the casinos want the games to be close right up until the end so that more bets are placed.. right up to the final few seconds.. maximizing the bet volume potential of each game.. and casino profit per dollar spent on NHL advertising and partner agreements..

Anytime an environment is created where someone can profit off a sport through gambling, some one or some group ( organized crime, sports books) are going to do everything to take the random chance out of it. This is nothing new. Baseball was almost destroyed by it back in the dead ball era (1900-1920). Seems like you are interested in sports scandals so here are some links for further reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sox_Scandal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Chase
https://jacobpomrenke.com/black-sox/gambling-in-the-deadball -era/
https://jacobpomrenke.com/black-sox/the-whitewashing-of-hal- chase/
https://jacobpomrenke.com/black-sox/1917-fenway-park-gambler s-riot/

As long as enough money is on the line, someone will try to cheat to get an edge. It might be harder to fix now because player salaries are astronomical compared to early athletes so there is less motivation for them to get involved with gamblers.....but the league is involved with sports books and gamblers through advertising revenue. This should not be the case and will eventually lead to people questioning the integrity of the game. That is the biggest danger to any professional sport. Baseball was just lucky enough to have Babe Ruth come around at the right time to get the bad taste out of everyone's mouth.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #841983 is a reply to message #837983 ]	Sun, 23 March 2025 22:41

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Damn, Kings and Knights just won’t lose.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #841984 is a reply to message #841983 ]	Mon, 24 March 2025 07:10

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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 24 March 2025 01:41

Damn, Kings and Knights just won’t lose.

With only one head to head left against Vegas, and both teams with similar strength of schedule left, looking like a 4th straight 1st round matchup with the Kings.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #841986 is a reply to message #841984 ]	Mon, 24 March 2025 09:05

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Mike wrote on Mon, 24 March 2025 07:10

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 24 March 2025 01:41

Damn, Kings and Knights just won’t lose.

With only one head to head left against Vegas, and both teams with similar strength of schedule left, looking like a 4th straight 1st round matchup with the Kings.

At this point, that might be the better scenario than a head-to-head with Vegas in the first round. Maybe the Wild can upset them in Round 1 and give us a bit of an easier path.

We're only 5 points back of Vegas still, so that Feb/March swoon looms large. Could definitely have won the division.

That said, maybe a little adversity is a good thing. Lights a little fire under the team and makes them realize they're still vulnerable so need to bring the A-game...

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842052 is a reply to message #841986 ]	Thu, 27 March 2025 10:33

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Tortorella was canned in Philly. I hope they hire Tocchet and Vancouver hires Torts. Just listening to the athletic podcast on it, I had forgotten Rocky Thompson is their power play coach. What an amazing team. It's really too bad they're not in the Oilers division.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842069 is a reply to message #842052 ]	Thu, 27 March 2025 18:32

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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 27 March 2025 09:33

Tortorella was canned in Philly. I hope they hire Tocchet and Vancouver hires Torts. Just listening to the athletic podcast on it, I had forgotten Rocky Thompson is their power play coach. What an amazing team. It's really too bad they're not in the Oilers division.

Tocchet will be unemployed exactly 1 second if let go by Canucks

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842391 is a reply to message #837983 ]	Wed, 09 April 2025 10:31

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Landeskog is being loaned out to the Av's AHL farm team. He's trying to make a comeback. An interesting story line to follow. It has been over 3 years since he has played a competitive game off hockey and said he will never skate pain free again.

Of note .... I wish Kane would take a conditioning assignment. I thought it would count against our cap if he did this, but because he is on the long-term injured reserve list, he’s eligible to play as many as three games with the Bake-o.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842392 is a reply to message #842391 ]	Wed, 09 April 2025 10:37

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inverno76 wrote on Wed, 09 April 2025 10:31

Landeskog is being loaned out to the Av's AHL farm team. He's trying to make a comeback. An interesting story line to follow. It has been over 3 years since he has played a competitive game off hockey and said he will never skate pain free again.

Of note .... I wish Kane would take a conditioning assignment. I thought it would count against our cap if he did this, but because he is on the long-term injured reserve list, he’s eligible to play as many as three games with the Bake-o.

Wonder if we could LTIR someone else and get Kane a game or 2 now before playoffs in the NHL. Sure a guy like Ekholm could use the rest until playoffs.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842429 is a reply to message #837983 ]	Thu, 10 April 2025 21:48

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Just watching some LA vs Ducks.. in LA.. I can see why their home record is so good.. puck hit by a high stick by a King .. refs don't call it.. then the King shoots it in the net.. Ducks call for the review.. its totally above the cross bar.. even the LA broadcast crew says its high.. NHL calls it a goal..

This is what we will face all playoffs.

OMG.. it gets even more comical.. LOL!.. NHL officiating really is a clown show.. its out-embarrasses itself on a nightly basis.. so the goalie Dostal gets his head knocked sideways on a flyby by Kempe in the crease.. just 1 second before the Kings fire it in the net.. refs don't call the interference.. its clear on the replays.. makes it 5-1 Kings .. refs must be getting paid by the goal! rofl

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The Kings home record is a fraud.

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Re: Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842437 is a reply to message #842429 ]	Fri, 11 April 2025 15:34

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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 10 April 2025 21:48

Just watching some LA vs Ducks.. in LA.. I can see why their home record is so good.. puck hit by a high stick by a King .. refs don't call it.. then the King shoots it in the net.. Ducks call for the review.. its totally above the cross bar.. even the LA broadcast crew says its high.. NHL calls it a goal..

This is what we will face all playoffs.

OMG.. it gets even more comical.. LOL!.. NHL officiating really is a clown show.. its out-embarrasses itself on a nightly basis.. so the goalie Dostal gets his head knocked sideways on a flyby by Kempe in the crease.. just 1 second before the Kings fire it in the net.. refs don't call the interference.. its clear on the replays.. makes it 5-1 Kings .. refs must be getting paid by the goal! rofl

rofl

The Kings home record is a fraud.

I hate conspiracy theories, but sometimes the corruption is real. Not saying it's sports betting, but the officiating has really went sour since it's been introduced.

Or, at least that's my recollection.

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Re: Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842615 is a reply to message #842437 ]	Wed, 16 April 2025 07:21

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With Minny & St Louis both winning last night it's time for the Flames to go join the Canucks on the golf course. What a shame icon_lol

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Re: Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842618 is a reply to message #842615 ]	Wed, 16 April 2025 07:56

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 16 April 2025 07:21

With Minny & St Louis both winning last night it's time for the Flames to go join the Canucks on the golf course. What a shame icon_lol

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Will always enjoy the Lames always trying to stay a mediocre bubble team. Wonder if they can still ride the underdog energy next season after falling short.

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Re: Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842619 is a reply to message #842618 ]	Wed, 16 April 2025 09:30

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With the Avs season done, barring a 22 points performance by Mitch Marner tomorrow against the Wings, Nikita Kucherov will win his 3rd Art Ross trophy, joining a who's who list of 9 other players to win 3 or more.

Gretzky (10), Howe (6), Lemieux (6), Esposito (5), Jagr (5), McDavid (5), Mikita (4), Bobby Hull (3), and Lafleur (3). And now Kucherov. Has to be considered one of the greatest all time steals in entry draft history by now (2nd round, 58th overall)

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Re: Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842622 is a reply to message #842619 ]	Wed, 16 April 2025 10:51

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Mike wrote on Wed, 16 April 2025 09:30

With the Avs season done, barring a 22 points performance by Mitch Marner tomorrow against the Wings, Nikita Kucherov will win his 3rd Art Ross trophy, joining a who's who list of 9 other players to win 3 or more.

Gretzky (10), Howe (6), Lemieux (6), Esposito (5), Jagr (5), McDavid (5), Mikita (4), Bobby Hull (3), and Lafleur (3). And now Kucherov. Has to be considered one of the greatest all time steals in entry draft history by now (2nd round, 58th overall)

I'd really love to see McDavid win another here...probably needs to be in the next year or two. I don't think the list of players winning Art Ross in their 30s is very long...

EDIT: I was curious so I looked it up. Here's that list:

47-48 Elmer Lach, Age 30
48-49 Roy Conacher, 32
62-63 Gordie Howe, 34
72-73 Phil Esposito, 30
73-74 Phil Esposito, 31
90-91 Wayne Gretzky, 29
93-94 Wayne Gretzky, 33
95-96 Mario Lemieux, 30
96-97 Mario Lemieux, 30
10-11 Daniel Sedin, 30
12-13 St Louis, 37 (lockout year)
23-24 Nikita Kucherov, 30
24-25 Nikita Kucherov, 31

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Re: Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842629 is a reply to message #842622 ]	Wed, 16 April 2025 11:45

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Adam wrote on Wed, 16 April 2025 10:51

Mike wrote on Wed, 16 April 2025 09:30

With the Avs season done, barring a 22 points performance by Mitch Marner tomorrow against the Wings, Nikita Kucherov will win his 3rd Art Ross trophy, joining a who's who list of 9 other players to win 3 or more.

Gretzky (10), Howe (6), Lemieux (6), Esposito (5), Jagr (5), McDavid (5), Mikita (4), Bobby Hull (3), and Lafleur (3). And now Kucherov. Has to be considered one of the greatest all time steals in entry draft history by now (2nd round, 58th overall)

I'd really love to see McDavid win another here...probably needs to be in the next year or two. I don't think the list of players winning Art Ross in their 30s is very long...

EDIT: I was curious so I looked it up. Here's that list:

47-48 Elmer Lach, Age 30
48-49 Roy Conacher, 32
62-63 Gordie Howe, 34
72-73 Phil Esposito, 30
73-74 Phil Esposito, 31
90-91 Wayne Gretzky, 29
93-94 Wayne Gretzky, 33
95-96 Mario Lemieux, 30
96-97 Mario Lemieux, 30
10-11 Daniel Sedin, 30
12-13 St Louis, 37 (lockout year)
23-24 Nikita Kucherov, 30
24-25 Nikita Kucherov, 31

My biggest questions from that list: How did Lemieux stay the same age in back-to-back years, while Gretzky aged 4 years in a 3-year span. Did Lemieux steal a year from Gretzky?

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Re: Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842630 is a reply to message #842629 ]	Wed, 16 April 2025 11:51

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benv wrote on Wed, 16 April 2025 11:45

Adam wrote on Wed, 16 April 2025 10:51

Mike wrote on Wed, 16 April 2025 09:30

With the Avs season done, barring a 22 points performance by Mitch Marner tomorrow against the Wings, Nikita Kucherov will win his 3rd Art Ross trophy, joining a who's who list of 9 other players to win 3 or more.

Gretzky (10), Howe (6), Lemieux (6), Esposito (5), Jagr (5), McDavid (5), Mikita (4), Bobby Hull (3), and Lafleur (3). And now Kucherov. Has to be considered one of the greatest all time steals in entry draft history by now (2nd round, 58th overall)

I'd really love to see McDavid win another here...probably needs to be in the next year or two. I don't think the list of players winning Art Ross in their 30s is very long...

EDIT: I was curious so I looked it up. Here's that list:

47-48 Elmer Lach, Age 30
48-49 Roy Conacher, 32
62-63 Gordie Howe, 34
72-73 Phil Esposito, 30
73-74 Phil Esposito, 31
90-91 Wayne Gretzky, 29
93-94 Wayne Gretzky, 33
95-96 Mario Lemieux, 30
96-97 Mario Lemieux, 30
10-11 Daniel Sedin, 30
12-13 St Louis, 37 (lockout year)
23-24 Nikita Kucherov, 30
24-25 Nikita Kucherov, 31

My biggest questions from that list: How did Lemieux stay the same age in back-to-back years, while Gretzky aged 4 years in a 3-year span. Did Lemieux steal a year from Gretzky?

Gretzky also winning one at the age of 29 counting as a win in his 30's is another example of how generational he was icon_wink

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Re: Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842639 is a reply to message #842630 ]	Wed, 16 April 2025 19:08

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 April 2025 11:51

benv wrote on Wed, 16 April 2025 11:45

Adam wrote on Wed, 16 April 2025 10:51

Mike wrote on Wed, 16 April 2025 09:30

With the Avs season done, barring a 22 points performance by Mitch Marner tomorrow against the Wings, Nikita Kucherov will win his 3rd Art Ross trophy, joining a who's who list of 9 other players to win 3 or more.

Gretzky (10), Howe (6), Lemieux (6), Esposito (5), Jagr (5), McDavid (5), Mikita (4), Bobby Hull (3), and Lafleur (3). And now Kucherov. Has to be considered one of the greatest all time steals in entry draft history by now (2nd round, 58th overall)

I'd really love to see McDavid win another here...probably needs to be in the next year or two. I don't think the list of players winning Art Ross in their 30s is very long...

EDIT: I was curious so I looked it up. Here's that list:

47-48 Elmer Lach, Age 30
48-49 Roy Conacher, 32
62-63 Gordie Howe, 34
72-73 Phil Esposito, 30
73-74 Phil Esposito, 31
90-91 Wayne Gretzky, 29
93-94 Wayne Gretzky, 33
95-96 Mario Lemieux, 30
96-97 Mario Lemieux, 30
10-11 Daniel Sedin, 30
12-13 St Louis, 37 (lockout year)
23-24 Nikita Kucherov, 30
24-25 Nikita Kucherov, 31

My biggest questions from that list: How did Lemieux stay the same age in back-to-back years, while Gretzky aged 4 years in a 3-year span. Did Lemieux steal a year from Gretzky?

Gretzky also winning one at the age of 29 counting as a win in his 30's is another example of how generational he was icon_wink

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Sorry to pile on for fun Adam :)

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842677 is a reply to message #837983 ]	Fri, 18 April 2025 15:58

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Tough break for the Flames. 😬

They finish with 96 points — tying the record for the most ever to miss the playoffs

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842680 is a reply to message #842677 ]	Fri, 18 April 2025 18:35

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 18 April 2025 17:58

BarDown @BarDown

Tough break for the Flames. 😬

They finish with 96 points — tying the record for the most ever to miss the playoffs

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2002 was the first season that I really followed the NHL closely as a kid. That year the Oilers missed the playoffs even though they finished 5 points ahead of the Candiens, who finished 17th in the league (the Oilers were 15th. The same thing happened to the Flames this year. I'm not sure what it means, but it must mean something.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842679 is a reply to message #837983 ]	Fri, 18 April 2025 17:15

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I feel like it’s playoff bracket time.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842692 is a reply to message #837983 ]	Sat, 19 April 2025 18:56

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Helly almost gave the first one away but the jets decided to just stop letting the Blues take shots as their solution, lol. Nice comeback win.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842700 is a reply to message #837983 ]	Sun, 20 April 2025 22:50

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No Oilfans playoff bracket pool this year?

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842708 is a reply to message #842700 ]	Mon, 21 April 2025 10:05

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g2k wrote on Sun, 20 April 2025 22:50

No Oilfans playoff bracket pool this year?

I’ve done this the last few years. And I’ll do it here too!! Sorry, been an insanely busy year for me. Comin’ up!!

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842731 is a reply to message #842708 ]	Mon, 21 April 2025 15:18

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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 21 April 2025 10:05

g2k wrote on Sun, 20 April 2025 22:50

No Oilfans playoff bracket pool this year?

I’ve done this the last few years. And I’ll do it here too!! Sorry, been an insanely busy year for me. Comin’ up!!

No worries. Me too. Appreciate!

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842964 is a reply to message #837983 ]	Tue, 22 April 2025 10:11

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So why hasn't Tampa/Florida played a single game yet? Weird to have a bunch of teams done two games and still not a single game in the Sunshine State. Looking at the arena schedule, they didn't have concerts or anything either:

https://www.amaliearena.com/events/calendar

Bizarre.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842965 is a reply to message #842964 ]	Tue, 22 April 2025 10:12

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Adam wrote on Tue, 22 April 2025 10:11

So why hasn't Tampa/Florida played a single game yet? Weird to have a bunch of teams done two games and still not a single game in the Sunshine State. Looking at the arena schedule, they didn't have concerts or anything either:

https://www.amaliearena.com/events/calendar

Bizarre.

The Avs ending their season 2 Sunday's ago was odd too. Dallas had to play 2 more games while the Avs were resting.

This almost lost me my pool cause guy with lots of Avs players got to stack a bunch of extra games. But still won, haha.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #842967 is a reply to message #842964 ]	Tue, 22 April 2025 10:23

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Adam wrote on Tue, 22 April 2025 10:11

So why hasn't Tampa/Florida played a single game yet? Weird to have a bunch of teams done two games and still not a single game in the Sunshine State. Looking at the arena schedule, they didn't have concerts or anything either:

https://www.amaliearena.com/events/calendar

Bizarre.

Ever weirder is the game tonight starts at 8:30 local. Thursday's game? 6:30 local. Saturday at 1.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #843004 is a reply to message #842964 ]	Wed, 23 April 2025 09:49

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Adam wrote on Tue, 22 April 2025 10:11

So why hasn't Tampa/Florida played a single game yet? Weird to have a bunch of teams done two games and still not a single game in the Sunshine State. Looking at the arena schedule, they didn't have concerts or anything either:

https://www.amaliearena.com/events/calendar

Bizarre.

NHL had to give them a couple extra days so that Tkachuk could be ready and cleared for game 1

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #843017 is a reply to message #843004 ]	Wed, 23 April 2025 15:59

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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 08:49

Adam wrote on Tue, 22 April 2025 10:11

So why hasn't Tampa/Florida played a single game yet? Weird to have a bunch of teams done two games and still not a single game in the Sunshine State. Looking at the arena schedule, they didn't have concerts or anything either:

https://www.amaliearena.com/events/calendar

Bizarre.

NHL had to give them a couple extra days so that Tkachuk could be ready and cleared for game 1

LOL! Too true!

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #843172 is a reply to message #837983 ]	Thu, 24 April 2025 15:50

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I'm so annoyed by teams that identify weaknesses and fix them, or even just put an honest effort into fixing them. Blackwood was had for a 2nd round pick in 2026 and a goalie that was playing even worse than Skinner.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #843174 is a reply to message #843172 ]	Thu, 24 April 2025 16:19

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 15:50

I'm so annoyed by teams that identify weaknesses and fix them, or even just put an honest effort into fixing them. Blackwood was had for a 2nd round pick in 2026 and a goalie that was playing even worse than Skinner.

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Let's go down the list:

Blackwood - could have been had for a song. As you say, traded for 2nd rd pick and a crappy goalie.
Markstrom - Oilers tried to get him when he left Vancouver and he chose Calgary instead. Never really heard why.
Logan Thompson - traded last summer for two third round picks.
Stolarz - Oilers had him in the organization but wouldn't really even play him (just 7 games) because they had to prove they'd made the right decision to deal Talbot for him over the guy they just signed (who was struggling mightily). To be fair, his numbers in those 7 games weren't great although he's been pretty darn good ever since.
Kuemper - the Oilers apparently made a play for him when he left Arizona. They didn't try to get him when he left Colorado though after beating the Oilers and winning a Cup.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #843175 is a reply to message #843174 ]	Thu, 24 April 2025 18:47

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Adam wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 16:19

Let's go down the list:

Blackwood - could have been had for a song. As you say, traded for 2nd rd pick and a crappy goalie.
Markstrom - Oilers tried to get him when he left Vancouver and he chose Calgary instead. Never really heard why.
Logan Thompson - traded last summer for two third round picks.
Stolarz - Oilers had him in the organization but wouldn't really even play him (just 7 games) because they had to prove they'd made the right decision to deal Talbot for him over the guy they just signed (who was struggling mightily). To be fair, his numbers in those 7 games weren't great although he's been pretty darn good ever since.
Kuemper - the Oilers apparently made a play for him when he left Arizona. They didn't try to get him when he left Colorado though after beating the Oilers and winning a Cup.

In 2023 Vegas got Hill for a 4th rounder from San Jose because something happened to Robin Lehner. Logan Thompson got hurt as did former Oiler Laurent Broissoit, leaving Hill to beat the Oilers, as our team played hot potato with Campbell and Skinner, on his was to winning a cup. The Knights also picked up Quick that year just for fun.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #843178 is a reply to message #843174 ]	Thu, 24 April 2025 22:06

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Adam wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 15:19

Let's go down the list:

Blackwood - could have been had for a song. As you say, traded for 2nd rd pick and a crappy goalie.
Markstrom - Oilers tried to get him when he left Vancouver and he chose Calgary instead. Never really heard why.
Logan Thompson - traded last summer for two third round picks.
Stolarz - Oilers had him in the organization but wouldn't really even play him (just 7 games) because they had to prove they'd made the right decision to deal Talbot for him over the guy they just signed (who was struggling mightily). To be fair, his numbers in those 7 games weren't great although he's been pretty darn good ever since.
Kuemper - the Oilers apparently made a play for him when he left Arizona. They didn't try to get him when he left Colorado though after beating the Oilers and winning a Cup.

To be fair.. as I recall Stolarz was injured for most of his stay in Bako.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #843185 is a reply to message #843178 ]	Fri, 25 April 2025 10:02

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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 22:06

Adam wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 15:19

Let's go down the list:

Blackwood - could have been had for a song. As you say, traded for 2nd rd pick and a crappy goalie.
Markstrom - Oilers tried to get him when he left Vancouver and he chose Calgary instead. Never really heard why.
Logan Thompson - traded last summer for two third round picks.
Stolarz - Oilers had him in the organization but wouldn't really even play him (just 7 games) because they had to prove they'd made the right decision to deal Talbot for him over the guy they just signed (who was struggling mightily). To be fair, his numbers in those 7 games weren't great although he's been pretty darn good ever since.
Kuemper - the Oilers apparently made a play for him when he left Arizona. They didn't try to get him when he left Colorado though after beating the Oilers and winning a Cup.

To be fair.. as I recall Stolarz was injured for most of his stay in Bako.

I don't think he spent any time down there. We traded Talbot for him so he was our backup. Spent the rest of the year with the Oilers, mostly riding the pine. He got TWO starts in two and a half months (both 3-2 lossees).

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #843196 is a reply to message #837983 ]	Fri, 25 April 2025 11:52

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Re: Markstrom choosing Calgary over Edmonton, it was due to friendships with some on the Flames roster at the time.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #843345 is a reply to message #837983 ]	Sat, 26 April 2025 15:00

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Question: I was watching the Minni vs. VGK game today.. its in in Minni .. I saw a Canadian Tire logo on the ice.. I didn't think they can CGI the in ice logos.. just the boards.. Do they have Canadian Tire in the US?

Answer: Yes they can CGI logos on the ice surface. :)

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #843346 is a reply to message #843345 ]	Sat, 26 April 2025 15:27

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Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 26 April 2025 15:00

Question: I was watching the Minni vs. VGK game today.. its in in Minni .. I saw a Canadian Tire logo on the ice.. I didn't think they can CGI the in ice logos.. just the boards.. Do they have Canadian Tire in the US?

Answer: Yes they can CGI logos on the ice surface. :)

The logos between the blue lines and behind the goal line are real. I was surprised to see a real NDAX logo in Crypto.com Arena but got over it pretty quickly. The logo inside the blue lines are superimposed.

I've found now that they've kind of figured out how to do the CGI boards better than when they were first introduced they've started pushing the boundaries and it has somehow gotten more distracting.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #843350 is a reply to message #843346 ]	Sat, 26 April 2025 17:25

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Noticed in the 4th period of the 4th playoff game after a full season Vegas doesn't have a corporate sponsor on their road jersey.

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Re: 2024-25 OOT Thread... [message #843362 is a reply to message #843350 ]	Sun, 27 April 2025 13:44

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CrusaderPi wrote on Sat, 26 April 2025 16:25

Noticed in the 4th period of the 4th playoff game after a full season Vegas doesn't have a corporate sponsor on their road jersey.

Don't need one.. their sponsors don't need to make themselves known..

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