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 Adam
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Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 20 August 2024 09:37 |
| smyth260 wrote on Tue, 20 August 2024 08:50 |
I guess we will see how much damage Broberg can do as a left defender. We just didn’t have any reference point on him other than what he did in Bakersfield.
I would bet on him not living up to that contract.
Holloway could have had a great opportunity here with fantastic players, it’s a real shame he left for a smallish raise early in his career but don’t blame anybody for taking more money.
I hope I never hear the words overripe again. What a disaster Holland’s draft and development plan left us with.
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It's such a hard situation, because neither of these guys were any good in the NHL in the time they got (minus some luck and underdog energy for spurts in playoffs). There is no getting around it, these are 2 players with very questionable hockey sense, which was in all the scouting reports of them. Wonderful physical attributes, but we have seen players like this over and over again. Pulju a recent example that almost had the exact same handling as Broberg, although ended up with a rare hip issue that further derailed his career. Wasn't our former head scout a poster boy for being that kind of player? :) Physical ability far exceeding brains.
In any case. Overpaying fringe NHLers would be pretty bad for the situation we are in with Bouch, Drai and McDavid, and anyone else we negotiate with really.
Summer is honestly going close to what i hoped. The whole "Ceci is popular in the room, trading him with disrupt the chemistry" bullcrap the media fed us was clearly that, bullcrap. Bowman moving on from him gives me hope. And he must be aware of the massive hole we had/have on Nurse's right side and is on the lookout.
Maybe we have a little difficult period to start the year and he will be patient and see if some teams struggle out of the gate. Maybe a good RHD has a rough start of the year on a struggling team and we can pounce, with an extra 2nd round pick in hand and Kane's LTIR space. We're so used to GM's right zero patience that feel they have to check the boxes ASAP to go relax. Zero chance Holland trades Ceci IMO, and likely our July 1st would have been uneventful because of the fear of offersheets. We would have just gone into next season praying Knob can make a NUrse pair work with Ceci, Broberg and Stecher. I absolutely hated that idea, it wouldn't have worked and would have been a pain for Knob all year. I'm pretty happy that's not how it's gonna go.
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One positive sign:
In 2016-17, Zack Kassian had 3 goals in 14 playoff games. A couple of them were really big goals that provided emotional moments. He also threw some big hits. The Oilers were so enamoured with that that even with a different GM a year and a half later, the team gave him a big contract and referenced his playoff performance...even though 3-0-3 in 14 games isn't in hindsight a particularly significant number.
Holloway had 5-2-7 this playoff (25 games), and again some of those goals were really big and memorable ones. It seems almost like a coming out party for the player and there's a temptation to see that as a coming out party and that he's now going to be an impact player. But again, 7 points in 25 games isn't phenomenal production. A large percentage of those points came when he was elevated to the top six - he didn't generate a lot when it wasn't on Draisaitl's wings. And it's a small sample size. Just as Kassian's regular season history showed a guy who would contribute a point only every 5 or 6 games, similarly, Holloway hasn't shown a lot for hands on any consistent basis. He had just 9 points in 38 regular season games this year.
I like that the Oilers aren't getting seduced by a single playoff performance as an indicator of future value.
This week does seem like a complete repudiation of the Ken Holland era in Edmonton though. We now have no more of his first round picks left, and it's very likely that we'll start next year with ZERO of his draft picks in the roster. That's just incredible given his 5-year tenure.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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