| McDavid 3 games ban [message #840343] |
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 smyth260
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Gosh, what a joke. That is quite severe.
Clean house or bust
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nullterm
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Officiating and oversight in this league (as been said thousands of times) is an absolute joke.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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Skookum Jim
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My poll was way off.. could not comprehend a 3 game for what McDavid did.
This league is a bigger freaking joke than I could have even imagined.
That's a big NHL and owner FU to both McDavid and Oiler fans..
If I were McDavid I'd pull out of all NHL sponsored promotional events .. does nothing for him.. he's doing them a favour.. give 'em a big mutual FU.
[Updated on: Mon, 20 January 2025 17:07]
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Jay
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Lol that is completely ridiculous.
I mean we all keep coming back so I guess we deserve it 
Also shocking they "evened it up"!
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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nullterm
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McDavid should give the league the finger and opt out of the Four Nations. Let them soak in their BS.
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Skookum Jim
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| nullterm wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 16:17 |
McDavid should give the league the finger and opt out of the Four Nations. Let them soak in their BS.
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Its a joke tournament anyway.. it's a fake WC .. conjured up as a ridiculous marketing campaign for the NHL.. the main focus of which is to put team USA front and center on the big media stage .. to generate some USA advertising and sales of NHL broadcast rights domestically ..
I can hear it now.. a chorus of "USA.. USA.. USA " ringing through a NBC TV broadcast.. Gary's wet dream..
He won't pull the plug.. the NHL has denied him the opportunity for Olympics for 10 years, so he'll still go..
.. but he could definitely boycott future all-star games and NHL awards.. and all the NHL promo work he does he should stop doing.. ESPN wants an interview? no thanks bud.. go talk to the opposition teams 4th liner.. the NHL has repeatedly indicated that it values them as much, or even more..
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Kr55
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lol. Of course the false equivalency is used by Vegas resident Parros to screw the Oilers over. If Myers didn’t do what he did McDavid probably gets 1 or 2 max alone.
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tardigrade81
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Open season on mcdavid. What a complete joke so sick of it.
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| tardigrade81 wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 17:41 |
Open season on mcdavid. What a complete joke so sick of it.
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It's funny. The one thing the NHL could do to solve this problem is the one thing they absolutely would never try. Just call the rulebook. I think we can all agree we don't want to see McDavid cross check people in the face, but we also don't want to see him being forced to cuddle in the middle of the ice. The solution? Call the rulebook. They have no trouble using the rulebook sometimes, for example when players cross check the face off of some poor chump, but those cross checks probably don't happen if other parts of the rulebook had been called over the past week.
Probably deserved 2 games, but what do I know? Hopefully he goes to Hawaii or something for the week.
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Adam
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The real losers of this are the Seattle Kraken who have to face a well-rested and very pissed off McDavid when he returns.
Parros is a joke.
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 17:18 |
| tardigrade81 wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 17:41 |
Open season on mcdavid. What a complete joke so sick of it.
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It's funny. The one thing the NHL could do to solve this problem is the one thing they absolutely would never try. Just call the rulebook. I think we can all agree we don't want to see McDavid cross check people in the face, but we also don't want to see him being forced to cuddle in the middle of the ice. The solution? Call the rulebook. They have no trouble using the rulebook sometimes, for example when players cross check the face off of some poor chump, but those cross checks probably don't happen if other parts of the rulebook had been called over the past week.
Probably deserved 2 games, but what do I know? Hopefully he goes to Hawaii or something for the week.
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Excellent point.
A better example is on faceoffs.. they're SUPER picky about enforcement on face offs.. which has the least effect on a game, yet they treat it like the most important rule in the book.. its become farcical.. How many faceoffs are nullified because the linesman wants to showboat?
.. or offsides being zoomed to pixel level to decide if a skate blade is 3mm over the line..
Yet somehow hooking and holding (and most recently slewfoots) are considered by the NHL as "DESCRETIONARY" calls.
Same with pucks over the glass.. they are SUPER strict on those calls.. its considered mandatory even if the player never intended to do it.. like he shoots a rolling puck that goes on edge.. or a player hits him just as he was trying to ring it off the glass and it goes out.. they call it even if you are killing a penalty and you go down 2 men.. its called EVERY TIME.. there are NO extenuating circumstances considered.
Question: So why has the NHL DECIDED that these other penalties are to be considered discretionary (even though they have more impact on scoring chances) and not worthy of similar levels of enforcement?
[Updated on: Mon, 20 January 2025 19:29]
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nullterm
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 18:21 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 17:18 |
| tardigrade81 wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 17:41 |
Open season on mcdavid. What a complete joke so sick of it.
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It's funny. The one thing the NHL could do to solve this problem is the one thing they absolutely would never try. Just call the rulebook. I think we can all agree we don't want to see McDavid cross check people in the face, but we also don't want to see him being forced to cuddle in the middle of the ice. The solution? Call the rulebook. They have no trouble using the rulebook sometimes, for example when players cross check the face off of some poor chump, but those cross checks probably don't happen if other parts of the rulebook had been called over the past week.
Probably deserved 2 games, but what do I know? Hopefully he goes to Hawaii or something for the week.
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Excellent point.
A better example is on faceoffs.. they're SUPER picky about enforcement on face offs.. which has the least effect on a game, yet they treat it like the most important rule in the book.. its become farcical.. How many faceoffs are nullified because the linesman wants to showboat?
.. or offsides being zoomed to pixel level to decide if a skate blade is 3mm over the line..
Yet somehow hooking and holding (and most recently slewfoots) are considered by the NHL as "DESCRETIONARY" calls.
Same with pucks over the glass.. they are SUPER strict on those calls.. its considered mandatory even if the player never intended to do it.. like he shoots a rolling puck that goes on edge.. or a player hits him just as he was trying to ring it off the glass and it goes out.. they call it even if you are killing a penalty and you go down 2 men.. its called EVERY TIME.. there are NO extenuating circumstances considered.
Question: So why has the NHL DECIDED that these other penalties are to be considered discretionary (even though they have more impact on scoring chances) and not worthy of similar levels of enforcement?
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The face off thing is entirely a power trip/game by the referees/league to remind players that they are playing under their rules. No one gives a crap, we tune in for the players. Not the referees or the league.
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Skookum Jim
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| nullterm wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 18:36 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 18:21 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 17:18 |
| tardigrade81 wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 17:41 |
Open season on mcdavid. What a complete joke so sick of it.
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It's funny. The one thing the NHL could do to solve this problem is the one thing they absolutely would never try. Just call the rulebook. I think we can all agree we don't want to see McDavid cross check people in the face, but we also don't want to see him being forced to cuddle in the middle of the ice. The solution? Call the rulebook. They have no trouble using the rulebook sometimes, for example when players cross check the face off of some poor chump, but those cross checks probably don't happen if other parts of the rulebook had been called over the past week.
Probably deserved 2 games, but what do I know? Hopefully he goes to Hawaii or something for the week.
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Excellent point.
A better example is on faceoffs.. they're SUPER picky about enforcement on face offs.. which has the least effect on a game, yet they treat it like the most important rule in the book.. its become farcical.. How many faceoffs are nullified because the linesman wants to showboat?
.. or offsides being zoomed to pixel level to decide if a skate blade is 3mm over the line..
Yet somehow hooking and holding (and most recently slewfoots) are considered by the NHL as "DESCRETIONARY" calls.
Same with pucks over the glass.. they are SUPER strict on those calls.. its considered mandatory even if the player never intended to do it.. like he shoots a rolling puck that goes on edge.. or a player hits him just as he was trying to ring it off the glass and it goes out.. they call it even if you are killing a penalty and you go down 2 men.. its called EVERY TIME.. there are NO extenuating circumstances considered.
Question: So why has the NHL DECIDED that these other penalties are to be considered discretionary (even though they have more impact on scoring chances) and not worthy of similar levels of enforcement?
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The face off thing is entirely a power trip/game by the referees/league to remind players that they are playing under their rules. No one gives a crap, we tune in for the players. Not the referees or the league.
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I agree. that's exactly my point .. what they are doing is not limited to officiating and enforcing the rules of the game.. its something else.. either narcissistic power-trips on the part of individual on-ice officials.. or the NHL preference for game and/or score management.. their objectives don't appear to be merely making sure the players consistently abide by an agreed upon set of rules..
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Skookum Jim
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| nullterm wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 18:36 |
The face off thing is entirely a power trip/game by the referees/league to remind players that they are playing under their rules. No one gives a crap, we tune in for the players. Not the referees or the league.
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Regarding faceoffs.. I'd like for ONCE that some TV broadcast colour guy would stop and replay a guy getting thrown out of a face circle and explain EXACTLY why that happened.. I've never seen it done.. and its happens 20 times a game.. you'd think someone would make an attempt once in awhile. Personally I think the task would likely be futile, I don't think there is a clear reason for most of them, how do you tell the TV audience that ".. hmmm.. couldn't see an infraction there.. just the linesman showing the player who's the boss..".
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nullterm
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 20:02 |
| nullterm wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 18:36 |
The face off thing is entirely a power trip/game by the referees/league to remind players that they are playing under their rules. No one gives a crap, we tune in for the players. Not the referees or the league.
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Regarding faceoffs.. I'd like for ONCE that some TV broadcast colour guy would stop and replay a guy getting thrown out of a face circle and explain EXACTLY why that happened.. I've never seen it done.. and its happens 20 times a game.. you'd think someone would make an attempt once in awhile. Personally I think the task would likely be futile, I don't think there is a clear reason for most of them, how do you tell the TV audience that ".. hmmm.. couldn't see an infraction there.. just the linesman showing the player who's the boss..".
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Put referees names back on their jerseys. Don't let them be anonymous.
Same with suspension calls, make Soros or whoever step in front of media/fans and explain it face to face.
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Skookum Jim
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If true.. good 👍🏻
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We are hearing that Connor McDavid & his camp are strongly considering scaling back their
@NHL tour events, such as media interviews to push things for the league.
This was communicated before to the #NHL because the lack of protection the Superstar players get in this league.
This is a story to follow over the next few weeks. #LetsGoOilers
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Skookum Jim
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And in case anyone forgot.. this is what Soucy of the Canucks did to McDavid in the playoffs.. buzzer went.. Soucy cross check straight to McDavid's face... intent to injure.. while at the same time Zadorov cross checks McDavid in the low back.. almost breaks him in two.. DOPES gave Soucy one (1) game.. Zadorov got nothing..
https://x.com/BR_OpenIce/status/1789875492851433687
.. fast forward to McDavid getting THREE (3) games for responding to a guy trying to tackle him for a quarter minute.
Yep New York City NHL Corp. in action
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Jay
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 21:26 |
And in case anyone forgot.. this is what Soucy of the Canucks did to McDavid in the playoffs.. buzzer went.. Soucy cross check straight to McDavid's face... intent to injure.. while at the same time Zadorov cross checks McDavid in the low back.. almost breaks him in two.. DOPES gave Soucy one (1) game.. Zadorov got nothing..
https://x.com/BR_OpenIce/status/1789875492851433687
.. fast forward to McDavid getting THREE (3) games for responding to a guy trying to tackle him for a quarter minute.
Yep New York City NHL Corp. in action
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Angelo got 1 game (which wasnt even really a game because they evened it up) for flying across the ice with his stick over his head to chop the best player in the series in a game that was already over. But it was OK because he was retaliating for something that happened earlier in the game - actual explanation lol.
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| Jay wrote on Tue, 21 January 2025 09:40 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 21:26 |
And in case anyone forgot.. this is what Soucy of the Canucks did to McDavid in the playoffs.. buzzer went.. Soucy cross check straight to McDavid's face... intent to injure.. while at the same time Zadorov cross checks McDavid in the low back.. almost breaks him in two.. DOPES gave Soucy one (1) game.. Zadorov got nothing..
https://x.com/BR_OpenIce/status/1789875492851433687
.. fast forward to McDavid getting THREE (3) games for responding to a guy trying to tackle him for a quarter minute.
Yep New York City NHL Corp. in action
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Angelo got 1 game (which wasnt even really a game because they evened it up) for flying across the ice with his stick over his head to chop the best player in the series in a game that was already over. But it was OK because he was retaliating for something that happened earlier in the game - actual explanation lol.
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And Nurse getting a game for getting punched in the face - that was awesome too.
I know he won't do it, but I would LOVE to see McDavid give the league the finger and just 'work to rule' - do absolutely nothing he is not obligated to. Then pull a Marshawn Lynch for every single interview: "I'm only here so I don't get fined"
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Adam
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I'd love to see a few stars around the league actually comment on it - say that that Garland play was clearly a penalty and that the refs could have controlled it by not letting that happen. I'd like to see some of the more influential media guys actually take a strong opinion on it too - say that the league needs to do a better job calling the rule book and that there shouldn't be times of the game or the season where it goes out the window.
This is a persistent problem because everyone just says "the refs have a tough job" and "George Parros has a tough job" and then just moves on to the next one.
It's bullcrap. It should be called out. As long as it isn't then the NHL assumes they're doing the right thing. And if it's just the Edmonton media mooning around a little, that's not helpful because it gets dismissed as homerism.
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| Jay wrote on Tue, 21 January 2025 06:40 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 20 January 2025 21:26 |
And in case anyone forgot.. this is what Soucy of the Canucks did to McDavid in the playoffs.. buzzer went.. Soucy cross check straight to McDavid's face... intent to injure.. while at the same time Zadorov cross checks McDavid in the low back.. almost breaks him in two.. DOPES gave Soucy one (1) game.. Zadorov got nothing..
https://x.com/BR_OpenIce/status/1789875492851433687
.. fast forward to McDavid getting THREE (3) games for responding to a guy trying to tackle him for a quarter minute.
Yep New York City NHL Corp. in action
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Angelo got 1 game (which wasnt even really a game because they evened it up) for flying across the ice with his stick over his head to chop the best player in the series in a game that was already over. But it was OK because he was retaliating for something that happened earlier in the game - actual explanation lol.
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I still want that pound of flesh. Badly.
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Skookum Jim
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If you really want to get PO'd .. listen to Parros do the play x play explanation.. he sounds even more moronic to hear him speak.. needs to be fired. Replace with AI.
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Kr55
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 21 January 2025 12:49 |
If you really want to get PO'd .. listen to Parros do the play x play explanation.. he sounds even more moronic to hear him speak.. needs to be fired. Replace with AI.
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Degenerative brain damage. He's been knocked out cold multiple times in his NHL/minors career. Have a mentally degrading former plug in a prominent NHL role.
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That's the problem when your interview questionnaire for DOPS is just a colour by numbers with a pack of crayons.
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Kr55
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Not sure if it has been confirmed for real, but saw social media "insiders" claiming McDavid's camp is considering scaling back his participation in optional events to help promote the NHL.
Would like to see star players all come together and build that up as a legitimate threat against this league that lets former plugs decide how the game should be refed/disciplined. Let the NHL have a plugs only all-star game.
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Skookum Jim
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| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 21 January 2025 13:07 |
Not sure if it has been confirmed for real, but saw social media "insiders" claiming McDavid's camp is considering scaling back his participation in optional events to help promote the NHL.
Would like to see star players all come together and build that up as a legitimate threat against this league that lets former plugs decide how the game should be refed/disciplined. Let the NHL have a plugs only all-star game.
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Yeah if Bettman and league owners value the 4th line plugs so much.. let them use the plugs to lead the NHL promotional campaigns. I wouldn't be spending my free time doing anything to help make the NHL owners more money when they do everything to impede him from being the best player he can be, interfering with his career.. he would have another 400 points if he were treated equally by the league.
No one is asking the refs to treat McDavid "special" and give him more calls than he deserves.. just not treat him "special" like they do now and IGNORE the infractions.
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Oilers release statement
https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/release-oilers-statement-on- connor-mcdavid-suspension
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The Oilers organization is disappointed and we share in our fans' frustration over the three-game suspension of our captain Connor McDavid. We support him through this process and the organization and our fans look forward to having him back in the lineup vs. Seattle next week.
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I got excited for a spicy accusation against the NHL. Instead I am disappointed in their subdued disappointment.
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Kr55
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| smyth260 wrote on Tue, 21 January 2025 17:43 |
Oilers release statement
https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/release-oilers-statement-on- connor-mcdavid-suspension
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The Oilers organization is disappointed and we share in our fans' frustration over the three-game suspension of our captain Connor McDavid. We support him through this process and the organization and our fans look forward to having him back in the lineup vs. Seattle next week.
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I got excited for a spicy accusation against the NHL. Instead I am disappointed in their subdued disappointment.
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Lapdog team
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Skookum Jim
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| smyth260 wrote on Tue, 21 January 2025 16:43 |
Oilers release statement
https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/release-oilers-statement-on- connor-mcdavid-suspension
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The Oilers organization is disappointed and we share in our fans' frustration over the three-game suspension of our captain Connor McDavid. We support him through this process and the organization and our fans look forward to having him back in the lineup vs. Seattle next week.
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I got excited for a spicy accusation against the NHL. Instead I am disappointed in their subdued disappointment.
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We're vewy vewy disappointed.. weak sauce.
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| smyth260 wrote on Tue, 21 January 2025 17:43 |
Oilers release statement
https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/release-oilers-statement-on- connor-mcdavid-suspension
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The Oilers organization is disappointed and we share in our fans' frustration over the three-game suspension of our captain Connor McDavid. We support him through this process and the organization and our fans look forward to having him back in the lineup vs. Seattle next week.
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I got excited for a spicy accusation against the NHL. Instead I am disappointed in their subdued disappointment.
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I think the Oilers are trying to subtly signal some real annoyance here. The press release is unusual, and it says specifically that they're frustrated. It's going out of its way not to embarrass the league, Parros and the officials, but still flagging that they are not happy here.
There have also been media guys who have heard from sources that A) McDavid was going to appeal, and B) that he's intending to scale back on league interactions, interviews, etc. They didn't in fact appeal, but it still indicates to the league that the star and the team are fed up with this.
We'll see if it gets any action. I think it's still too subtle, and we're going to have to see someone go off and get fined before there is a change, but still - at least they're not completely sitting on their hands.
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Well, they already have my money, but maybe by not watching these three games on ESPN+ they'll see a decline in viewership? I dunno, maybe they'll realize that pro sports are Superstar driven.
Doubt it.
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