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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841652 is a reply to message #841642 ]
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Shoulda won IMO. Not because of what happened in the game. Just, shoulda.

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We are a hot mess of inconsistency right. Pathetic crap

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841654 is a reply to message #841642 ]
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And just for lols

https://forums.hfboards.com/attachments/game-thread-edmonton-oilers-37-22-4-at-buffalo-sabres-24-32-v0-lgvsy0d4oyne1-jpeg.991230/

Just a whole night of adventure for Stu tonight. Looked like a guy with a serious inner ear issue tonight just falling to the side every which way.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841655 is a reply to message #841654 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 01:46

And just for lols

https://forums.hfboards.com/attachments/game-thread-edmonton-oilers-37-22-4-at-buffalo-sabres-24-32-v0-lgvsy0d4oyne1-jpeg.991230/

Just a whole night of adventure for Stu tonight. Looked like a guy with a serious inner ear issue tonight just falling to the side every which way.

Lol. Anyone expecting us to win a cup with that. Lol

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tardigrade81 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 19:55



Lol. Anyone expecting us to win a cup with that. Lol


Literally within 2 goals 8 months ago.

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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 20:02

tardigrade81 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 19:55



Lol. Anyone expecting us to win a cup with that. Lol


Literally within 2 goals 8 months ago.


We let a guy and all his friends run this team down the toilet for a decade and a half holding onto a dream of repeating a miracle run.

Hope it happens that we get two once in 3 decade offensive performances from a forward and D to make up for goaltending again this year, and avoid Vegas and Colorado in the West. It's not looking too likely right now.

[Updated on: Mon, 10 March 2025 20:12]

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841658 is a reply to message #841657 ]
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Bouchard single handedly costing us 2 points with a typical piss poor effort on the third goal. When negotiating his next contract and his agent brings up “point comparables” the Oilers mgmt needs to show a clip reel of every defensive miscue and brain dead play he’s made the last couple of years

A dmans #1 job is to play DEFENCE! Puttiing up popcorn numbers on a good PP doesn’t cut it. Shouldn’t get a dime more than $7M/yr IMO and that might be being generous

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Gator21 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 21:51

Bouchard single handedly costing us 2 points with a typical piss poor effort on the third goal. When negotiating his next contract and his agent brings up “point comparables” the Oilers mgmt needs to show a clip reel of every defensive miscue and brain dead play he’s made the last couple of years

A dmans #1 job is to play DEFENCE! Puttiing up popcorn numbers on a good PP doesn’t cut it. Shouldn’t get a dime more than $7M/yr IMO and that might be being generous


He's caught because another oil makes a dumb pass backwards and ends up with 2 of Buffalo's quickest players having a step on him chasing a puck. Gets his stick 2 hand slashed as he tries to play the puck, which probably would have been a penalty if an Oiler did it. Podz lets up skating which costs him being able to be on top of Thompson.


I dunno, I think Bouch was in a tough spot there no matter how you slice it. The real issue on that play was the dumb pass in the offensive end and Podz just quitting. Speaking of Podz, guy has really been lost for a couple months now. Had high hopes for him, but he looks kinda like a version of low confidence Puljujarvi these days. But keeps getting top 6 opportunities.

Not to say Bouch has been great this year. He's still no where near what he showed last playoffs. He's probably trending now towards looking for a 1 or 2 year deal to try again, depending how playoffs go. Could be in trouble if he goes to arbitration because his numbers are still very good to argue with. If he does perform well in playoffs again and we let negotiations drag into the summer, could be looking at a potential fun time with an offersheet again.

[Updated on: Mon, 10 March 2025 22:22]

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841660 is a reply to message #841659 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 22:20

Gator21 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 21:51

Bouchard single handedly costing us 2 points with a typical piss poor effort on the third goal. When negotiating his next contract and his agent brings up “point comparables” the Oilers mgmt needs to show a clip reel of every defensive miscue and brain dead play he’s made the last couple of years

A dmans #1 job is to play DEFENCE! Puttiing up popcorn numbers on a good PP doesn’t cut it. Shouldn’t get a dime more than $7M/yr IMO and that might be being generous


He's caught because another oil makes a dumb pass backwards and ends up with 2 of Buffalo's quickest players having a step on him chasing a puck. Gets his stick 2 hand slashed as he tries to play the puck, which probably would have been a penalty if an Oiler did it. Podz lets up skating which costs him being able to be on top of Thompson.


I dunno, I think Bouch was in a tough spot there no matter how you slice it. The real issue on that play was the dumb pass in the offensive end and Podz just quitting. Speaking of Podz, guy has really been lost for a couple months now. Had high hopes for him, but he looks kinda like a version of low confidence Puljujarvi these days. But keeps getting top 6 opportunities.

Not to say Bouch has been great this year. He's still no where near what he showed last playoffs. He's probably trending now towards looking for a 1 or 2 year deal to try again, depending how playoffs go. Could be in trouble if he goes to arbitration because his numbers are still very good to argue with. If he does perform well in playoffs again and we let negotiations drag into the summer, could be looking at a potential fun time with an offersheet again.


I disagree, rewatching it multiple times…he doesn’t get on his horse getting back - gets beat and then only has one hand on his stick trying to defend. Sure maybe he wasn’t put in the best position but that was a play he should have been able to defend imo

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841661 is a reply to message #841660 ]
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Gator21 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 22:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 22:20

Gator21 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 21:51

Bouchard single handedly costing us 2 points with a typical piss poor effort on the third goal. When negotiating his next contract and his agent brings up “point comparables” the Oilers mgmt needs to show a clip reel of every defensive miscue and brain dead play he’s made the last couple of years

A dmans #1 job is to play DEFENCE! Puttiing up popcorn numbers on a good PP doesn’t cut it. Shouldn’t get a dime more than $7M/yr IMO and that might be being generous


He's caught because another oil makes a dumb pass backwards and ends up with 2 of Buffalo's quickest players having a step on him chasing a puck. Gets his stick 2 hand slashed as he tries to play the puck, which probably would have been a penalty if an Oiler did it. Podz lets up skating which costs him being able to be on top of Thompson.


I dunno, I think Bouch was in a tough spot there no matter how you slice it. The real issue on that play was the dumb pass in the offensive end and Podz just quitting. Speaking of Podz, guy has really been lost for a couple months now. Had high hopes for him, but he looks kinda like a version of low confidence Puljujarvi these days. But keeps getting top 6 opportunities.

Not to say Bouch has been great this year. He's still no where near what he showed last playoffs. He's probably trending now towards looking for a 1 or 2 year deal to try again, depending how playoffs go. Could be in trouble if he goes to arbitration because his numbers are still very good to argue with. If he does perform well in playoffs again and we let negotiations drag into the summer, could be looking at a potential fun time with an offersheet again.


I disagree, rewatching it multiple times…he doesn’t get on his horse getting back - gets beat and then only has one hand on his stick trying to defend. Sure maybe he wasn’t put in the best position but that was a play he should have been able to defend imo


I think that's how fast Bouch skates from a stand still, he's not the best skater. Norris and Thompson are definitely better skaters than him and they took off first to more easily make up the distance.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841662 is a reply to message #841661 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 22:26

Gator21 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 22:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 22:20

Gator21 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 21:51

Bouchard single handedly costing us 2 points with a typical piss poor effort on the third goal. When negotiating his next contract and his agent brings up “point comparables” the Oilers mgmt needs to show a clip reel of every defensive miscue and brain dead play he’s made the last couple of years

A dmans #1 job is to play DEFENCE! Puttiing up popcorn numbers on a good PP doesn’t cut it. Shouldn’t get a dime more than $7M/yr IMO and that might be being generous


He's caught because another oil makes a dumb pass backwards and ends up with 2 of Buffalo's quickest players having a step on him chasing a puck. Gets his stick 2 hand slashed as he tries to play the puck, which probably would have been a penalty if an Oiler did it. Podz lets up skating which costs him being able to be on top of Thompson.


I dunno, I think Bouch was in a tough spot there no matter how you slice it. The real issue on that play was the dumb pass in the offensive end and Podz just quitting. Speaking of Podz, guy has really been lost for a couple months now. Had high hopes for him, but he looks kinda like a version of low confidence Puljujarvi these days. But keeps getting top 6 opportunities.

Not to say Bouch has been great this year. He's still no where near what he showed last playoffs. He's probably trending now towards looking for a 1 or 2 year deal to try again, depending how playoffs go. Could be in trouble if he goes to arbitration because his numbers are still very good to argue with. If he does perform well in playoffs again and we let negotiations drag into the summer, could be looking at a potential fun time with an offersheet again.


I disagree, rewatching it multiple times…he doesn’t get on his horse getting back - gets beat and then only has one hand on his stick trying to defend. Sure maybe he wasn’t put in the best position but that was a play he should have been able to defend imo


I think that's how fast Bouch skates from a stand still, he's not the best skater. Norris and Thompson are definitely better skaters than him and they took off first to more easily make up the distance.


Watched it again. Thompson actually hits Bouch's hand from below with his stick first, which screws him up off the bat. Then Norris 2-hand slashes down on his stick to mess him up even more. The slash rides up Bouch's stick and hits his other hand up. He has both hands on his stick to try to play it, but the slash makes him miss the puck. Honestly, there were 2 penalties by those guys on that play on Bouch, but refs not interested.

[Updated on: Mon, 10 March 2025 22:30]

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841664 is a reply to message #841660 ]
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Gator21 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 21:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 22:20

Gator21 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 21:51

Bouchard single handedly costing us 2 points with a typical piss poor effort on the third goal. When negotiating his next contract and his agent brings up “point comparables” the Oilers mgmt needs to show a clip reel of every defensive miscue and brain dead play he’s made the last couple of years

A dmans #1 job is to play DEFENCE! Puttiing up popcorn numbers on a good PP doesn’t cut it. Shouldn’t get a dime more than $7M/yr IMO and that might be being generous


He's caught because another oil makes a dumb pass backwards and ends up with 2 of Buffalo's quickest players having a step on him chasing a puck. Gets his stick 2 hand slashed as he tries to play the puck, which probably would have been a penalty if an Oiler did it. Podz lets up skating which costs him being able to be on top of Thompson.


I dunno, I think Bouch was in a tough spot there no matter how you slice it. The real issue on that play was the dumb pass in the offensive end and Podz just quitting. Speaking of Podz, guy has really been lost for a couple months now. Had high hopes for him, but he looks kinda like a version of low confidence Puljujarvi these days. But keeps getting top 6 opportunities.

Not to say Bouch has been great this year. He's still no where near what he showed last playoffs. He's probably trending now towards looking for a 1 or 2 year deal to try again, depending how playoffs go. Could be in trouble if he goes to arbitration because his numbers are still very good to argue with. If he does perform well in playoffs again and we let negotiations drag into the summer, could be looking at a potential fun time with an offersheet again.


I disagree, rewatching it multiple times…he doesn’t get on his horse getting back - gets beat and then only has one hand on his stick trying to defend. Sure maybe he wasn’t put in the best position but that was a play he should have been able to defend imo


Agree. Too weak on the stick.. always. He's not the only one on the team that is.. but he's the one looking at asking for $9M+ on his next contract.. for one PP goal on his season resume.

He had some poor reads all night.. this was the one that cost a goal/game.

Podkolzin, Arvidsson, Henrique, Brown, Janmark, RNH, J Skinner .. all too quiet.. very little contribution all around.

I won't mention goaltending.. IIWII

[Updated on: Mon, 10 March 2025 23:44]

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After watching the Dallas game and thinking we looked like we were starting to figure things out again, this was the other side of the coin.

At times they looked like 10 or 11 year olds playing on the pond, passes going astray, puck never under control, when under control losing control softly. The two best players trying to be to fancy and show off and getting nothing right.

All 3 goals were preventable, all 3 fingers can be pointed at individuals, individuals who have been pointed at multiple times, BUT the thing that meant that I slept OK we hit the post 4 times. None were saved and hit the post, not were tipped, just straight post. How many games do you hit the post 4 times? Not many, after that first period it felt like one of those games where they wouldn't score, but we did, and then hit the post again.

Mistakes cost us goals against, but we were centimetre's away a convincing win I and most thought we'd have. I'd mark this game as one of those games.


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Bouchard is a useless defenceman.. PP specialist.. except he can't figure out to score pp goals.. 1 PP goal all season playing with Leon and McDavid..

Happy they never signed him last summer.. wudda been a boat anchor.⚓

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Ullmark was simply incredible for Ottawa last night. Wish Edmonton had someone even half that good

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tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 08:56

Ullmark was simply incredible for Ottawa last night. Wish Edmonton had someone even half that good


I don't like goalies that don't end up flat on their face on every save attempt that requires them to move their legs. Makes it look like they're not trying hard enough.

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tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 08:56

Ullmark was simply incredible for Ottawa last night. Wish Edmonton had someone even half that good


UPL! Ullmark plays in Ottawa.

But same difference. And Tage always lights us up. It's annoying.

There's been a lot of losses the last while - 5-9-0 in our last 14 but the ones against the Ducks, Flyers and Sabres loom large. Those should be almost guaranteed wins for this team. Notable is that we needed OT for 3 of the five wins too, so teams playing against us have gone 9-2-3 in the last 14.

I think a little adversity is generally a good thing for a team to go through - but I'm a little concerned about whether we have the horses this year. Will basically need our top guys to go nuclear again to have a chance...and get a little bit of goaltending.

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Adam wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 11:23

tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 08:56

Ullmark was simply incredible for Ottawa last night. Wish Edmonton had someone even half that good

Will basically need our top guys to go nuclear again to have a chance...and get a little bit of goaltending.

Other teams know this and they know that the precedent has been set on how to stop them. I wonder what the over/under would be for combined broken bones for 29 and 97 after the first round? Maybe 2.5 - about the same for Skinner pulls.

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The Edmonton Oilers have a muffin problem and it is almost assuredly a coached in and ineffective tactic.

All stats at 5v5 for defensemen:

Shots: 601 (next closest 544, average 430)
Goals: 24 (average 20.4)
S%: 3.99 (7th worst, average 4.73)


Interesting tweet from today. Definitely an issue - I hate the long weak point shot, especially unscreened. Nurse has been bad for this forever, and Ekholm wastes quite a few too. It does explain why we have so many games where we make the goalie look like superman...he's saving a lot of shots, but many lack quality.

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Adam wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 13:00

Quote:

PDOKing
@Kinger999

The Edmonton Oilers have a muffin problem and it is almost assuredly a coached in and ineffective tactic.

All stats at 5v5 for defensemen:

Shots: 601 (next closest 544, average 430)
Goals: 24 (average 20.4)
S%: 3.99 (7th worst, average 4.73)


Interesting tweet from today. Definitely an issue - I hate the long weak point shot, especially unscreened. Nurse has been bad for this forever, and Ekholm wastes quite a few too. It does explain why we have so many games where we make the goalie look like superman...he's saving a lot of shots, but many lack quality.


LOL yeah Nurse is the worst.. its like he can't think of anything else to do with the puck.. goalie top of his crease looking at him.. no traffic in front.. weak muffin that either; 1) misses the net, or 2) sifts right into the goalie's bread basket .. either way its a turnover.

You'd think with such a weak shot the guy would practice in the off season.. like 500 shots a day.. until he improves.. never happens.

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