| John Klingberg signs with Oilers [message #840243] |
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 smyth260
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Not sure about this. They better have a real good idea of his health. Supposedly the hip he had surgery on was bothering him for a long time, or that’s an agent made up excuse for a lot of poor defensive play for many years.
He may be a good 7D but they should have a real short leash and shouldn’t be afraid to replace him or upgrade him in his 15 game audition before the deadline.
Clean house or bust
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oilfan94
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Not a big fan of this signing, he hasn't looked good for a few years and is coming off a surgery. I would have preferred the Oilers have him practice with the team like the Canucks did with Kessel last year. See how he actually fits and if he is keeping up with NHL speed again.
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Skookum Jim
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Not sure how I feel about this.. he was a good puck mover and defender.. that was a while back..
This is his last 6 years.. looks like injured for last 2.. but he was pulling -28 plus/minus for 2 years in Dallas and Duck-ville.. I hope the hip was tragic enough to cause that.. and the surgery removed it.. but we had hoped the same for Puljujarvi's hip surgery as well..
Regardless.. he hasn't been playing for a while so I doubt he'll be game ready.. conditioning in Condor-town?
2019-20 Dallas Stars NHL 58 6 26 32 22 -10 26 4 17 21 14
2020-21 Dallas Stars NHL 53 7 29 36 23 -15 -- -- -- -- --
2021-22 Dallas Stars NHL 74 6 41 47 34 -28 7 0 1 1 26
2022-23 Anaheim Ducks NHL 50 8 16 24 30 -28 -- -- -- -- --
2022-23 Minnesota Wild NHL 17 2 7 9 4 3 4 1 3 4 0
2023-24 Maple Leafs NHL 14 0 5 5 8 -7 -- -- -- -- --
[Updated on: Fri, 17 January 2025 11:55]
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Kr55
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Should be entertaining at least!
I guess our org really isn't a fan of Joshy.
His jfresh player card just for fun
Seems he can still make plays well enough on a lower pair. But not great if this is supposed to make our D more reliable defensively.
[Updated on: Fri, 17 January 2025 12:09]
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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Hibernia
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At a time that the team is "struggling" with how to deploy Skinner - another offensive player who struggles in his own end, adding Klingberg seems like an odd move. Is he supposed to be the answer as to who plays alongside of Nurse? I can't imagine they'll pair Nurse up with Kulak (two lefties) and have Emberson and Klingberg together (two righties).
Can he start with a conditioning stint in Bakersfield, first?
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Adam
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I'm sure it's cheap, so maybe we shouldn't lose a lot of sleep over this, but it's a bit of an odd signing. His -28 in Anaheim was in only 50 games and then in Toronto last year he was -7 in just 14 games. That stat can be problematic, but if you're consistently at the bottom of the table on team after team, regardless of performance (his last year in Dallas he was -28 on a team that made the playoffs!) then I think it does tell you something.
I mean, it is possible that we've found the one guy who'll make us want more Josh Brown in the lineup.
Unless he bounces back to 2017-18 form in which case this will be a very solid signing.
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smyth260
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For a team that seems to have gone towards analytics with hires and on some acquisitions with Emberson and Podkolzin, they still make some head scratchers. Josh Brown and Klingberg that make you wonder what they see, or how much influence that analytics team has.
Clean house or bust
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Skookum Jim
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If it helps.. Patty Kane had the same procedure and seems to be doing fine..
(he had it just before signing with Detroit)
This what Kane said it was like before surgery.. might be reason Klingburgs numbers were so awful his last 3 years..
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... Kane began the 2022-23 season in an unpleasant spot — as trade bait on a tanking team, with his hip in a similar state of disrepair.
He was playing “straight-legged,” he said, with severely limited lateral movement.
Left-to-right crossovers posed a particular problem.
“It probably wasn’t even a crossover,” he said.
“It was more of hopping on my left leg to get over to my right side.”...
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Here's the history of Kane's path to recovery and great breakdown on the history of the procedure..
Klingburg went to the same surgeon as Kane.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5106531/2023/12/05/patrick- kane-red-wings-hip-surgery/
Kingsburg's surgery was done 13 months ago.. Oilers taking a cheap flier.. if they signed him at league minimum and he bombs they can send him down with no cap implications.
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Skookum Jim
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.. the photo is top shelf :)
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Skookum Jim
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Signed to one year @ $1M .. + $350K bonus .. its buriable
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/3192951
UPDATE:
Apparently the bonus is not a performance bonus (applied to next year cap).. its a signing bonus so counts this year..
Puckpedia saying his contract counts as $1,738,462 towards cap.. ?? .. not sure I follow it.. I thought it should count less since half the season is gone (pro-rated less) .. anybody?
Puckpedia contract breakdown is as reported.. $1M base + $350K for signing .. how do they get 1,738,462 cap hit?
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Skookum Jim
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Puckpedia Update:
Here's more of an explanation.. all has to do with Oiler LTIR status.
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If #LetsGoOilers operate in LTIR for the season, then Klingberg takes up $1.74M of Cap Space.
If they're under the cap, a $1.74M Cap hit will only be charged for $824K to their cap based on the # days remaining in the season when acquired.
This is the same as acquiring any player. If in LTIR, need room for entire cap hit. If below cap, only need room for the cap hit pro-rated for remainder of season
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Skookum Jim
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More context from Dreger:
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Dreger:
Klingberg has a chip on his shoulder…eager to prove he’s healthy.
He’s been skating for 6 months and looking forward to showing his chronic hip issues are history.
No assets required and ability to add a r-shot puck-mover for salary/signing bonus is a worthwhile gamble for Oil.
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Kr55
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Why would we give him a bonus? Guy should be begging for any chance to prove he isn't garbage and deserves a deal next year. We did him a huge favor just signing him period.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
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| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 17 January 2025 15:37 |
Why would we give him a bonus? Guy should be begging for any chance to prove he isn't garbage and deserves a deal next year. We did him a huge favor just signing him period.
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Apparently multiple clubs asking him.. so he had some leverage.. we will see.. could be genius.. or we drop him.
Also per Puckpedia update:
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For Klingberg, he'll only receive 47% of the salary amount (due the remaining portion of the season) while he gets 100% of the signing bonus.
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Probably explains the bonus amount.. gets him $820K cash in the pocket for the deal.
The cap hit amount is calculated by assuming he played all year and his season contract would have then been (0.820M / 0.47) = $1.745M .. he only gets 47% of that.
The 6 months of skating has me more positive..
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