| 2024 training camp thread [message #837925] |
Wed, 18 September 2024 11:19  |
 benv
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Edmonton
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So with the announcement this morning of Mike Hoffman joining training camp on a PTO, it's time to get a general training camp thread going.
Here are the full list of players that will be at camp:
Forwards (32)
Arvidsson
Berglund
Brown, C
Caggiula
De Jong
Draisaitl
Griffith
Grubbe
Hamblin
Henrique
Hoffman
Hyman
Janmark
Jarventie
Kane
Lavoie
McDavid
Nicholl
Nugent-Hopkins
O'Reilly
Pederson
Perry
Petrov
Philip
Podkolzin
Ryan
Savoie
Skinner, J
Stefan
Stonehouse
Wakely
Wright
Defensemen (17)
Akey
Bouchard
Brown, J
Carrick
Corcorcan
Dermott
Dineen
Ekholm
Emberson
Gleason
Hoefenmayer
Kannok-Leipert
Kemp
Kulak
Nurse
Stetcher
Wanner
Goalies (6)
Day
Delia
Pickard
Rodrigue
Skinner, S
Ungar
We already know that Kane will miss the whole thing and Nurse and Akey will miss at least the beginning. If Hoffman can show a bit of that old scoring touch, he could be an interesting add.
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Skookum Jim
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Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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Can't believe Lajoie isn't there.. unless his playing for U of A Bears this season make attending an NHL training camp disqualify him for CIAU eligibility ?
Lajoie was the best defenseman at the prospects tourney IMHO
Long shot: Connor Corcoran on defense (RHD) may surprise.
[Updated on: Wed, 18 September 2024 19:49]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Rocksteady
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Registered: March 2007
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Okay folks... how do I miss Podkolzin?
Never heard about him at all and never knew he was a 4th round pick trade from the Canucks?
A first round 10th overall pick in 2019? Traded for a pick? No work on this board either. You failed me... ALL OF YOU!
(not really, it was posted in this forum)
How did this skate by me?
He's being shaped out as the next version of Klim. Could he be?
The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.
Generally Disappointed.
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Skookum Jim
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Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Rocksteady wrote on Thu, 19 September 2024 09:37 |
Okay folks... how do I miss Podkolzin?
Never heard about him at all and never knew he was a 4th round pick trade from the Canucks?
A first round 10th overall pick in 2019? Traded for a pick? No work on this board either. You failed me... ALL OF YOU!
(not really, it was posted in this forum)
How did this skate by me?
He's being shaped out as the next version of Klim. Could he be?
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You must have been enjoying your BBQ season down at the lake! :)
He's Russian, solid, plays with an edge.. so I can see some similarities with The Klim Reaper.. but they're really different players.. Klim was eager to scrap and initiate a scrum.. I don't really see Podz in that role..
Podz might have some more upside for offense though. From what I saw of him in Vancouver I think Podz is a conscientious player.. coachable.. not a flake.. I suspect he got lost in Vancouver with the coaching turnover.. has some skill.. decent skating.. great shot.. this is his chance to get a second opinion.
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McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Rocksteady
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Registered: March 2007
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 19 September 2024 11:50 |
You must have been enjoying your BBQ season down at the lake! :)
He's Russian, solid, plays with an edge.. so I can see some similarities with The Klim Reaper.. but they're really different players.. Klim was eager to scrap and initiate a scrum.. I don't really see Podz in that role..
Podz might have some more upside for offense though. From what I saw of him in Vancouver I think Podz is a conscientious player.. coachable.. not a flake.. I suspect he got lost in Vancouver with the coaching turnover.. has some skill.. decent skating.. great shot.. this is his chance to get a second opinion.
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I feel..... seen. lol
Thanks for the intel, thrilled he's part of us and saw him on the second line with Perry and Ryan, two real strong vets of the game. Agreed he's not a flake, just needs to find his jam and I bet Knoblauch is the guy to get it out of him.
Looking forward to it.
**lines mean absolutely nothing in preseason.
The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.
Generally Disappointed.
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Skookum Jim
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Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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1st TC session.. GROUP 1
Good to see Akey out there..
Roby Jarventie isn't going to participate in camp.. still recovering from last season knee surgery.. bummer.
No idea who Wright is.. not listed on any lists ???
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Bob Stauffer@Bob_Stauffer
Group 1
RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Podkolzin-Ryan-Perry
Lavoie-Pederson-Savoie
Wright-O'Reilly-Stefan
Clattenburg-Grubbe-De Jong
Kulak-Brown
Nurse-Emberson
Dineen-Carrick
Hoeffenmayer/Kannock-Leipert
Akey
Skinner
Rodrigue
Ungarr
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[Updated on: Thu, 19 September 2024 12:38]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Kr55
Messages: 10540
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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Mike Hoffman finally finds his way to Edmonton, half a decade late. Wonder if he would sign one of those 1M "I want to win a cup" deals. Another shooter to add to the mix.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Kr55
Messages: 10540
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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Jack Michaels @EdmontonJack
Back to work.
Lines look to be as suspected:
RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Skinner-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Janmark-Henrique-Brown
Podkolzin-Ryan-Perry
One other dynamic to keep an eye on. Seems like Jack is on the ozempic diet and rapidly shrinking.
Bob taking up double the screen space as him now on these panel discussions.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4321
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 19 September 2024 19:23 |
[i].. One other dynamic to keep an eye on. Seems like Jack is on the ozempic diet and rapidly shrinking.
Bob taking up double the screen space as him now on these panel discussions.
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Kinda related.. It was funny on ON yesterday.. Stauffer tells a story when Seravelli and Stauffer were in Edmonton at some restaurant or bar together.. they were both standing outside the restaurant talking.. along with two women who were out there vaping .. and one of the women says to them .. ".. are you two guys brothers?"
.. so after he tells the story Stauffer starts laughing and says to Seravelli on the show.. "I think a part of you died that day!.."
At least Stauffer has a sense of humour about himself.
It was on the same program that Bob talked about potential RHD solutions out there with Seravelli.. he talks about Schultz.. and Seravelli brings up De Angelo.. says its unbelievable he isn't signed to a PTO yet.. thinks he's the best UFA option out there.. then Bob asks him what he thinks about Rasmus Ristolainen in Philly (Frank lives there and knows the Philly team) .. Frank figures he's not that good.. better other options out there..
This is the 2nd or 3rd time Bob brought up Ristolainen's name as a possibility.. so where there is smoke.. ????
Problem with acquiring Ristolainen is his cap hit is $5.1M for 2 more years.. even if you got Philly to eat 1/2 thats still $2.55.. you'd likely need a 3rd party to eat another 1/2 ..
The assets required to eat the cap would be pretty substantial.. and Oilers prospects and draft pick cupboards are pretty skint..
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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 mightyreasoner
Messages: 511
Registered: October 2005
Location: Edmonton
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I'm kind of surprised they aren't moving forward initially with Janmark-Ryan-Brown after the playoff run they had.
I'd put Podkolzin with Henrique and then let Perry / Hoffman / Savoie fight for that third line spot.
RNH - McDavid - Hyman
Skinner - Draisaitl - Arvidsson
Podkolzin - Henrique - _______
Janmark - Ryan - Brown
Lavoie, Perry/Hoffman
Also discouraging to see Josh Brown starting with Kulak. Brown shouldn't be more than a #7. Wasn't he deemed the worst defenseman in the NHL last year? I know the Oilers defense is bad, but... Stetcher? Dermott?
Lots of time for things to shake out, but what is training camp without these type of observations?
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