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 Kr55
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Adam wrote on Wed, 12 February 2025 14:20 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 12 February 2025 14:03 |
Ugh, on this topic. Frank Seravalli apparently suggested a Gibson trade would be hard because we're not sure if Kane will be back before the season ending.
If we don't use Kane's LTIR space at the deadline ... I dunno, I might just check out on this team for a while. We wouldn't even get 1 benefit of being able to shamelessly do exactly what won Vegas and the Lightning the cup out of hiring Stan Freakin Bowman? Hope it's just part of the org playing the game to suggest this to Seravalli, but the Oilers have nice history now of passing up golden deadline LTIR opportunities.
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The Oilers would be idiots not to sit Kane all year. It's ridiculous if they don't. He's magically healthy for Game 1 and not a second before.
On Pickard @Mike's comment - it is a SUPER small sample size, with zero track record of any post-season success before, and he's still only 1-1. He lost the second game last year and Skinner won with us on the brink of elimination. If I wasn't super busy today I'd pull the numbers but he hasn't done very well the last couple years against the good teams, and we tend to use him waaaay more against the Ducks and the Blackhawks and the like. He's winning most of the games he should, which is what a good backup does but he's 32 and he is what he is. I think we need a backup plan.
@Kr55 - I disagree we can't afford both. I think you need ducks to retain also to scrub through another team to make Gibson more affordable but if you get that, he could be quite affordable. Ducks have little leverage here. They have their goalie of the future in Dostal (who by the way I'd prefer and would pay WAAAAAY more for), and Gibson has a NMC that he's happy to use to force a trade where he wants to go. If that's really Edmonton then you tell them they're eating half his dollars for the remainder of his deal. You then trade through a third party to eat up more of this year's cap (and anything else you can convince them to take for the future.
Skinner is only $2.5MM so he's hardly an expensive starter at the moment. You could potentially have him and Gibson at ~$4MM this year and under $6MM for the next.
And because we don't have a Hellebuyck coming back, I'm way more comfortable with a tandem of two guys who could pull on the rope, than hitching wagons to either of those guys. Gibson is 31, had some injuries and has had a couple of tougher years behind some truly dreadful teams in Anaheim. He's had to endure multiple years of Eakins re-teaching the squad how to play defence. He could absolutely be the guy and carry the ball, but if he gets hurt in round 2, I still don't want to hand the starting job to Calvin Pickard. I think that's a recipe for disaster.
If I were making the deal, I would maybe go as high as a first rd pick and a middling prospect for Gibson with full retention, and then a depth pick for some additional retention from another team. I'd keep Skinner & Pickard, but Pickard is going off roster until the playoffs so he's not against the cap.
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Yeah, if we can get that retention, Would definitely go with Gibson/Skinner. I would take that over Gibson/Pickard. I think Skinner is better when he has some competition. Some of his best was last playoffs after seeing Pickard take his spot.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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