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https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/panthers-aaron-ekblad-s uspended-20-games-for-ped-program-violation/

“Ultimately, I made a mistake by taking something to help me recover from recent injuries without first checking with proper medical and team personnel,” Ekblad said. "I have let my teammates, the Panthers organization and our great fans down. For that, I am truly sorry. I have accepted responsibility for my mistake and will be fully prepared to return to my team when my suspension is over. I have learned a hard lesson and cannot wait to be back with my teammates.”


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Last player to be suspended, Nate Schmidt in 2018 on Las Vegas. S
Where is Schmidt now? Florida with Ekblad.

When did Florida know? We don't know, but they picked up Seth Jones at the trade deadline.

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 Re: Ekblad Suspended 20 Games - PED Violation [message #841665 is a reply to message #841625 ]
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bigEfromGP wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 15:46

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/panthers-aaron-ekblad-s uspended-20-games-for-ped-program-violation/

“Ultimately, I made a mistake by taking something to help me recover from recent injuries without first checking with proper medical and team personnel,” Ekblad said. "I have let my teammates, the Panthers organization and our great fans down. For that, I am truly sorry. I have accepted responsibility for my mistake and will be fully prepared to return to my team when my suspension is over. I have learned a hard lesson and cannot wait to be back with my teammates.”


EDIT:

Last player to be suspended, Nate Schmidt in 2018 on Las Vegas. S
Where is Schmidt now? Florida with Ekblad.

When did Florida know? We don't know, but they picked up Seth Jones at the trade deadline.




Miracle the NHL actually caught someone, must have been a fluke. The fact the last guy was Schmidt 7 years ago tells you the NHL isn't trying very hard.. or takes it's testing seriously.. there's a lot of guys doing it.. when ever multi-million dollar contracts are up for grabs there will be PEDs involved.. even age-group amateur athletes take them .. for meaningless trophies and accolades.
NHL knows that its ripe with PEDs.. but don't want to spoil the "brand" .. i.e. the miraculous "age-less" Great 8 lol !

Oh, and Ekblad with the classic excuse.. lol .. "I took it to help recover from an injury" (because it has a better ring than the real reason.. performance enhancement) .. its the same tactic used when celebrities, or pro athletes, get caught for drug possession.. "I got addicted while taking prescription drugs for pain/illness" .. "wasn't my fault.. it just happened"

Its the first lesson in "Spin Doctoring 101"

Ekblad took it for performance enhancement, they all do.
Cheating other players, and teams for a contract or trophy..

Ekblad has most certainly been on them for a while, including last years playoffs.. he should be removed for the entire playoffs not just 20 games.. his entire season is tainted.. so is his team's.
In the Olympics in a team sport.. if team member pops for PEDs .. the entire team loses its medal/standing.. should be more consequence than just to the individual player in the NHL.. the team benefited from his PE for 75% of the season..



My Opinion..

NEW RULE: When a player pops for PEDs like Ekblad.. his entire team should be then tested en masse .. to ensure "player safety" of course.. ;)

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 Re: Ekblad Suspended 20 Games - PED Violation [message #841668 is a reply to message #841665 ]
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Anyone check the helmet size of the soon to be greatest goal scorer of all time recently?

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Didn't know the in-season PED punishment was only 20 games. Guess that's a CBA thing so hard to change, but should be for the season IMO. Getting rest until playoffs is not much of a punishment.

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 Re: Ekblad Suspended 20 Games - PED Violation [message #841674 is a reply to message #841668 ]
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Jay wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 10:54

Anyone check the helmet size of the soon to be greatest goal scorer of all time recently?


Yeah...don't care if he ends up with more goals, I still don't see him as the "greatest" goal scorer.

People say there was way more scoring in the 80s, but Gretzky was simply on a different level. His 92 goal season was 28 more than second place. His 87 goal season was 31 better than second. In the 4 years from 81-82 to 84-85, 99 put up an eye popping 323 goals in 314 GP. Nobody was close (Bossy 2nd with 233). An AVERAGE of 80.75 goals per season. 1.03 per game!

OV's best season of 65 goals was only 13 better than the next guy. His best 4 year stretch was early in his career when he put up 217 goals in 315 games. 54.25 per season, .69GPG.


Funny enough, the last 4 years as a late 30.s man, he's having almost a career high GPG. He's at .56GPG over the last 4 years (ages 35-39). He was at .54 in his late 20's (25-29).

The guy will have almost as many goals in his 30s as in his 20s - 475 goals, 0.63GPG in his 20s. 411 goals and counting, 0.58GPG in his 30s). To me, he's just a better Mike Gartner with a never before seen late 30s surge. I'm sure there's nothing to see there.

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 Re: Ekblad Suspended 20 Games - PED Violation [message #841675 is a reply to message #841674 ]
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Mike wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 09:18

Jay wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 10:54

Anyone check the helmet size of the soon to be greatest goal scorer of all time recently?

Funny enough, the last 4 years as a late 30.s man, he's having almost a career high GPG. He's at .56GPG over the last 4 years (ages 35-39). He was at .54 in his late 20's (25-29).

The guy will have almost as many goals in his 30s as in his 20s - 475 goals, 0.63GPG in his 20s. 411 goals and counting, 0.58GPG in his 30s). To me, he's just a better Mike Gartner with a never before seen late 30s surge. I'm sure there's nothing to see there.

Coming off a broken leg too..at 39. And he looks like a bobblehead. Definitely nothing to see here.

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 Re: Ekblad Suspended 20 Games - PED Violation [message #841692 is a reply to message #841675 ]
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Jay wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 09:44

Mike wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 09:18

Jay wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 10:54

Anyone check the helmet size of the soon to be greatest goal scorer of all time recently?

Funny enough, the last 4 years as a late 30.s man, he's having almost a career high GPG. He's at .56GPG over the last 4 years (ages 35-39). He was at .54 in his late 20's (25-29).

The guy will have almost as many goals in his 30s as in his 20s - 475 goals, 0.63GPG in his 20s. 411 goals and counting, 0.58GPG in his 30s). To me, he's just a better Mike Gartner with a never before seen late 30s surge. I'm sure there's nothing to see there.

Coming off a broken leg too..at 39. And he looks like a bobblehead. Definitely nothing to see here.

My Dad broke his hip at 54. Was in the hospital 2 days, on crutches for two weeks and after a month working like nothing happened. Some people just heal fast.

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 Re: Ekblad Suspended 20 Games - PED Violation [message #841685 is a reply to message #841674 ]
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Mike wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 09:18

Jay wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 10:54

Anyone check the helmet size of the soon to be greatest goal scorer of all time recently?


Yeah...don't care if he ends up with more goals, I still don't see him as the "greatest" goal scorer.

People say there was way more scoring in the 80s, but Gretzky was simply on a different level. His 92 goal season was 28 more than second place. His 87 goal season was 31 better than second. In the 4 years from 81-82 to 84-85, 99 put up an eye popping 323 goals in 314 GP. Nobody was close (Bossy 2nd with 233). An AVERAGE of 80.75 goals per season. 1.03 per game!

OV's best season of 65 goals was only 13 better than the next guy. His best 4 year stretch was early in his career when he put up 217 goals in 315 games. 54.25 per season, .69GPG.


Funny enough, the last 4 years as a late 30.s man, he's having almost a career high GPG. He's at .56GPG over the last 4 years (ages 35-39). He was at .54 in his late 20's (25-29).

The guy will have almost as many goals in his 30s as in his 20s - 475 goals, 0.63GPG in his 20s. 411 goals and counting, 0.58GPG in his 30s). To me, he's just a better Mike Gartner with a never before seen late 30s surge. I'm sure there's nothing to see there.


He would have broken Gretzky's record 4 years ago if it wasn't for games lost to lockouts/ strikes and Covid. Probably be pushing close to 1000 by now if not more.


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Babaganoosh2.0 wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 13:10

Mike wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 09:18

Jay wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 10:54

Anyone check the helmet size of the soon to be greatest goal scorer of all time recently?


Yeah...don't care if he ends up with more goals, I still don't see him as the "greatest" goal scorer.

People say there was way more scoring in the 80s, but Gretzky was simply on a different level. His 92 goal season was 28 more than second place. His 87 goal season was 31 better than second. In the 4 years from 81-82 to 84-85, 99 put up an eye popping 323 goals in 314 GP. Nobody was close (Bossy 2nd with 233). An AVERAGE of 80.75 goals per season. 1.03 per game!

OV's best season of 65 goals was only 13 better than the next guy. His best 4 year stretch was early in his career when he put up 217 goals in 315 games. 54.25 per season, .69GPG.


Funny enough, the last 4 years as a late 30.s man, he's having almost a career high GPG. He's at .56GPG over the last 4 years (ages 35-39). He was at .54 in his late 20's (25-29).

The guy will have almost as many goals in his 30s as in his 20s - 475 goals, 0.63GPG in his 20s. 411 goals and counting, 0.58GPG in his 30s). To me, he's just a better Mike Gartner with a never before seen late 30s surge. I'm sure there's nothing to see there.


He would have broken Gretzky's record 4 years ago if it wasn't for games lost to lockouts/ strikes and Covid. Probably be pushing close to 1000 by now if not more.



Easy to do that for any player though - just project what they COULD have done if not for what actually happened. Gretzky also had a lockout wipe out half a season (same as OV) and he missed almost a full year due to that Gary Suter's cheap hit in the 1991 Canada Cup. He also wasn't a raging dope fiend with the full power of the Russian Olympic program behind him helping him cheat and get away with it.

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 Re: Ekblad Suspended 20 Games - PED Violation [message #841691 is a reply to message #841690 ]
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Adam wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 13:39

Babaganoosh2.0 wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 13:10

Mike wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 09:18

Jay wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 10:54

Anyone check the helmet size of the soon to be greatest goal scorer of all time recently?


Yeah...don't care if he ends up with more goals, I still don't see him as the "greatest" goal scorer.

People say there was way more scoring in the 80s, but Gretzky was simply on a different level. His 92 goal season was 28 more than second place. His 87 goal season was 31 better than second. In the 4 years from 81-82 to 84-85, 99 put up an eye popping 323 goals in 314 GP. Nobody was close (Bossy 2nd with 233). An AVERAGE of 80.75 goals per season. 1.03 per game!

OV's best season of 65 goals was only 13 better than the next guy. His best 4 year stretch was early in his career when he put up 217 goals in 315 games. 54.25 per season, .69GPG.


Funny enough, the last 4 years as a late 30.s man, he's having almost a career high GPG. He's at .56GPG over the last 4 years (ages 35-39). He was at .54 in his late 20's (25-29).

The guy will have almost as many goals in his 30s as in his 20s - 475 goals, 0.63GPG in his 20s. 411 goals and counting, 0.58GPG in his 30s). To me, he's just a better Mike Gartner with a never before seen late 30s surge. I'm sure there's nothing to see there.


He would have broken Gretzky's record 4 years ago if it wasn't for games lost to lockouts/ strikes and Covid. Probably be pushing close to 1000 by now if not more.



Easy to do that for any player though - just project what they COULD have done if not for what actually happened. Gretzky also had a lockout wipe out half a season (same as OV) and he missed almost a full year due to that Gary Suter's cheap hit in the 1991 Canada Cup. He also wasn't a raging dope fiend with the full power of the Russian Olympic program behind him helping him cheat and get away with it.
First of all there is no evidence Ovechkin is a raging dope fiend. I guess Selanne was too considering his play past the age of 40. Just google Ovechkin with no shirt. Looks like he has more a pizza issue then a steroid issue.

Besides you cant prove Gretzky wasn't doped either. He played in a era where steroids were legal with a doctors prescription and no one really tested for them. Besides half of society was on blow during his prime.


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Adam wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 12:39

..Easy to do that for any player though - just project what they COULD have done if not for what actually happened. Gretzky also had a lockout wipe out half a season (same as OV) and he missed almost a full year due to that Gary Suter's cheap hit in the 1991 Canada Cup. He also wasn't a raging dope fiend with the full power of the Russian Olympic program behind him helping him cheat and get away with it.


Now you have a PED head breaking the all time great's record.. I doubt Gretzky ever saw the inside of a weight room in his life.. and if any drugs were involved with Wayne, they most likely were of the performance diminishing variety.. PDD's .. lol

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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 16:39

Adam wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 12:39

..Easy to do that for any player though - just project what they COULD have done if not for what actually happened. Gretzky also had a lockout wipe out half a season (same as OV) and he missed almost a full year due to that Gary Suter's cheap hit in the 1991 Canada Cup. He also wasn't a raging dope fiend with the full power of the Russian Olympic program behind him helping him cheat and get away with it.


Now you have a PED head breaking the all time great's record.. I doubt Gretzky ever saw the inside of a weight room in his life.. and if any drugs were involved with Wayne, they most likely were of the performance diminishing variety.. PDD's .. lol



I dont know. Being so alert you can hear a fly fart at 4 blocks away must enhance play a little. Fuhr could probably read the commissioners signature on the pucks coming at him. Sounds like doping must be wide spread if that's the NHLs drug testing policy. Which begs the question, "if everyone is doing it is anyone really cheating".

I had friend in competitive body building in the late 80's. Everyone was on the juice. In his words only a fool would be caught by a surprise test and only a complete moron would fail an announced test. The knowledge he had about biology he could have been a chemist for knowing how to mask and hide things. They would even catheter clean piss into their bladders to pass a test. I dont see how the NHL could test anymore then they do without the NHLPA crying foul about it to be honest. I don't think it would matter because pro athletes can afford people with knowledge how to hide the crime. Hell 300 pound freaks of nature hammering pucks through the boards would probably raise ratings.

All that said these drugs do nothing to help with eye hand coordination, positioning, hockey sense or many of the other skills that make a elite scorer.

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Jay wrote on Tue, 11 March 2025 06:54

Anyone check the helmet size of the soon to be greatest goal scorer of all time recently?


Man its so obvious.. he's likely been on every PED there is.. from steroids (strength) to EPO (endurance).. the Capitals were linked to a major pro-sports PED supplier/doctor a few years ago (2010).. (the PED supplier was based out of Florida.. same as Ekblad's .. weird) .. The PED supplier (Thomas) was based in Florida.. he got caught.. one of the clients he supplied was a Capitals chiropractor Dr. Nagel.. supplier said athletes he provided PEDs to included Capitals players..

NHL didn't do an investigation.. although they said they did..

Quote:

..The latest news in this story involved the arrest of Douglas Nagel, a Virginia chiropractor who has treated Capitals players. Both the NHL and the team claimed there had been "no evidence that Dr. Nagel ever supplied (or even offered to supply) performance enhancing drugs to any current or past member of the Washington Capitals" based on the "thorough investigation" carried out to prove such a thing.

David Epstein of SI uncovered an email sent internally in the Polk County Sheriff's Tactical Drug Unit on April 7, in which NHL executive vice president of security Dennis Cunningham admitted that "no investigation was ever conducted into Dr. Nagel and his ties to steroids and Capitals players by anyone with the NHL."

The same email reported that Capitals assistant general manager and director of legal affairs Don Fishman told Ian Floyd of the Polk County Sheriff's office that the team hadn't conducted an investigation, but the NHL and Cunningham had ... which they hadn't. Capitals spokesman Kurt Kehl told SI that the team conducted a "brief investigation, but the more extensive investigation was led by the NHL and Dennis Cunningham." So not so thorough.

Meanwhile, the SI piece did offer a bit of guilt-by-association reporting on Nagel's steroid distribution:

"But unlike MLB or the NFL, the NHL does not test during the off-season, nor once the playoffs have started. (This week the Capitals are facing the Canadiens in an Eastern Conference quarterfinal series.) Polk County officials noticed that of the 10 FedEx and U.S. Postal Service labels for packages mailed in 2008 and '09 between Thomas and Nagel that law enforcement officials obtained in their investigation, eight are dated during the period when the Capitals were either in the playoffs or out of season, and one was dated the day before the end of the 2007-08 season."

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/sports-illustr ated-pulls-back-rug-nhl-steroid-investigations--nhl.html


Quote:

Caps: Steroid investigation not a distraction
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/capitals-steroid-investi gation/


Quote:

Sports Illustrated pulls back rug on NHL steroid investigations
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/sports-illustr ated-pulls-back-rug-nhl-steroid-investigations--nhl.html


Quote:

Capitals claim steroid tale without merit; NHL investigates
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/puckd-capitals-cla im-steroid-tale-without-merit-nhl-investigates/2106293/


Quote:

NHL, Capitals skeptical of steroid report
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl-capitals-skeptical-of-s teroid-report-1.832855


Quote:

Capitals, NHL’s handling of steroid investigation questioned
The National Hockey League and the Washington Capitals are being called into question in a Sports Illustrated article regarding a possible coverup of a narcotics investigation.
https://nationalpost.com/sports/capitals-nhls-handling-of-st eroid-investigation-questioned



Interestingly.. after the 2010 investigation Ovie went a couple years where his goals/points declined.. after the 2009/2010 season he went from 50+ goals a year to just 32G (2010/2011) and 38G (2011/2012) ??

Then .. "rebounded!" in 2012/2013 (after spending time in Russia playing in the KHL.. ).. where he "found his form again" .. ;)
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=63735

Today he garners comments like: ".. at 40 he just gets better..".. he's like a fine wine" .. "..he's ageless"..

Keep in mind Russia is the doping nation of all time (OK maybe CCP China is catching up).. currently banned from Olympics (based on Sochi Dope Lab scheme) and every major international sports federation because of it.. nothin' to see hear folks.. move along..


NHL should have targeted him for testing every year after that.. doubt they even include him in testing now.. afraid he'd pop (in fact they know he would).. it'd ruin the NHL brand.. plus Ovie is an NHL promotional feature now.. he's pretty safe.. a made man.

Similar thing happened with Lance Armstrong.. everyone in the sport knew he was cranking his brains out (literally).. more than anyone else.. but the governing sports body knew that having a US cycling star brought them millions in revenue.. which it did.. more than they could have even imagined.. they never even broadcast the Tour de France in North America live until Armstrong was winning.. now they've stopped any North America coverage altogether (except pay for view) and cycling is a tertiary sport again here. The UCI (cycling governing body) even covered up the tests that Armstrong popped positive on.. its all described in Armstrong's teammate Tyler Hamilton's book. Armstrong was gross.

Armstrong would have likely got away with it.. but he got greedy.. (couldn't help it.. he's an A-class narcisistic sociopath) came back out of retirement for more.. finally got popped.. lost all 7 Tour de France titles. Douche bag.

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This is an article by Emily Kaplan, she describes current NHL testing.. easy to beat. Nothing meaningful off-season.
A maximum of 60 players total can be tested league wide during off season.. and players on a team are only tested twice.. once in camp.. once during regular season.
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/25317435/why-there-more- ped-cases-nhl
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... The NHL's testing for performance-enhancing drugs slightly beefed up what was in the prior CBA; the new edict allowed for testing in the playoffs and offseason, though in a limited capacity. A maximum of 60 players are tested in the offseason, and they are selected randomly.

Every team is subject to teamwide, no-notice testing once during training camp and once during the regular season. Individual players can be selected for random testing during the regular season and playoffs. Any time the testing takes place, it must be done "at work on the day of a scheduled practice or meeting." Testing does not occur on game days.

An official from another sports-governing association who works closely with the drug policy reviewed the NHL's guidelines and said, "Trust me, if a guy is using, he can slip through the cracks. Easy. It's the unlucky or truly careless guys that get caught."

Adds Yesalis, who has served as a consultant to (among others) the U.S. Office of National Drug Control Policy, U.S. Senate Judiciary and Committees, the NFLPA, the USOC and NCAA: "Combine the availability of these drugs with the loopholes in testing -- the loopholes are so big, I could drive an M1 Abrams Tank through it, in the total darkness, without night vision on, and not scrape it. There is no suspicion among fans. Drug testing is a facade, it's only to keep politicians away, and give fans plausible deniability. They think their sport idols, the guys and gals they really like to watch perform, are naturally big and fast and strong. Frankly, I don't know if fans do care if they dope, they just don't want it shoved into their face."

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