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4.5 million increase as reported by the score, source and everywhere else.
Highest increase since 2019-2020.



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NCREDiBLE wrote on Sat, 08 June 2024 16:08

4.5 million increase as reported by the score, source and everywhere else.
Highest increase since 2019-2020.


1.5M after Connor Brown. Better than expected. Hope another nice bump for 25/26.



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I thought Browns cap hit next year was 3.2?
Well $1.5 is better than $1.3.
Hopefully no more buy outs either so we get that $1.92mill back as well from Neal.
Although some nights the thought of a Nurse buy out is tempting lol



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NCREDiBLE wrote on Sat, 08 June 2024 23:47

I thought Browns cap hit next year was 3.2?
Well $1.5 is better than $1.3.
Hopefully no more buy outs either so we get that $1.92mill back as well from Neal.
Although some nights the thought of a Nurse buy out is tempting lol


Ah crap. guess our bonus carry over is $3,550,000 total. Includes Perry I guess.

So, $950,000 extra cap space for the next GM to work with icon_dead

Then Bouch and Drai extensions to deal with the next year.

Really hope we can make this current cup run count!

[Updated on: Sun, 09 June 2024 00:17]


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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 09 June 2024 00:15

NCREDiBLE wrote on Sat, 08 June 2024 23:47

I thought Browns cap hit next year was 3.2?
Well $1.5 is better than $1.3.
Hopefully no more buy outs either so we get that $1.92mill back as well from Neal.
Although some nights the thought of a Nurse buy out is tempting lol


Ah crap. guess our bonus carry over is $3,550,000 total. Includes Perry I guess.

So, $950,000 extra cap space for the next GM to work with icon_dead

Then Bouch and Drai extensions to deal with the next year.

Really hope we can make this current cup run count!



Makes me feel that this team is going to look very different next year.



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 09 June 2024 00:15

NCREDiBLE wrote on Sat, 08 June 2024 23:47

I thought Browns cap hit next year was 3.2?
Well $1.5 is better than $1.3.
Hopefully no more buy outs either so we get that $1.92mill back as well from Neal.
Although some nights the thought of a Nurse buy out is tempting lol


Ah crap. guess our bonus carry over is $3,550,000 total. Includes Perry I guess.

So, $950,000 extra cap space for the next GM to work with icon_dead

Then Bouch and Drai extensions to deal with the next year.

Really hope we can make this current cup run count!

I think the Phoenix move to Salt Lake City will change the cap landscape. It might save Draisaitl, even at 12.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 10 June 2024 13:11

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 09 June 2024 00:15

NCREDiBLE wrote on Sat, 08 June 2024 23:47

I thought Browns cap hit next year was 3.2?
Well $1.5 is better than $1.3.
Hopefully no more buy outs either so we get that $1.92mill back as well from Neal.
Although some nights the thought of a Nurse buy out is tempting lol


Ah crap. guess our bonus carry over is $3,550,000 total. Includes Perry I guess.

So, $950,000 extra cap space for the next GM to work with icon_dead

Then Bouch and Drai extensions to deal with the next year.

Really hope we can make this current cup run count!

I think the Phoenix move to Salt Lake City will change the cap landscape. It might save Draisaitl, even at 12.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 10 June 2024 13:11

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 09 June 2024 00:15

NCREDiBLE wrote on Sat, 08 June 2024 23:47

I thought Browns cap hit next year was 3.2?
Well $1.5 is better than $1.3.
Hopefully no more buy outs either so we get that $1.92mill back as well from Neal.
Although some nights the thought of a Nurse buy out is tempting lol


Ah crap. guess our bonus carry over is $3,550,000 total. Includes Perry I guess.

So, $950,000 extra cap space for the next GM to work with icon_dead

Then Bouch and Drai extensions to deal with the next year.

Really hope we can make this current cup run count!

I think the Phoenix move to Salt Lake City will change the cap landscape. It might save Draisaitl, even at 12.



Depends on if we find a way to spend all our increased cap space for 2025-26 this summer by finding the next Connor Browns...



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Adam wrote on Mon, 10 June 2024 17:08

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 10 June 2024 13:11

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 09 June 2024 00:15

NCREDiBLE wrote on Sat, 08 June 2024 23:47

I thought Browns cap hit next year was 3.2?
Well $1.5 is better than $1.3.
Hopefully no more buy outs either so we get that $1.92mill back as well from Neal.
Although some nights the thought of a Nurse buy out is tempting lol


Ah crap. guess our bonus carry over is $3,550,000 total. Includes Perry I guess.

So, $950,000 extra cap space for the next GM to work with icon_dead

Then Bouch and Drai extensions to deal with the next year.

Really hope we can make this current cup run count!

I think the Phoenix move to Salt Lake City will change the cap landscape. It might save Draisaitl, even at 12.



Depends on if we find a way to spend all our increased cap space for 2025-26 this summer by finding the next Connor Browns...


We are next level screwed if we don't get a GM now that can properly manage the cap.

Imagine Holland trying to improve this team next year with 900k of space. He probably just immediately signs Corey for 900k base and a 3M bonus for achieving 1 microsecond of ice time.



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- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 June 2024 20:13

Adam wrote on Mon, 10 June 2024 17:08

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 10 June 2024 13:11

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 09 June 2024 00:15

NCREDiBLE wrote on Sat, 08 June 2024 23:47

I thought Browns cap hit next year was 3.2?
Well $1.5 is better than $1.3.
Hopefully no more buy outs either so we get that $1.92mill back as well from Neal.
Although some nights the thought of a Nurse buy out is tempting lol


Ah crap. guess our bonus carry over is $3,550,000 total. Includes Perry I guess.

So, $950,000 extra cap space for the next GM to work with icon_dead

Then Bouch and Drai extensions to deal with the next year.

Really hope we can make this current cup run count!

I think the Phoenix move to Salt Lake City will change the cap landscape. It might save Draisaitl, even at 12.



Depends on if we find a way to spend all our increased cap space for 2025-26 this summer by finding the next Connor Browns...


We are next level screwed if we don't get a GM now that can properly manage the cap.

Imagine Holland trying to improve this team next year with 900k of space. He probably just immediately signs Corey for 900k base and a 3M bonus for achieving 1 microsecond of ice time.


I've railed against buyouts for years, but looking at the savings for Campbell, I think he absolutely needs to be bought out.

We would have 3 years of $1.5M dead space on the tail end, but savings of $3.9M, $2.7M, and $2.4M the next 3 years. Should be more than enough to find a backup.



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Mike wrote on Tue, 11 June 2024 13:06

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 June 2024 20:13

Adam wrote on Mon, 10 June 2024 17:08

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 10 June 2024 13:11

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 09 June 2024 00:15

NCREDiBLE wrote on Sat, 08 June 2024 23:47

I thought Browns cap hit next year was 3.2?
Well $1.5 is better than $1.3.
Hopefully no more buy outs either so we get that $1.92mill back as well from Neal.
Although some nights the thought of a Nurse buy out is tempting lol


Ah crap. guess our bonus carry over is $3,550,000 total. Includes Perry I guess.

So, $950,000 extra cap space for the next GM to work with icon_dead

Then Bouch and Drai extensions to deal with the next year.

Really hope we can make this current cup run count!

I think the Phoenix move to Salt Lake City will change the cap landscape. It might save Draisaitl, even at 12.



Depends on if we find a way to spend all our increased cap space for 2025-26 this summer by finding the next Connor Browns...


We are next level screwed if we don't get a GM now that can properly manage the cap.

Imagine Holland trying to improve this team next year with 900k of space. He probably just immediately signs Corey for 900k base and a 3M bonus for achieving 1 microsecond of ice time.


I've railed against buyouts for years, but looking at the savings for Campbell, I think he absolutely needs to be bought out.

We would have 3 years of $1.5M dead space on the tail end, but savings of $3.9M, $2.7M, and $2.4M the next 3 years. Should be more than enough to find a backup.

I tend to agree on this. The goal has to be winning next year and, obviously, this year too. But in the last year of Drai's contract they have to go for it.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 11 June 2024 14:52

Mike wrote on Tue, 11 June 2024 13:06

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 June 2024 20:13

Adam wrote on Mon, 10 June 2024 17:08

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 10 June 2024 13:11

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 09 June 2024 00:15

NCREDiBLE wrote on Sat, 08 June 2024 23:47

I thought Browns cap hit next year was 3.2?
Well $1.5 is better than $1.3.
Hopefully no more buy outs either so we get that $1.92mill back as well from Neal.
Although some nights the thought of a Nurse buy out is tempting lol


Ah crap. guess our bonus carry over is $3,550,000 total. Includes Perry I guess.

So, $950,000 extra cap space for the next GM to work with icon_dead

Then Bouch and Drai extensions to deal with the next year.

Really hope we can make this current cup run count!

I think the Phoenix move to Salt Lake City will change the cap landscape. It might save Draisaitl, even at 12.


Depends on if we find a way to spend all our increased cap space for 2025-26 this summer by finding the next Connor Browns...


We are next level screwed if we don't get a GM now that can properly manage the cap.

Imagine Holland trying to improve this team next year with 900k of space. He probably just immediately signs Corey for 900k base and a 3M bonus for achieving 1 microsecond of ice time.


I've railed against buyouts for years, but looking at the savings for Campbell, I think he absolutely needs to be bought out.

We would have 3 years of $1.5M dead space on the tail end, but savings of $3.9M, $2.7M, and $2.4M the next 3 years. Should be more than enough to find a backup.

I tend to agree on this. The goal has to be winning next year and, obviously, this year too. But in the last year of Drai's contract they have to go for it.



The new GM's job won't be an easy one. With Draisaitl and Bouchard in their last year, we need to find a way to both be competitive next year AND to have enough room to hopefully sign those guys.

Also - build better depth, a better blueline and a backup plan on goaltender. It's a demanding role.

I think that means finding some way out of Campbell's deal (I still think he has a career ending injury in him), dealing Kane for whatever you can get for him, dealing Ceci for whatever you can get for him and checking to see if there's a party who can take Nurse without leaving us with an ungodly amount of his salary.

Question - can you deal a guy to a team and then have them immediately trade him back to you to offload some of his salary? I know someone did trade someone to a team to have him bought out so they could re-sign him cheaper previously...

We're going to need to have someone in charge who's able to find all the ways to skirt the edges here over the next couple of years. We have a cap crunch coming, so we just can't afford a bunch of brutal contracts for third pairing defencemen and depth players. The team is going to have to find more creative ways of attracting talent than just throwing money at free agents.



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With Broberg's play in the playoffs, he's looking like the guy they were hoping he would be when they drafted and I think allows them to move a dman with some confidence. His cap hit is only 863K and he basically played the whole year in the AHL and hasn't completely established himself as a full time NHLer so what he will get in a new contract shouldn't be much more than what he's making in NHL salary. Even if you just give him a raise of 100K for an NHL salary but if you give him a 1 way, that's a hell of a raise from the 70K he was making in the AHL.


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Adam wrote on Tue, 11 June 2024 15:04

The new GM's job won't be an easy one. With Draisaitl and Bouchard in their last year, we need to find a way to both be competitive next year AND to have enough room to hopefully sign those guys.

Also - build better depth, a better blueline and a backup plan on goaltender. It's a demanding role.

I think that means finding some way out of Campbell's deal (I still think he has a career ending injury in him), dealing Kane for whatever you can get for him, dealing Ceci for whatever you can get for him and checking to see if there's a party who can take Nurse without leaving us with an ungodly amount of his salary.

Question - can you deal a guy to a team and then have them immediately trade him back to you to offload some of his salary? I know someone did trade someone to a team to have him bought out so they could re-sign him cheaper previously...

We're going to need to have someone in charge who's able to find all the ways to skirt the edges here over the next couple of years. We have a cap crunch coming, so we just can't afford a bunch of brutal contracts for third pairing defencemen and depth players. The team is going to have to find more creative ways of attracting talent than just throwing money at free agents.



Maybe Campbell "retires" to start a yoga retreat.. 🙂 🤞🏻

RE: Trading.. then re-acquiring a player.. have to wait a year per CBA..

However.. one loop-hole I see is.. if you trade a player away.. then the player violated the terms of the contract (SPC).. that team Terminates the contract.. you can then re-sign the player within a year.. but.. the cause for termination of contract would have to be pretty substantial.

Another loop-hole could be to trade away the player.. the player "retires" .. contract terminates.. then the player "un-retires" and re-signs with original club within that year.. would probably only happen once though before the loophole was closed.. or.. the Oilers do try it first .. and the NHL doesn't approve the contract because it "violates the original intent of the salary cap" .. because Oilers, and not Vegas, ingenuity.. :) .. could also be another complete CBA section on retirement I'm not aware of that prohibits this.. might be you can't un-retire before a year.

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From the CBA:

(C) Under no circumstances may a Club:

(3) Reacquire within one (1) calendar year from the date of that Retained Salary Transaction an SPC (Standard Player Contract) the Averaged Amount and Player Salary and Bonuses of which that Club agreed to retain as part of a Retained Salary Transaction;

Illustration: If Club A Trades a Player to Club B and retains 30% of the Averaged Amount of such Player's SPC in a Retained Salary Transaction, Club A cannot reacquire such Player's SPC within one (1) calendar year from the date of the Trade. However, if such Player's Retained 273 ARTICLE 50 50.5-50.5 Salary SPC expires or is otherwise terminated prior to one (1) calendar year from the date of the Trade such that it no longer exists, Club A may reacquire the Player since the Retained Salary SPC no longer exists.

or

(4) Reacquire as part of a Retained Salary Transaction the SPC of a Player who was on that Club's Reserve List within the past calendar year;

Illustration: If Club A Trades the SPC of a Player to Club B (the "Initial Trade"), Club B cannot subsequently Trade an SPC of such Player back to Club A within one (1) calendar year from the date of the Initial Trade and retain a portion of the Averaged Amount of that SPC pursuant to a Retained Salary Transaction. However, Club B may Trade an SPC of the Player back to Club A within one (1) calendar year from the date of the Initial Trade if Club B does not retain any portion of such Player's SPC.


* SPC means Standard Player Contract
* Reserve List is all the players a team has rights to (including players under contract and unsigned draft picks).


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At the end of the day, this is a business and the majority of players just want to be paid. Campbell is owed 13.5 mill for the rest of his contract. So is there a kind of shady way where the Oilers go to Campbell and just be honest. "You are a good dude, we appreciate all your hard work and the work you have put into yourself but you aren't playing for our team ever again. We signed you to start, it didn't work out and we have our starter in Skinner. He's younger, better and cheaper. You can ride the bus in the minors for the rest of your contract and be at best a backup because we are going to keep playing younger guys that need development. OR you can agree to terminate your contract and we will pay you what we owe you under the table from Katz's ____ account. Then you and your young new wife can do off to Europe, sign with a team, go play stress free hockey if you want, which will be good for your mental health. Get yourself another dog and have a couple of kids in some mountain town in Switzerland.

Katz is a billionaire. I am sure he has all kinds of secret accounts to hide money. All those rich guys do. Or have Katz buy some property that is worth 13.5 mil then sell it to Campbell for $1. If you own a property, you can sell it to whoever you want for whatever you want.

If Campbell came out and mentioned he wanted to step away from the NHL for a less stressful environment due to mental health, I don't think 1 person would question it and he would get supported for it. Mental health is taken way more serious now, he's had a history of being super hard on himself to the point people are like "Dude, ease up". He's talked to mental health people not only while being an Oiler but a Leaf and it's clear I don't think it's ability, it's between the ears.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 12 June 2024 10:26

At the end of the day, this is a business and the majority of players just want to be paid. Campbell is owed 13.5 mill for the rest of his contract. So is there a kind of shady way where the Oilers go to Campbell and just be honest. "You are a good dude, we appreciate all your hard work and the work you have put into yourself but you aren't playing for our team ever again. We signed you to start, it didn't work out and we have our starter in Skinner. He's younger, better and cheaper. You can ride the bus in the minors for the rest of your contract and be at best a backup because we are going to keep playing younger guys that need development. OR you can agree to terminate your contract and we will pay you what we owe you under the table from Katz's ____ account. Then you and your young new wife can do off to Europe, sign with a team, go play stress free hockey if you want, which will be good for your mental health. Get yourself another dog and have a couple of kids in some mountain town in Switzerland.

Katz is a billionaire. I am sure he has all kinds of secret accounts to hide money. All those rich guys do. Or have Katz buy some property that is worth 13.5 mil then sell it to Campbell for $1. If you own a property, you can sell it to whoever you want for whatever you want.

If Campbell came out and mentioned he wanted to step away from the NHL for a less stressful environment due to mental health, I don't think 1 person would question it and he would get supported for it. Mental health is taken way more serious now, he's had a history of being super hard on himself to the point people are like "Dude, ease up". He's talked to mental health people not only while being an Oiler but a Leaf and it's clear I don't think it's ability, it's between the ears.


^Makes sense. I'm sure Katz had a secret account to where he compensated Duncan Keith well (under the table) during the last year of his contract as incentive to retire early.



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kungpaobenji27 wrote on Thu, 13 June 2024 13:05

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 12 June 2024 10:26

At the end of the day, this is a business and the majority of players just want to be paid. Campbell is owed 13.5 mill for the rest of his contract. So is there a kind of shady way where the Oilers go to Campbell and just be honest. "You are a good dude, we appreciate all your hard work and the work you have put into yourself but you aren't playing for our team ever again. We signed you to start, it didn't work out and we have our starter in Skinner. He's younger, better and cheaper. You can ride the bus in the minors for the rest of your contract and be at best a backup because we are going to keep playing younger guys that need development. OR you can agree to terminate your contract and we will pay you what we owe you under the table from Katz's ____ account. Then you and your young new wife can do off to Europe, sign with a team, go play stress free hockey if you want, which will be good for your mental health. Get yourself another dog and have a couple of kids in some mountain town in Switzerland.

Katz is a billionaire. I am sure he has all kinds of secret accounts to hide money. All those rich guys do. Or have Katz buy some property that is worth 13.5 mil then sell it to Campbell for $1. If you own a property, you can sell it to whoever you want for whatever you want.

If Campbell came out and mentioned he wanted to step away from the NHL for a less stressful environment due to mental health, I don't think 1 person would question it and he would get supported for it. Mental health is taken way more serious now, he's had a history of being super hard on himself to the point people are like "Dude, ease up". He's talked to mental health people not only while being an Oiler but a Leaf and it's clear I don't think it's ability, it's between the ears.


^Makes sense. I'm sure Katz had a secret account to where he compensated Duncan Keith well (under the table) during the last year of his contract as incentive to retire early.


Obviously I don't think it will happen but what the hell, dare to dream!

I'd be curious to know why Campbell thought it would be a good idea to sign with the Oilers. I get they gave him the money and term he wanted but mental issues plagued him in Toronto so did he actually think it would be better in Edmonton mentally? Toronto might be slightly more intense but not by much.



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