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 Pregame: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841598]
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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841600 is a reply to message #841598 ]
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I’m probably crazy to think we SHOULD win this game. We really should though.

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841602 is a reply to message #841600 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 08:43

I’m probably crazy to think we SHOULD win this game. We really should though.

The Buffalo franchise makes me sad. I've been hoping they were just about to turn the corner for 5 years now and somehow it keeps getting worse.

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841604 is a reply to message #841602 ]
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Should be an easy win but it's the oilers so who knows

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841605 is a reply to message #841602 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 08:56

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 08:43

I’m probably crazy to think we SHOULD win this game. We really should though.

The Buffalo franchise makes me sad. I've been hoping they were just about to turn the corner for 5 years now and somehow it keeps getting worse.


This is why you never should make your waterboy the GM. He has no idea what he's doing and he just fumbles from one mistake to the next.

I spoke about the strange decisions relative to Zucker and Norris/Cozens, but I didn't even realize at that point A) the monster contract they'd given Cozens that he's under-performing badly on. H He got 7x7.1MM, signed in Feb 2023. Cozens was 2/3rds of the way through his third season and it looked like a breakout one as he'd finish with 31-37-68.

But in dealing him, they get back an even worse contract with Josh Norris! Coming off a 55-point season (in just 66 games), Norris signed for 8x7.95MM in the summer of 2022. The contracts run to the same end date, with Norris more expensive, also always underperforming relative to his deal and having never played a full season in his entire career due to injury - including playing only 8 games the year after he signed that contract.

Somehow, they managed to get less cap space and give up an extra draft pick for a more brittle player who's performing at the same level. It's pretty incredible actually.

That said, the Sabres, despite all their challenges, seem to bring their best against us. Tage Thompson always seems to be a thorn in our side. Hopefully, we can just brush them aside tonight. It's embarrassing when they beat us.

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841613 is a reply to message #841605 ]
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Adam wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 08:24

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 08:56

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 08:43

I’m probably crazy to think we SHOULD win this game. We really should though.

The Buffalo franchise makes me sad. I've been hoping they were just about to turn the corner for 5 years now and somehow it keeps getting worse.


This is why you never should make your waterboy the GM. He has no idea what he's doing and he just fumbles from one mistake to the next.

I spoke about the strange decisions relative to Zucker and Norris/Cozens, but I didn't even realize at that point A) the monster contract they'd given Cozens that he's under-performing badly on. H He got 7x7.1MM, signed in Feb 2023. Cozens was 2/3rds of the way through his third season and it looked like a breakout one as he'd finish with 31-37-68.

But in dealing him, they get back an even worse contract with Josh Norris! Coming off a 55-point season (in just 66 games), Norris signed for 8x7.95MM in the summer of 2022. The contracts run to the same end date, with Norris more expensive, also always underperforming relative to his deal and having never played a full season in his entire career due to injury - including playing only 8 games the year after he signed that contract.

Somehow, they managed to get less cap space and give up an extra draft pick for a more brittle player who's performing at the same level. It's pretty incredible actually.

That said, the Sabres, despite all their challenges, seem to bring their best against us. Tage Thompson always seems to be a thorn in our side. Hopefully, we can just brush them aside tonight. It's embarrassing when they beat us.


Cozens for Norris was a strange one.. Norris is a one man infirmary .. Cozens will be a driver.. astute move by Staios .. Oil could have used Cozens

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841618 is a reply to message #841613 ]
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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 13:37

Adam wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 08:24

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 08:56

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 08:43

I’m probably crazy to think we SHOULD win this game. We really should though.

The Buffalo franchise makes me sad. I've been hoping they were just about to turn the corner for 5 years now and somehow it keeps getting worse.


This is why you never should make your waterboy the GM. He has no idea what he's doing and he just fumbles from one mistake to the next.

I spoke about the strange decisions relative to Zucker and Norris/Cozens, but I didn't even realize at that point A) the monster contract they'd given Cozens that he's under-performing badly on. H He got 7x7.1MM, signed in Feb 2023. Cozens was 2/3rds of the way through his third season and it looked like a breakout one as he'd finish with 31-37-68.

But in dealing him, they get back an even worse contract with Josh Norris! Coming off a 55-point season (in just 66 games), Norris signed for 8x7.95MM in the summer of 2022. The contracts run to the same end date, with Norris more expensive, also always underperforming relative to his deal and having never played a full season in his entire career due to injury - including playing only 8 games the year after he signed that contract.

Somehow, they managed to get less cap space and give up an extra draft pick for a more brittle player who's performing at the same level. It's pretty incredible actually.

That said, the Sabres, despite all their challenges, seem to bring their best against us. Tage Thompson always seems to be a thorn in our side. Hopefully, we can just brush them aside tonight. It's embarrassing when they beat us.


Cozens for Norris was a strange one.. Norris is a one man infirmary .. Cozens will be a driver.. astute move by Staios .. Oil could have used Cozens



I wouldn't want that contract that comes with him. Otherwise, pretty useful piece and if you're shedding an even worse contract, it becomes a lot more palatable.

Maybe that's the model for a future Nurse trade...

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841620 is a reply to message #841618 ]
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Adam wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 13:00

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 13:37

Cozens for Norris was a strange one.. Norris is a one man infirmary .. Cozens will be a driver.. astute move by Staios .. Oil could have used Cozens



I wouldn't want that contract that comes with him. Otherwise, pretty useful piece and if you're shedding an even worse contract, it becomes a lot more palatable.

Maybe that's the model for a future Nurse trade...


True, didn't factor in cap.. but Cozens would fit in well if he did fit in the cap.

My hope for Nurse was he could someday play as good as we just saw Walman play in that one game .. skate.. be smart.. nothing Norris-like.. just really good defense..

Only hope now is the cap goes to $150M and $9.25M looks small.. he's not getting traded.

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Buffalo (Game #64) [message #841624 is a reply to message #841620 ]
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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 14:45

Adam wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 13:00

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 10 March 2025 13:37

Cozens for Norris was a strange one.. Norris is a one man infirmary .. Cozens will be a driver.. astute move by Staios .. Oil could have used Cozens



I wouldn't want that contract that comes with him. Otherwise, pretty useful piece and if you're shedding an even worse contract, it becomes a lot more palatable.

Maybe that's the model for a future Nurse trade...


True, didn't factor in cap.. but Cozens would fit in well if he did fit in the cap.

My hope for Nurse was he could someday play as good as we just saw Walman play in that one game .. skate.. be smart.. nothing Norris-like.. just really good defense..

Only hope now is the cap goes to $150M and $9.25M looks small.. he's not getting traded.



Walman, Ekholm & Kulak all have another year on their deals. All are LHD. There should be a little concern on age - Ekholm is 34, Kulak 30 and Walman is 28, so all at least starting the back nine there, but otherwise that's a decent left hand side.

If you were to find a good RHD with a non-ideal contract with a lot of years left on it, and maybe a team that has a hole on the left side - then I think you have a potential trading partner. Nurse has a NMC, but if his role is likely to reduce here, he may consider waiving.

The issue is, even with a higher cap, that's a huge amount to spend on a guy who's not obviously your best LHD. I think the team has to be open to exploring how to improve the team even if it includes moving on from someone who was once considered to be foundational.

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