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 Re: Broberg and Holloway GONE [message #837785 is a reply to message #837784 ]
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Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 24 August 2024 17:24

stemhovlichski wrote on Sat, 24 August 2024 16:15

Adam wrote on Sat, 24 August 2024 14:35

Kr55 wrote on Sat, 24 August 2024 12:19

Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 24 August 2024 00:17

I'm thinking Tony DeAngelo might be a good signing for a 1 year at league min..
Ex-teammate of Nurse in the Soo.. had much better offense than Nurse.. good skater.. puck mover..


Super talented. Crazy headcase that has pissed off his teammates and org everywhere he has gone.

Would certainly add some drama to the season.


We can room him with Kane!


"On March 8, 2023, the NHL Department of Player Safety issued DeAngelo a two-game suspension for spearing Tampa Bay Lightning forward Corey Perry." - wikipedia


Its settled then..

"Corey.. you've met Tony.. he'll be your room mate on the road.." icon_nod

I think I remember DeAngelo playing last season in a Hurricaes game vs. Oilers and thinking I was surprised he was so effective, super mobile, puck handler.. hadn't seen him play much in the NHL.. just associated him with news and trades.. general drama.. thought he was just a 6 or 7 D-man.. after watching him play I wondered why Oilers never got him when he was traded/signed for cheap assets..

Drafted by TB #19 overall
Traded to Coyotes for a 2nd
Traded to NYR (with a Coyotes 1st) for D. Stepan + Anti Raanta
NYR bought him out in 2021.. UFA
Signed with Carolina 2021
Traded by Carolina to Flyers in 2022..
Flyers bought him out in 2023 .. UFA
Signed back with Carolina as UFA in 2024 (last season) .. his last contract was $1.68M
..Currently UFA

Give him $1M

DeAngelos last season in OHL
Quote:

2014-2015

CHL Defenseman of the Year
OHL First All-Star Team
OHL Most Assists by Defenseman (64)
OHL Most Goals by Defenseman (25)
OHL Most Outstanding Defenseman (Max Kaminsky Trophy)
OHL Most Points by Defenseman (89)


Recent comments from DeAngelo addressing rumours he was contemplating going to the KHL..
If the KHL is looking like a viable option.. I think he could get signed for league minimum.. probably jump at it..
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Tony DeAngelo Focused on NHL Contract
Tony DeAngelo is still an unrestricted free agent and hasn’t signed a deal with an NHL club yet. That doesn’t mean he’s jumping to the KHL, as some recent rumors suggest. Instagram account @PuckEmpire posted that they reached out to the defenseman and asked if the rumors were true. DeAngelo denied them.

He noted that he’s not sure where the speculation is coming from and that he’s trying to find a spot on an NHL team. He noted, “I mean, listen. If I don’t have a deal, I would be open to playing overseas but I don’t have anything like that, even close so idk what the heck people are saying haha.”


Story behind why he got waived by NYR ..
Daily Face Off
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/former-ranger-tony-deangel o-details-infamous-fight-with-alexandar-georgiev

Podcast (good interview.. actually seems like a normal guy.. ?)
Listen to it.. apparently Brett Pesce LOVES DeAngelo (21:20).. dispels a lot of rumours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpyxezQPxKQ

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Former Rangers Defenseman Discusses Infamous Fight

The 2020-21 season was an interesting year for NHL defenseman Tony DeAngelo. It was his fourth season with the New York Rangers, he was coming off a career-high 53-point season and expectations were extremely high to continue producing.

While his play should have been the only thing doing the talking, it was DeAngelo’s mouth that got him in trouble and run out of town mid-season.

The free-agent defenseman recently sat down with Jonny Lazarus and Colby Cohen as a guest on Morning Cuppa Hockey, to give his side of the story about how his Rangers tenure concluded. A tenure that had some highs, and some very lows, including the infamous fight with then Rangers’ goaltender Alexandar Georgiev.

“It was a tough game. Georgy struggled. I struggled in the game, we’re playing against Pittsburgh (Jan/30/21), coming down the tunnel, I yelled at Georgy, ‘make a *bleeping save.’ 100%. If I didn’t yell at Georgy, Georgy wasn’t going to turn around and try to do anything. That’s a fact., so obviously I started it, and I wasn’t thinking what happened next was going to happen. That was a surprise to me as Georgy was running hot after the game.”

This is where things take a turn and escalate quickly, as Georgiev, who let in five goals against the Penguins, took matters into his own hands…or mask.

“He turns around and fires a head butt at me. So, you know he has a goalie mask on and I only have the player visor. So, I get a cut on the side of my face. There was nothing to really hit him, so I just hit him quick (swinging his stick), on the goalie mask”, DeAngelo detailed.

“It goes a little bit into the locker room, but nothing really happens, nobody is going to let guys fight in there. Guys break it up, it ends. We’re told the next day, don’t come to the rink. I had a feeling something was going to come there. I thought I was going to get traded to be honest. I wanted to be put on release waivers.”

Even though DeAngelo knew something was likely coming, he was still thrown off by how things played out from the Rangers organization. “Elliotte Friedman broke the news, I didn’t even know yet. I saw through Twitter that I was on waivers”, explained DeAngelo. “To be honest with you, it wasn’t a total shock that I was going to be out of there at that point of the season. The season started off so rocky, and a lot of it being my fault.”

DeAngelo knew the fight in the tunnel shouldn’t have happened and took a lot of accountability for his actions. Looking back, it was obvious he thought it was something the Rangers could have handled differently and he was ready to brush it off and continue on with Georgiev as his goalie.

“Me and Georgy we’re fine. We weren’t the best of buddies, never were the best of buddies, but I think we both would have came back to the rink on Tuesday and everything would have been fine.”

DeAngelo was waived and released by the Rangers and didn’t end up catching on with the Carolina Hurricanes until the following season. Georgiev on the other hand, was traded to the Colorado Avalanche two summers after the incident.

The two crossed paths just one season after the incident and this time no sticks were swung and no headbutts were delivered. “Georgy came up to me when we played the following year in Carolina. Shaking my hand, hugging me. Saying hello, I would say hello to him. It’s just the way hockey guys are.”




Lol. Imagine DeAngelo in the Oilers room at the start of last season with how Skinner and Campbell were playing.



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 Re: Broberg and Holloway GONE [message #837786 is a reply to message #837785 ]
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I’m not sure what he did, but of all the options and possibilities out there, DeAngelo sounds almost perfect. Guessing he won’t be looking for a huge payday. Looks like he can play. confused2

Certainly sounds a lot more enticing than Barrie or Shattenkirk.



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Mike wrote on Sat, 24 August 2024 19:47

I’m not sure what he did, but of all the options and possibilities out there, DeAngelo sounds almost perfect. Guessing he won’t be looking for a huge payday. Looks like he can play. confused2

Certainly sounds a lot more enticing than Barrie or Shattenkirk.


Yeah that's what I'm thinking Barrie (33) and Shattenkirk (35) are older.. on downslide.. offer some offense.. but past prime.. I'd much rather bet on DeAngelo..

DeAngelo is 28.. younger than Nurse (29)..

DeAngelo sounds like he has a high compete level.. hockey nerd..

DeAngelo would likely appreciate a chance to play with a contending team and reset his career.. he's been a ping ball for the last few years..

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Kr55 wrote on Sat, 24 August 2024 18:06

.. Lol. Imagine DeAngelo in the Oilers room at the start of last season with how Skinner and Campbell were playing.


Yeah goalies tend to be the sensitive sort.. lol
Apparently in the game that he chirped Gorgiev.. Gorgiev got lit up for 5 goals.. so probably an extra bit more touchy .. lol

Listen to the interview.. I think the guy would be great.. a bit of Drew Doughty personality..

Brett Pesce loves him.. can't believe he isn't signed.. check out Pesce's interview on Daily Face Off (@20:00) .. he gushes about DeAngelo.. especially about his PP ability..
Daily Face Off
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 Re: Broberg and Holloway GONE [message #837789 is a reply to message #837787 ]
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Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 24 August 2024 20:53

Kr55 wrote on Sat, 24 August 2024 18:06

.. Lol. Imagine DeAngelo in the Oilers room at the start of last season with how Skinner and Campbell were playing.


Yeah goalies tend to be the sensitive sort.. lol
Apparently in the game that he chirped Gorgiev.. Gorgiev got lit up for 5 goals.. so probably an extra bit more touchy .. lol

Listen to the interview.. I think the guy would be great.. a bit of Drew Doughty personality..

Brett Pesce loves him.. can't believe he isn't signed.. check out Pesce's interview on Daily Face Off (@20:00) .. he gushes about DeAngelo.. especially about his PP ability..

Mobile RHD.. at league min..? .. sign the man.. icon_nod


Think the main issue would be he doesn't like to play any defense. Guy is just pure offensive talent. Which makes it extra funny that he would be ragging on a goalie. He is never around to help any goalie he plays in front of lol.

Definitely not a guy you want with Nurse IMO. Not sure he beats Bouch for PP time either.



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 Re: Broberg and Holloway GONE [message #837790 is a reply to message #837789 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Sat, 24 August 2024 20:23

Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 24 August 2024 20:53

Kr55 wrote on Sat, 24 August 2024 18:06

.. Lol. Imagine DeAngelo in the Oilers room at the start of last season with how Skinner and Campbell were playing.


Yeah goalies tend to be the sensitive sort.. lol
Apparently in the game that he chirped Gorgiev.. Gorgiev got lit up for 5 goals.. so probably an extra bit more touchy .. lol

Listen to the interview.. I think the guy would be great.. a bit of Drew Doughty personality..

Brett Pesce loves him.. can't believe he isn't signed.. check out Pesce's interview on Daily Face Off (@20:00) .. he gushes about DeAngelo.. especially about his PP ability..

Mobile RHD.. at league min..? .. sign the man.. icon_nod


Think the main issue would be he doesn't like to play any defense. Guy is just pure offensive talent. Which makes it extra funny that he would be ragging on a goalie. He is never around to help any goalie he plays in front of lol.

Definitely not a guy you want with Nurse IMO. Not sure he beats Bouch for PP time either.


DeAngelo would agree with you, said he had an awful game same as Gorgiev, and he was no better.. regretted shooting his mouth off..

IMO he'd be a better option than Barrie or Shattenkirk.. they don't offer any defense either, and less offense at this point in their careers I'd think..
You don't need DeAngelo to replace Bouchard on PP.. but he'd be a great back up though.. and could play 2nd PP over Nurse or Ekholm.. reducing their total on-ice time.. we're also one injury (Bouchard) away from having no PP QB.

My opinion on DeAngelo's defense is open.. need to see a deep dive on his stats.. and see him play.. and I have neither.. his +- in Carolina was +30.. then -27 in Phili the next year.. enigma..

Probably can't be a worse defender than Nurse at the moment :) ..
Maybe DeAngelo plays with Kulak as 2nd pair.. Nurse drops to 3rd with Emberson/Stetcher/Brown

Even Lowetide has started to mention that maybe Nurse is warranting being dropped to 3rd pair minutes..

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