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John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840243]	Fri, 17 January 2025 11:39

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Per Friedman:

https://x.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1880323357608145392

No details yet.

[Updated on: Fri, 17 January 2025 11:43]

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840245 is a reply to message #840243 ]	Fri, 17 January 2025 11:46

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Not sure about this. They better have a real good idea of his health. Supposedly the hip he had surgery on was bothering him for a long time, or that’s an agent made up excuse for a lot of poor defensive play for many years.

He may be a good 7D but they should have a real short leash and shouldn’t be afraid to replace him or upgrade him in his 15 game audition before the deadline.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840247 is a reply to message #840243 ]	Fri, 17 January 2025 11:52

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Not a big fan of this signing, he hasn't looked good for a few years and is coming off a surgery. I would have preferred the Oilers have him practice with the team like the Canucks did with Kessel last year. See how he actually fits and if he is keeping up with NHL speed again.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840248 is a reply to message #840243 ]	Fri, 17 January 2025 11:53

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Not sure how I feel about this.. he was a good puck mover and defender.. that was a while back..

This is his last 6 years.. looks like injured for last 2.. but he was pulling -28 plus/minus for 2 years in Dallas and Duck-ville.. I hope the hip was tragic enough to cause that.. and the surgery removed it.. but we had hoped the same for Puljujarvi's hip surgery as well..

Regardless.. he hasn't been playing for a while so I doubt he'll be game ready.. conditioning in Condor-town?

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840249 is a reply to message #840243 ]	Fri, 17 January 2025 12:06

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Should be entertaining at least!

I guess our org really isn't a fan of Joshy.

His jfresh player card just for fun

Seems he can still make plays well enough on a lower pair. But not great if this is supposed to make our D more reliable defensively.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840250 is a reply to message #840243 ]	Fri, 17 January 2025 12:09

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At a time that the team is "struggling" with how to deploy Skinner - another offensive player who struggles in his own end, adding Klingberg seems like an odd move. Is he supposed to be the answer as to who plays alongside of Nurse? I can't imagine they'll pair Nurse up with Kulak (two lefties) and have Emberson and Klingberg together (two righties).

Can he start with a conditioning stint in Bakersfield, first?

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840251 is a reply to message #840250 ]	Fri, 17 January 2025 12:21

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I'm sure it's cheap, so maybe we shouldn't lose a lot of sleep over this, but it's a bit of an odd signing. His -28 in Anaheim was in only 50 games and then in Toronto last year he was -7 in just 14 games. That stat can be problematic, but if you're consistently at the bottom of the table on team after team, regardless of performance (his last year in Dallas he was -28 on a team that made the playoffs!) then I think it does tell you something.

I mean, it is possible that we've found the one guy who'll make us want more Josh Brown in the lineup.

Unless he bounces back to 2017-18 form in which case this will be a very solid signing.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840252 is a reply to message #840243 ]	Fri, 17 January 2025 12:30

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For a team that seems to have gone towards analytics with hires and on some acquisitions with Emberson and Podkolzin, they still make some head scratchers. Josh Brown and Klingberg that make you wonder what they see, or how much influence that analytics team has.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840253 is a reply to message #840243 ]	Fri, 17 January 2025 13:19

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If it helps.. Patty Kane had the same procedure and seems to be doing fine..
(he had it just before signing with Detroit)

This what Kane said it was like before surgery.. might be reason Klingburgs numbers were so awful his last 3 years..

Quote:

... Kane began the 2022-23 season in an unpleasant spot — as trade bait on a tanking team, with his hip in a similar state of disrepair.

He was playing “straight-legged,” he said, with severely limited lateral movement.

Left-to-right crossovers posed a particular problem.

“It probably wasn’t even a crossover,” he said.

“It was more of hopping on my left leg to get over to my right side.”...

Here's the history of Kane's path to recovery and great breakdown on the history of the procedure..

Klingburg went to the same surgeon as Kane.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5106531/2023/12/05/patrick- kane-red-wings-hip-surgery/

Kingsburg's surgery was done 13 months ago.. Oilers taking a cheap flier.. if they signed him at league minimum and he bombs they can send him down with no cap implications.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840254 is a reply to message #840243 ]	Fri, 17 January 2025 13:29

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.. the photo is top shelf :)

https://smartcdn.gprod.postmedia.digital/edmontonjournal/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Screen-Shot-2025-01-15-at-9.12.41-AM.png

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840255 is a reply to message #840243 ]	Fri, 17 January 2025 13:40

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Signed to one year @ $1M .. + $350K bonus .. its buriable

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/3192951

UPDATE:

Apparently the bonus is not a performance bonus (applied to next year cap).. its a signing bonus so counts this year..

Puckpedia saying his contract counts as $1,738,462 towards cap.. ?? .. not sure I follow it.. I thought it should count less since half the season is gone (pro-rated less) .. anybody?

Puckpedia contract breakdown is as reported.. $1M base + $350K for signing .. how do they get 1,738,462 cap hit?

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840256 is a reply to message #840243 ]	Fri, 17 January 2025 14:53

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Puckpedia Update:

Here's more of an explanation.. all has to do with Oiler LTIR status.

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If #LetsGoOilers operate in LTIR for the season, then Klingberg takes up $1.74M of Cap Space.

If they're under the cap, a $1.74M Cap hit will only be charged for $824K to their cap based on the # days remaining in the season when acquired.

This is the same as acquiring any player. If in LTIR, need room for entire cap hit. If below cap, only need room for the cap hit pro-rated for remainder of season

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840257 is a reply to message #840243 ]	Fri, 17 January 2025 16:06

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More context from Dreger:

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Dreger:

Klingberg has a chip on his shoulder…eager to prove he’s healthy.

He’s been skating for 6 months and looking forward to showing his chronic hip issues are history.

No assets required and ability to add a r-shot puck-mover for salary/signing bonus is a worthwhile gamble for Oil.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840258 is a reply to message #840243 ]	Fri, 17 January 2025 16:37

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Why would we give him a bonus? Guy should be begging for any chance to prove he isn't garbage and deserves a deal next year. We did him a huge favor just signing him period.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840259 is a reply to message #840258 ]	Fri, 17 January 2025 17:33

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 17 January 2025 15:37

Why would we give him a bonus? Guy should be begging for any chance to prove he isn't garbage and deserves a deal next year. We did him a huge favor just signing him period.

Apparently multiple clubs asking him.. so he had some leverage.. we will see.. could be genius.. or we drop him.

Also per Puckpedia update:

Quote:

PuckPedia@PuckPedia

For Klingberg, he'll only receive 47% of the salary amount (due the remaining portion of the season) while he gets 100% of the signing bonus.

Probably explains the bonus amount.. gets him $820K cash in the pocket for the deal.

The cap hit amount is calculated by assuming he played all year and his season contract would have then been (0.820M / 0.47) = $1.745M .. he only gets 47% of that.

The 6 months of skating has me more positive..

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840260 is a reply to message #840243 ]	Fri, 17 January 2025 22:52

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If this prevents the Oilers from pissing away draft picks at the deadline on a defensive plug, I’m all for it.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840261 is a reply to message #840260 ]	Sat, 18 January 2025 00:46

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NetBOG wrote on Fri, 17 January 2025 21:52

If this prevents the Oilers from pissing away draft picks at the deadline on a defensive plug, I’m all for it.

That's just it we'd probably need to cough up a 1st and a prospect just to get a 2nd or 3rd pair D-man at the deadline.. at least with Klingberg its asset free.. just $820K cash and whatever that cap hit arithmetic works out depending on the Oiler LTIR status at the end of season..

Low downside.. super high upside.

If he works out, good chance he'll take a look at staying next year, he's apparently best buds with Janmark..

He must have been considered a top D-man at one point.. Dallas offered him $7M x 8 .. but he (or agent?) thought he was worth $8M ..
If Klingberg plays anyway near that guy this will be a good deal .. good move.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840262 is a reply to message #840243 ]	Sat, 18 January 2025 01:09

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Some Klingberg highlights if you forget how he played.. like me :)
Its got a song track.. you can mute. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEXVbpn4wm8

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840418 is a reply to message #840243 ]	Wed, 22 January 2025 15:17

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Thought I would bring this over here from the GDT;

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 22 January 2025 12:16

PlusOne wrote on Wed, 22 January 2025 05:16

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 22 January 2025 00:05

I gotta feeling the Klingberg + Ekholm pair will eventually evolve to be the 1st pair.. and Klinger might take over PP1 QB..

I foresee the opposite.
Klingberg may be a useful player. Tough know if he can be effective. At best I expect he can be able to move up and down the right side as needed but will mostly be 5-7th on the depth chart.
I also predict his defensive abilities will make Bouchard look like a shut a down D in comparison.

I'm just going by what he's been saying about his skating.. says he hasn't been this mobile and able to skate pain free for years.. plus been skating for 6 months.. he's always had elite puck IQ and skating .. guess we'll see how it plays out! :)

Waiting to see how it plays out is fair but I dont see his ceiling as a top pairing D. PuckIQ I wont touch given that is a subjective term that is often used to defend or discredit a player with ones opinion.

Take the injury out (which you cant, but for the sake of argument I will) he was never a good defender.
His skating WAS good but at 32 a lot of players start to slow down. His wheels likely covered up for defensive issues so I fear if he has lost even a half step those would be worse. I think he could be very useful in a sheltered, bottom 3 role. If he is fed to top opposition, or a hard forechecking group, he will be eaten alive and leak GA.

Bouchard and Elkholm have played a lot of minutes together and are more often a positive pairing than negative.
Nurse is one I can see them trying with Klingberg. Nurse has been good this year overall and when he is on his game there is room for a guy like Klingberg beside him.
Worst case he plays on the third pairing. Kulak is pretty stable, the minutes can be sheltered and adding the ability to move the puck out quickly could help avoiding the long shifts pinned in their own end.

I am not against the signing, at all, just think expectations need to be low. In he can bump one player out of the starting lineup, on merit, the team is better and at a low cost.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840422 is a reply to message #840418 ]	Wed, 22 January 2025 18:04

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PlusOne wrote on Wed, 22 January 2025 14:17

Thought I would bring this over here from the GDT;

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 22 January 2025 12:16

PlusOne wrote on Wed, 22 January 2025 05:16

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 22 January 2025 00:05

I gotta feeling the Klingberg + Ekholm pair will eventually evolve to be the 1st pair.. and Klinger might take over PP1 QB..

Agree, worst case a solid replacement on 3rd pairing.. but I have hope for higher possibilities.. :)

Klingberg's Defensive Play

He addresses his skating and its effect on his defensive play the last few years in the interview link below.. said he was OK skating with the puck because he was the one determining where he was skating.. wasn't based on reaction.. where he had the problem was playing defense.. which is all based on reaction.. you have to react to the guy with the puck.. or pass.. quickly!.. (like playing D-back in football) .. he said he couldn't react fast enough.. and it affected his defensive play.. wound up having to leave a big gap to give him enough space/time to react on rushes.. he talks about this in this interview .. worth a listen to hear it from him directly.

If his skating is back to normal.. he was excellent on the PP as QB for Dallas.. so much so they offered him an 8x7M.. if we get a reasonable facsimile of that Klingberg we might just have a dual threat on the PP.

I'm OK with being accused of being overly optimistic ;)

https://www.nhl.com/oilers/video/raw-john-klingberg-01-20-25 -6367407763112

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840425 is a reply to message #840422 ]	Thu, 23 January 2025 06:03

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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 22 January 2025 21:04

I'm OK with being accused of being overly optimistic ;)

If nothing else, once the rust comes off, he can be insurance for PP1 QB.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840426 is a reply to message #840425 ]	Thu, 23 January 2025 07:07

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Wonder what the timeline is in terms of him playing. I hear he's skating with the team, but getting into game shape is a whole other thing. Can we loan him to Bakersfield without exposing him to waivers?

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840429 is a reply to message #840426 ]	Thu, 23 January 2025 12:53

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 23 January 2025 06:07

They can.. they call it a conditioning assignment.. but I think they'll keep him up to learn the systems directly.. I heard he had been practicing with an OHL team prior to being signed.. found it.. he was practicing with Brampton Bulldogs for several months..

Apparently he's had the problem his entire career.. and says his mobility is better than he can remember.. getting a reborn Klingberg 2.0 is intriguing to say the least.

Here is his interview in text..
https://oilersnation.com/news/its-been-there-my-entire-caree r-rejuvenated-john-klingberg-is-looking-to-rebound-with-oile rs

By Zach Laing

John Klingberg hit the ice at Rogers Place on Monday morning, practicing with the Edmonton Oilers for the first time since signing a one-year contract with the team late last week.

The 32-year-old, who has worn No. 3 for the entirety of his career up to this point, will wear No. 36 with his new club, becoming the 18th Oiler to do so.
Klingberg is joining the team feeling better than ever, telling Edmonton reporters Monday that he had been dealing with hip pain his entire career. It’s what helped lead him down the path of a resurfacing surgery.

Quote:

“It’s been there my entire career,” said Klingberg. “Pain? I’m not sure you can always deal with pain, but it’s always been something that’s been there, but been able to play though.”

Sure, he was able to play, but it was clear his game wasn’t where it once was. And for a defenceman whose bread and butter was his strong skating, puck-moving style of play, that impacted his ability to play at a high level.

In his most recent games with the Toronto Maple Leafs early in the 2022-23 season, everything came to ahead.

Quote:

“Over the last few years it’s been gradually getting worse and worse, and came to a point last year where something happened during a game, I just felt that there’s no way i’m going to be able to play another 80 games there,” he said. “That’s when we decided to go down that road, and I’m happy I did. I feel so much better, have so much more motion, and no pain, which was incredible.”

While he still felt good about his ability to play with the puck, it was his play without it that was impacted most, he added.

Quote:

“That’s what I felt was really lacking,” he said. “With the puck, I didn’t feel like I could beat players as often as I could before, but at the same time with the puck, I still felt like I could control the game somewhat the way I wanted to, even if it didn’t get to the level I wanted.

It was for sure a struggle without the puck to be able to react to what players were doing if they were going right or left, I’d react to that. It’s almost like I kept a little bit of a distance just because I didn’t want to give up a Grade-A, easy zone entry or whatever. I’m pretty excited to get back to that and feeling like I can really trust my skating again.”

His decision to undergo hip resurfacing surgery wasn’t a quick choice. He and his agent did his own research, he said, with part of that coming in the forms of conversations with Patrick Kane and Nicklas Backstrom, both of whom have undergone the procedure. As part of his recovery, he spent time with the Ontario Hockey League’s Brampton Steelheads, and is now feeling better than ever in his career.

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“The motion I had now is better than I ever remember it to be, so it’s just a matter of getting used to it and work through it,” he said. “I’ve been skating for a while, so I feel like I’m coming along real good and it’s just a matter of obviously getting into the pace of playing against the best players in the world again.”

Klingberg is hoping to do so soon, specifically before the NHL breaks for the 4 Nations Face-Off. The Oilers play nine games before then, giving him ample time to be able to get into action, but more conversations with the team and its medical staff need to happen, first.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840559 is a reply to message #840429 ]	Sun, 26 January 2025 17:53

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Supposedly playing on Wed vs the Wings, per Fat Bob. Will be watching that with interest.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840562 is a reply to message #840559 ]	Mon, 27 January 2025 11:50

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sun, 26 January 2025 16:53

Supposedly playing on Wed vs the Wings, per Fat Bob. Will be watching that with interest.

Apparently visa issues for Klingberg.. which is odd since he's been in Canada all this time practicing with the OHL team in Brantford.. sounds like he's ready to play though..

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey /john-klingberg-edmonton-oilers-immigration

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This in from TSN’s Ryan Rishaug, news that some immigration issues are keeping John Klingberg out of the Edmonton Oilers line-up, with Klingberg, Stuart Skinner and Darnell Nurse all missing practice today.

Said Rishaug: “Skinner on baby watch with his wife, (best wishes to them!). Pickard starts tonight. Nurse under the weather, expected to be available tonight according to Knoblauch. Klingberg away working on some immigration stuff. Could play later this week or on the road next week.”

... This is the first time we’ve heard that immigration issues have popped up for John Klingberg, a rare occurrence for an NHL player but not unheard of. One would hope that it’s resolved rapidly, though as someone who recently waited nine weeks for his passport renewal to come in the mail, I’m not brimming with confidence about the system.

It’s almost certainly just a hiccup, but it does sound like it’s delayed the timeline of Klingberg’s debut with the Oilers.

To be fair, the issue could be at Klingberg’s end, but given the slow working of government, I tend not to give it the benefit of the doubt.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840587 is a reply to message #840562 ]	Tue, 28 January 2025 13:09

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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 27 January 2025 11:50

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sun, 26 January 2025 16:53

Supposedly playing on Wed vs the Wings, per Fat Bob. Will be watching that with interest.

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He won't have been working with Brampton - just skating. That'll be the big difference.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840590 is a reply to message #840587 ]	Tue, 28 January 2025 13:29

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Adam wrote on Tue, 28 January 2025 12:09

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 27 January 2025 11:50

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sun, 26 January 2025 16:53

Supposedly playing on Wed vs the Wings, per Fat Bob. Will be watching that with interest.

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That's probably it.. wasn't just fast food places though .. I remember Canadian Tire was doing it as well instead of paying the going rates because of a booming economy at the time.... about the same time I remember driving by a road side billboard sign in Edmonton at Christmas time once that was advertising a "$5K signing bonus" to take a job at 7-11.. they couldn't find anyone (cheaply)

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840591 is a reply to message #840590 ]	Tue, 28 January 2025 13:32

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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 28 January 2025 13:29

Adam wrote on Tue, 28 January 2025 12:09

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 27 January 2025 11:50

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sun, 26 January 2025 16:53

Supposedly playing on Wed vs the Wings, per Fat Bob. Will be watching that with interest.

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Yeah - there were a bunch of big employers taking advantage of the programs. I think Walmart was in there too. And now as a result it takes a couple weeks to get to the point where hockey players can play in a game.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840595 is a reply to message #840591 ]	Tue, 28 January 2025 16:18

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Adam wrote on Tue, 28 January 2025 13:32

Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 28 January 2025 13:29

Adam wrote on Tue, 28 January 2025 12:09

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 27 January 2025 11:50

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sun, 26 January 2025 16:53

Supposedly playing on Wed vs the Wings, per Fat Bob. Will be watching that with interest.

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I worked on this from the labor side. No one took advantage of it. Everyone followed the rules and it operated exactly as intended.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840597 is a reply to message #840595 ]	Tue, 28 January 2025 16:53

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Location: Edmonton, AB

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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 28 January 2025 16:18

Adam wrote on Tue, 28 January 2025 13:32

Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 28 January 2025 13:29

Adam wrote on Tue, 28 January 2025 12:09

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 27 January 2025 11:50

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sun, 26 January 2025 16:53

Supposedly playing on Wed vs the Wings, per Fat Bob. Will be watching that with interest.

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I worked on this from the labor side. No one took advantage of it. Everyone followed the rules and it operated exactly as intended.

That's why I didn't mention you as part of the problem!

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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Re: John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840600 is a reply to message #840597 ]	Tue, 28 January 2025 20:37

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Location: Also, sadly, Cowtown

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Adam wrote on Tue, 28 January 2025 16:53

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 28 January 2025 16:18

Adam wrote on Tue, 28 January 2025 13:32

Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 28 January 2025 13:29

Adam wrote on Tue, 28 January 2025 12:09

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 27 January 2025 11:50

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sun, 26 January 2025 16:53

Supposedly playing on Wed vs the Wings, per Fat Bob. Will be watching that with interest.

Quote:

I worked on this from the labor side. No one took advantage of it. Everyone followed the rules and it operated exactly as intended.

That's why I didn't mention you as part of the problem!

I used to work at IBM. They systematically maximized their abuse of these programs on both sides of the 49th.

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