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2024-25 Regular Season
Thursday, October 17, 2024Edmonton 4 @ Nashville 2Win
Thursday, October 31, 2024Edmonton 5 @ Nashville 1Win
Thursday, November 14, 2024Nashville @ Edmonton
Home Record: 0-0-0       Road Record: 2-0-0       Overall Record: 2-0-0
Home / Road Goals For: 0/9 Total: 9
Home / Road Goals Against: 0/3 Total: 3

2023-24 Regular Season
Tuesday, October 17, 2023Edmonton 6 @ Nashville 1Win
Saturday, November 4, 2023Nashville 5 @ Edmonton 2Loss
Saturday, January 27, 2024Nashville 1 @ Edmonton 4Win
Home Record: 1-1-0       Road Record: 1-0-0       Overall Record: 2-1-0
Home / Road Goals For: 6/6 Total: 12
Home / Road Goals Against: 6/1 Total: 7



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Halloween and hockey, what's not to like? Too bad the Thursday night football game will probably be a dud.

Draisaitl needs to be the guy here. He's the new 14 million dollar man. He's got a chance to show everyone he's capable of getting a team to the playoffs without McDavid.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 08:45

Halloween and hockey, what's not to like? Too bad the Thursday night football game will probably be a dud.

Draisaitl needs to be the guy here. He's the new 14 million dollar man. He's got a chance to show everyone he's capable of getting a team to the playoffs without McDavid.

14? Pretty sure the cap hit is 8.5. The last time Mcdavid was injured 29 won the Hart. He's the only reason this team isn't under water already this year.

If there are still people who need to be shown how valuable Leon Draisaitl is then maybe hockey isn't their thing?

"Initiative comes to thems that wait"

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Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 10:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 08:45

Halloween and hockey, what's not to like? Too bad the Thursday night football game will probably be a dud.

Draisaitl needs to be the guy here. He's the new 14 million dollar man. He's got a chance to show everyone he's capable of getting a team to the playoffs without McDavid.

14? Pretty sure the cap hit is 8.5. The last time Mcdavid was injured 29 won the Hart. He's the only reason this team isn't under water already this year.

If there are still people who need to be shown how valuable Leon Draisaitl is then maybe hockey isn't their thing?

The raise for next year is already signed. He earned the 14 million dollar contract, now he has to justify it. Draisaitl is the Oilers' Scottie Pippen. The great player who lives in the shadow of the greatest will always have to fight the whisper campaign that he's a creation of circumstance.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Nashville (Game #11) [message #838602 is a reply to message #838601 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 11:38

Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 10:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 08:45

Halloween and hockey, what's not to like? Too bad the Thursday night football game will probably be a dud.

Draisaitl needs to be the guy here. He's the new 14 million dollar man. He's got a chance to show everyone he's capable of getting a team to the playoffs without McDavid.

14? Pretty sure the cap hit is 8.5. The last time Mcdavid was injured 29 won the Hart. He's the only reason this team isn't under water already this year.

If there are still people who need to be shown how valuable Leon Draisaitl is then maybe hockey isn't their thing?

The raise for next year is already signed. He earned the 14 million dollar contract, now he has to justify it. Draisaitl is the Oilers' Scottie Pippen. The great player who lives in the shadow of the greatest will always have to fight the whisper campaign that he's a creation of circumstance.

I don't follow basketball. Did Pippen ever win a scoring title or an MVP? What's the equivalent of 3 50 goal seasons in basketball?

I wonder if 97 has justified his 12 this year? Or his 17 for two years from now...no cups so far. And injury prone apparently.

I'm kind of joking but also it's absurd to think 29 has anything to prove beyond the obvious (winning a cup).

With the exception of the last two rounds last year when he played with broken ribs and fingers he's been the best playoff performer probably since lemieux.

Switch their nationalities and the narrative around these two would be very different.

"Initiative comes to thems that wait"

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Nashville (Game #11) [message #838603 is a reply to message #838602 ]
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Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 12:32

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 11:38

Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 10:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 08:45

Halloween and hockey, what's not to like? Too bad the Thursday night football game will probably be a dud.

Draisaitl needs to be the guy here. He's the new 14 million dollar man. He's got a chance to show everyone he's capable of getting a team to the playoffs without McDavid.

14? Pretty sure the cap hit is 8.5. The last time Mcdavid was injured 29 won the Hart. He's the only reason this team isn't under water already this year.

If there are still people who need to be shown how valuable Leon Draisaitl is then maybe hockey isn't their thing?

The raise for next year is already signed. He earned the 14 million dollar contract, now he has to justify it. Draisaitl is the Oilers' Scottie Pippen. The great player who lives in the shadow of the greatest will always have to fight the whisper campaign that he's a creation of circumstance.

I don't follow basketball. Did Pippen ever win a scoring title or an MVP? What's the equivalent of 3 50 goal seasons in basketball?

I wonder if 97 has justified his 12 this year? Or his 17 for two years from now...no cups so far. And injury prone apparently.

I'm kind of joking but also it's absurd to think 29 has anything to prove beyond the obvious (winning a cup).

With the exception of the last two rounds last year when he played with broken ribs and fingers he's been the best playoff performer probably since lemieux.

Switch their nationalities and the narrative around these two would be very different.

Pro sports is a results based 'what have you done for me lately' world. Players always have to prove what they are. If the Oilers look bad and go 2-7 while McDavid is out a narrative will start to form and we'll hear about Drai being overpaid.

Pippen was a great player. Never the best, but top 10 (maybe top 5) in the Bulls golden era. He's been selected to the NBA's all time top 50 (1996) and top 75 (2021) teams, 2 time gold medalist in the dream team era, and no doubt about it hall of famer. BUT when Jordan skipped two years to settle a gambling dispute play baseball the Bulls weren't as good and a narrative formed about Scottie Pippen.

For what it's worth, I'm not too worried about McDavid being out for a couple weeks. I think the Oilers will do more than tread water and Draisaitl will perform well as the top dog. But he does have to perform. It's his team until Connor comes back.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Nashville (Game #11) [message #838604 is a reply to message #838602 ]
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Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 14:32

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 11:38

Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 10:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 08:45

Halloween and hockey, what's not to like? Too bad the Thursday night football game will probably be a dud.

Draisaitl needs to be the guy here. He's the new 14 million dollar man. He's got a chance to show everyone he's capable of getting a team to the playoffs without McDavid.

14? Pretty sure the cap hit is 8.5. The last time Mcdavid was injured 29 won the Hart. He's the only reason this team isn't under water already this year.

If there are still people who need to be shown how valuable Leon Draisaitl is then maybe hockey isn't their thing?

The raise for next year is already signed. He earned the 14 million dollar contract, now he has to justify it. Draisaitl is the Oilers' Scottie Pippen. The great player who lives in the shadow of the greatest will always have to fight the whisper campaign that he's a creation of circumstance.

I don't follow basketball. Did Pippen ever win a scoring title or an MVP? What's the equivalent of 3 50 goal seasons in basketball?

I wonder if 97 has justified his 12 this year? Or his 17 for two years from now...no cups so far. And injury prone apparently.

I'm kind of joking but also it's absurd to think 29 has anything to prove beyond the obvious (winning a cup).

With the exception of the last two rounds last year when he played with broken ribs and fingers he's been the best playoff performer probably since lemieux.

Switch their nationalities and the narrative around these two would be very different.


Is there a stereotype on German players I am not aware of? Seems kind of ridicules to pull the "switch nationalities" thing in this situation. The fact is that McDavid only missed 6 games back in 2020 and the Oilers were 3-2-1 in that span. Draisaitl had 12 points in those 6 games, so yes he can carry the team. However, we are now 4.5 years later and there is a totally different team to carry, an older and slower team, and one that has had a ton of bad luck so far. The circumstances are different, but I think the best case scenario is that the results are the same.

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Nashville (Game #11) [message #838605 is a reply to message #838603 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 13:22

Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 12:32

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 11:38

Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 10:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 08:45

Halloween and hockey, what's not to like? Too bad the Thursday night football game will probably be a dud.

Draisaitl needs to be the guy here. He's the new 14 million dollar man. He's got a chance to show everyone he's capable of getting a team to the playoffs without McDavid.

14? Pretty sure the cap hit is 8.5. The last time Mcdavid was injured 29 won the Hart. He's the only reason this team isn't under water already this year.

If there are still people who need to be shown how valuable Leon Draisaitl is then maybe hockey isn't their thing?

The raise for next year is already signed. He earned the 14 million dollar contract, now he has to justify it. Draisaitl is the Oilers' Scottie Pippen. The great player who lives in the shadow of the greatest will always have to fight the whisper campaign that he's a creation of circumstance.

I don't follow basketball. Did Pippen ever win a scoring title or an MVP? What's the equivalent of 3 50 goal seasons in basketball?

I wonder if 97 has justified his 12 this year? Or his 17 for two years from now...no cups so far. And injury prone apparently.

I'm kind of joking but also it's absurd to think 29 has anything to prove beyond the obvious (winning a cup).

With the exception of the last two rounds last year when he played with broken ribs and fingers he's been the best playoff performer probably since lemieux.

Switch their nationalities and the narrative around these two would be very different.

Pro sports is a results based 'what have you done for me lately' world. Players always have to prove what they are. If the Oilers look bad and go 2-7 while McDavid is out a narrative will start to form and we'll hear about Drai being overpaid.

Pippen was a great player. Never the best, but top 10 (maybe top 5) in the Bulls golden era. He's been selected to the NBA's all time top 50 (1996) and top 75 (2021) teams, 2 time gold medalist in the dream team era, and no doubt about it hall of famer. BUT when Jordan skipped two years to settle a gambling dispute play baseball the Bulls weren't as good and a narrative formed about Scottie Pippen.

For what it's worth, I'm not too worried about McDavid being out for a couple weeks. I think the Oilers will do more than tread water and Draisaitl will perform well as the top dog. But he does have to perform. It's his team until Connor comes back.

Oh yeah I agree he has to perform and that it's his team with 97 out. I just don't think he has anything to prove as far as being capable of being an elite franchise tier player. Semantics maybe but something to talk about.

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oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 13:27

Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 14:32

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 11:38

Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 10:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 08:45

Halloween and hockey, what's not to like? Too bad the Thursday night football game will probably be a dud.

Draisaitl needs to be the guy here. He's the new 14 million dollar man. He's got a chance to show everyone he's capable of getting a team to the playoffs without McDavid.

14? Pretty sure the cap hit is 8.5. The last time Mcdavid was injured 29 won the Hart. He's the only reason this team isn't under water already this year.

If there are still people who need to be shown how valuable Leon Draisaitl is then maybe hockey isn't their thing?

The raise for next year is already signed. He earned the 14 million dollar contract, now he has to justify it. Draisaitl is the Oilers' Scottie Pippen. The great player who lives in the shadow of the greatest will always have to fight the whisper campaign that he's a creation of circumstance.

I don't follow basketball. Did Pippen ever win a scoring title or an MVP? What's the equivalent of 3 50 goal seasons in basketball?

I wonder if 97 has justified his 12 this year? Or his 17 for two years from now...no cups so far. And injury prone apparently.

I'm kind of joking but also it's absurd to think 29 has anything to prove beyond the obvious (winning a cup).

With the exception of the last two rounds last year when he played with broken ribs and fingers he's been the best playoff performer probably since lemieux.

Switch their nationalities and the narrative around these two would be very different.


Is there a stereotype on German players I am not aware of? Seems kind of ridicules to pull the "switch nationalities" thing in this situation. The fact is that McDavid only missed 6 games back in 2020 and the Oilers were 3-2-1 in that span. Draisaitl had 12 points in those 6 games, so yes he can carry the team. However, we are now 4.5 years later and there is a totally different team to carry, an older and slower team, and one that has had a ton of bad luck so far. The circumstances are different, but I think the best case scenario is that the results are the same.

Yes he can carry the team. Yes Canadian players have different narratives built around them in Canada than Europeans.

"Initiative comes to thems that wait"

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Nashville (Game #11) [message #838608 is a reply to message #838606 ]
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Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 13:50

oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 13:27

Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 14:32

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 11:38

Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 10:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 08:45

Halloween and hockey, what's not to like? Too bad the Thursday night football game will probably be a dud.

Draisaitl needs to be the guy here. He's the new 14 million dollar man. He's got a chance to show everyone he's capable of getting a team to the playoffs without McDavid.

14? Pretty sure the cap hit is 8.5. The last time Mcdavid was injured 29 won the Hart. He's the only reason this team isn't under water already this year.

If there are still people who need to be shown how valuable Leon Draisaitl is then maybe hockey isn't their thing?

The raise for next year is already signed. He earned the 14 million dollar contract, now he has to justify it. Draisaitl is the Oilers' Scottie Pippen. The great player who lives in the shadow of the greatest will always have to fight the whisper campaign that he's a creation of circumstance.

I don't follow basketball. Did Pippen ever win a scoring title or an MVP? What's the equivalent of 3 50 goal seasons in basketball?

I wonder if 97 has justified his 12 this year? Or his 17 for two years from now...no cups so far. And injury prone apparently.

I'm kind of joking but also it's absurd to think 29 has anything to prove beyond the obvious (winning a cup).

With the exception of the last two rounds last year when he played with broken ribs and fingers he's been the best playoff performer probably since lemieux.

Switch their nationalities and the narrative around these two would be very different.


Is there a stereotype on German players I am not aware of? Seems kind of ridicules to pull the "switch nationalities" thing in this situation. The fact is that McDavid only missed 6 games back in 2020 and the Oilers were 3-2-1 in that span. Draisaitl had 12 points in those 6 games, so yes he can carry the team. However, we are now 4.5 years later and there is a totally different team to carry, an older and slower team, and one that has had a ton of bad luck so far. The circumstances are different, but I think the best case scenario is that the results are the same.

Yes he can carry the team. Yes Canadian players have different narratives built around them in Canada than Europeans.


100%. It's partly our xenophobic media mouthpieces here, but there's definitely a different narrrative for Canadians & Americans versus European players. I mean, Mark Spector seems to think the best compliment you can have for a European player is that they speak with not much of an accent. The guys that struggle with doing interviews in English inevitably get crapped all over.

I mean, if Hemsky had been from Banff and Smyth from Czechia, I suspect we might have a different name up on the ring of honour...

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Adam wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 13:59

Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 13:50

oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 13:27

Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 14:32

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 11:38

Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 10:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 08:45

Halloween and hockey, what's not to like? Too bad the Thursday night football game will probably be a dud.

Draisaitl needs to be the guy here. He's the new 14 million dollar man. He's got a chance to show everyone he's capable of getting a team to the playoffs without McDavid.

14? Pretty sure the cap hit is 8.5. The last time Mcdavid was injured 29 won the Hart. He's the only reason this team isn't under water already this year.

If there are still people who need to be shown how valuable Leon Draisaitl is then maybe hockey isn't their thing?

The raise for next year is already signed. He earned the 14 million dollar contract, now he has to justify it. Draisaitl is the Oilers' Scottie Pippen. The great player who lives in the shadow of the greatest will always have to fight the whisper campaign that he's a creation of circumstance.

I don't follow basketball. Did Pippen ever win a scoring title or an MVP? What's the equivalent of 3 50 goal seasons in basketball?

I wonder if 97 has justified his 12 this year? Or his 17 for two years from now...no cups so far. And injury prone apparently.

I'm kind of joking but also it's absurd to think 29 has anything to prove beyond the obvious (winning a cup).

With the exception of the last two rounds last year when he played with broken ribs and fingers he's been the best playoff performer probably since lemieux.

Switch their nationalities and the narrative around these two would be very different.


Is there a stereotype on German players I am not aware of? Seems kind of ridicules to pull the "switch nationalities" thing in this situation. The fact is that McDavid only missed 6 games back in 2020 and the Oilers were 3-2-1 in that span. Draisaitl had 12 points in those 6 games, so yes he can carry the team. However, we are now 4.5 years later and there is a totally different team to carry, an older and slower team, and one that has had a ton of bad luck so far. The circumstances are different, but I think the best case scenario is that the results are the same.

Yes he can carry the team. Yes Canadian players have different narratives built around them in Canada than Europeans.


100%. It's partly our xenophobic media mouthpieces here, but there's definitely a different narrrative for Canadians & Americans versus European players. I mean, Mark Spector seems to think the best compliment you can have for a European player is that they speak with not much of an accent. The guys that struggle with doing interviews in English inevitably get crapped all over.

I mean, if Hemsky had been from Banff and Smyth from Czechia, I suspect we might have a different name up on the ring of honour...

The funny (maybe just to me) thing is I wasn't think of Draisaitl's German or Euroness at all. My only thought was of him as the second banana to McDavid.

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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 14:05

Adam wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 13:59

Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 13:50

oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 13:27

Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 14:32

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 11:38

Jay wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 10:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 08:45

Halloween and hockey, what's not to like? Too bad the Thursday night football game will probably be a dud.

Draisaitl needs to be the guy here. He's the new 14 million dollar man. He's got a chance to show everyone he's capable of getting a team to the playoffs without McDavid.

14? Pretty sure the cap hit is 8.5. The last time Mcdavid was injured 29 won the Hart. He's the only reason this team isn't under water already this year.

If there are still people who need to be shown how valuable Leon Draisaitl is then maybe hockey isn't their thing?

The raise for next year is already signed. He earned the 14 million dollar contract, now he has to justify it. Draisaitl is the Oilers' Scottie Pippen. The great player who lives in the shadow of the greatest will always have to fight the whisper campaign that he's a creation of circumstance.

I don't follow basketball. Did Pippen ever win a scoring title or an MVP? What's the equivalent of 3 50 goal seasons in basketball?

I wonder if 97 has justified his 12 this year? Or his 17 for two years from now...no cups so far. And injury prone apparently.

I'm kind of joking but also it's absurd to think 29 has anything to prove beyond the obvious (winning a cup).

With the exception of the last two rounds last year when he played with broken ribs and fingers he's been the best playoff performer probably since lemieux.

Switch their nationalities and the narrative around these two would be very different.


Is there a stereotype on German players I am not aware of? Seems kind of ridicules to pull the "switch nationalities" thing in this situation. The fact is that McDavid only missed 6 games back in 2020 and the Oilers were 3-2-1 in that span. Draisaitl had 12 points in those 6 games, so yes he can carry the team. However, we are now 4.5 years later and there is a totally different team to carry, an older and slower team, and one that has had a ton of bad luck so far. The circumstances are different, but I think the best case scenario is that the results are the same.

Yes he can carry the team. Yes Canadian players have different narratives built around them in Canada than Europeans.


100%. It's partly our xenophobic media mouthpieces here, but there's definitely a different narrrative for Canadians & Americans versus European players. I mean, Mark Spector seems to think the best compliment you can have for a European player is that they speak with not much of an accent. The guys that struggle with doing interviews in English inevitably get crapped all over.

I mean, if Hemsky had been from Banff and Smyth from Czechia, I suspect we might have a different name up on the ring of honour...

The funny (maybe just to me) thing is I wasn't think of Draisaitl's German or Euroness at all. My only thought was of him as the second banana to McDavid.


I agree with that as well. When McDavid is out, the pressure on Draisaitl looms large, especially as he's currently the holder of the biggest contract in hockey, even if that hasn't kicked in yet.

Did not think you were going the Mark Spector path, but agreeing with the other poster that it is a real thing, and that he's judged slightly differently because of it. I mean, just look at people even in here commenting on him giving grouchy answers or seeming intense or mean at times. When it's Toews or MacKinnon, everyone thinks they're being great leaders. When they're German, they just say they're "pissy".

Also, large guy with a long stride as narrative number 3. Those guys are always tarred as "lazy" or "don't care" because it looks too natural. Mediocre media guys (and lots of fans, although they're not paid to know better) always love the choppy skating styles that look like the guy is REALLY making an effort to get around the ice, even if they're not close to as fast.

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Adam wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 14:49

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 14:05


The funny (maybe just to me) thing is I wasn't think of Draisaitl's German or Euroness at all. My only thought was of him as the second banana to McDavid.


I agree with that as well. When McDavid is out, the pressure on Draisaitl looms large, especially as he's currently the holder of the biggest contract in hockey, even if that hasn't kicked in yet.

Did not think you were going the Mark Spector path, but agreeing with the other poster that it is a real thing, and that he's judged slightly differently because of it. I mean, just look at people even in here commenting on him giving grouchy answers or seeming intense or mean at times. When it's Toews or MacKinnon, everyone thinks they're being great leaders. When they're German, they just say they're "pissy".

Also, large guy with a long stride as narrative number 3. Those guys are always tarred as "lazy" or "don't care" because it looks too natural. Mediocre media guys (and lots of fans, although they're not paid to know better) always love the choppy skating styles that look like the guy is REALLY making an effort to get around the ice, even if they're not close to as fast.

Gotta say I couldn't be happier with how Draisaitl imposed himself on the game last night. From what I saw, watching between trick or treaters, he was everything you'd want a Messier to be.


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CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 01 November 2024 13:11

Adam wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 14:49

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 31 October 2024 14:05


The funny (maybe just to me) thing is I wasn't think of Draisaitl's German or Euroness at all. My only thought was of him as the second banana to McDavid.


I agree with that as well. When McDavid is out, the pressure on Draisaitl looms large, especially as he's currently the holder of the biggest contract in hockey, even if that hasn't kicked in yet.

Did not think you were going the Mark Spector path, but agreeing with the other poster that it is a real thing, and that he's judged slightly differently because of it. I mean, just look at people even in here commenting on him giving grouchy answers or seeming intense or mean at times. When it's Toews or MacKinnon, everyone thinks they're being great leaders. When they're German, they just say they're "pissy".

Also, large guy with a long stride as narrative number 3. Those guys are always tarred as "lazy" or "don't care" because it looks too natural. Mediocre media guys (and lots of fans, although they're not paid to know better) always love the choppy skating styles that look like the guy is REALLY making an effort to get around the ice, even if they're not close to as fast.

Gotta say I couldn't be happier with how Draisaitl imposed himself on the game last night. From what I saw, watching between trick or treaters, he was everything you'd want a Messier to be.



As Spec would say he's got more Camrose than Cologne to his game!

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