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 Gator21
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Registered: February 2016
Location: Kelowna, BC
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Game 1 Saturday Jun 8th @ 6 pm
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K.McC#24
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Location: ALBERTA
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Just checking in, I'm so happy for the Oilers and my fellow long term (and newer) Oilfans to get to see another chance at the Stanley Cup!
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mad90
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Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Same here! Don’t speak much but I am always lurking. Nice to have a thread like this!
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Suomalainen
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Location: Boulder, CO
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Screw it. Oilers in 6.
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K.McC#24
Messages: 2834
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Location: ALBERTA
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I'm in, buddy.
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CrusaderPi
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Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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| Suomalainen wrote on Sun, 02 June 2024 22:26 |
Screw it. Oilers in 6.
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Why not? I see no reason why this can't happen. Win the cup at home.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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benv
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Edmonton
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Let me be the first to post an interesting fact about this series. Almost exactly 10 years after being the top four picks in the 2014 draft, Aaron Ekblad, Sam Reinhart, Leon Draisaitl, and Sam Bennett will now all participate in the 2024 Stanley Cup Final.
Bet that's never happened before.
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Skookum Jim
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Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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Hey.. are turtles endangered species in Florida?
Gonna be like old times..
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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tardigrade81
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Registered: November 2022
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
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Sign Kassian back. Quick!!! I wanna see Tkachuk get his ass kicker again
In all seriousness this series will be very tough
Oilers in 7!
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benv
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Edmonton
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The Elks' season opener against the Riders was scheduled for Saturday, 5pm at Commonwealth Stadium. Glad to see the team being proactive--they've already rescheduled the game to start at 2pm to avoid overlap with game 1 of the SCF.
Now if they were really smart they would invite fans to stay after the football game and watch game 1 on the big screen in Commonwealth--could be a hell of a fun double header. (although I'm not sure if they are allowed to do that as there's never been a lot of cooperation between the two teams).
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CrusaderPi
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Location: AB Highway 100
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| benv wrote on Mon, 03 June 2024 10:14 |
The Elks' season opener against the Riders was scheduled for Saturday, 5pm at Commonwealth Stadium. Glad to see the team being proactive--they've already rescheduled the game to start at 2pm to avoid overlap with game 1 of the SCF.
Now if they were really smart they would invite fans to stay after the football game and watch game 1 on the big screen in Commonwealth--could be a hell of a fun double header. (although I'm not sure if they are allowed to do that as there's never been a lot of cooperation between the two teams).
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The Trappers used to do this way back when. Game time @7:05 unless the Oilers are playing then it's 2:05.
Going down onto the turf at Commonwealth with a lawn chair, sixer, and a way to get hot dogs in me would be a pretty alright Saturday night.
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Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Hibernia
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Registered: October 1998
Location: Sin John's
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I may not sleep for the next two, two and a half weeks.
The wife twisted my rubber arm last night and convinced me to go to a game. So, I'm hoping the series goes 5! Any other Oilfans going to be going to any games down in FLA?
What happened to all of my messages? lol (I guess it's been awhile) BlueSky: StefBarnes
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Mike
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| Hibernia wrote on Mon, 03 June 2024 13:40 |
I may not sleep for the next two, two and a half weeks.
The wife twisted my rubber arm last night and convinced me to go to a game. So, I'm hoping the series goes 5! Any other Oilfans going to be going to any games down in FLA?
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My wife said I should go - I was debating going down to Florida for games 1 and 2, but I think I'll go to Edmonton for game 4 instead. Maybe go and watch game 3 outside of Rogers Place.
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I thought going to game one, was at game 6 last night with my son, which was amazing, but the tickets in Florida are more than Edmonton. So TV it is lol
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 Kr55
Messages: 10767
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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Gonna take a break from doubting that Knob and this crew can pull off. Florida is a solid team, but so was Dallas. I think Maurice is a "motivator" type of coach, not particularly strong technically, so it's possible the Knob can find some openings.
Let's see where this goes. We have the best players still that can break any game open.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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JPro
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Registered: January 2006
Location: Edmonton
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Anyone else wake up today with the biggest crap eating grin? I know I did.
Oilers in 6. I think Bobrovsky will be the third most difficult goaltender the Oilers will face along this run. Combine that with our new penchant for strong starts to games, and I think taking home the cup is a very realistic expectation here.
That 2006 feeling is back and life is good.
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Kr55
Messages: 10767
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| JPro wrote on Mon, 03 June 2024 12:56 |
Anyone else wake up today with the biggest crap eating grin? I know I did.
Oilers in 6. I think Bobrovsky will be the third most difficult goaltender the Oilers will face along this run. Combine that with our new penchant for strong starts to games, and I think taking home the cup is a very realistic expectation here.
That 2006 feeling is back and life is good.
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Bobo is a wildcard. Super streaky his whole career. His games vs Vegas last year: .879, .692, .926, .903, .742
He was red hot for rounds 2 and 3 last year, and then after a week off, was ice cold. Let's hope there is a repeat.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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CrusaderPi
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Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 03 June 2024 13:20 |
| JPro wrote on Mon, 03 June 2024 12:56 |
Anyone else wake up today with the biggest crap eating grin? I know I did.
Oilers in 6. I think Bobrovsky will be the third most difficult goaltender the Oilers will face along this run. Combine that with our new penchant for strong starts to games, and I think taking home the cup is a very realistic expectation here.
That 2006 feeling is back and life is good.
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Bobo is a wildcard. Super streaky his whole career. His games vs Vegas last year: .879, .692, .926, .903, .742
He was red hot for rounds 2 and 3 last year, and then after a week off, was ice cold. Let's hope there is a repeat.
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I really hate the week off. I want hockey now.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4418
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 03 June 2024 14:00 |
.. I really hate the week off. I want hockey now.
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.. but on the bright side.. there's a few Oilers that will appreciate the 5 days .. Kane.. LD.. Perry.. Ryan.. Henrique.. 
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Leia
Messages: 410
Registered: May 2003
Location: England
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 03 June 2024 15:04 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 03 June 2024 14:00 |
.. I really hate the week off. I want hockey now.
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.. but on the bright side.. there's a few Oilers that will appreciate the 5 days .. Kane.. LD.. Perry.. Ryan.. Henrique..
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It also gives some of us based overseas to find that old friend called sleep... 4/5 hours sleep every other day has taken it's toll. This next week will be so refreshing.
I know I hate the idea of a week off, I'd rather we just got on with it, it does give all the players some time to rest up and get as close to 100% as they can be for the finals. Even more of a gripe is that they've given an extra day off for the travel days. That extends the finals further.
Looking forward to this series, that 06 run, though some time ago is still raw not only for what happened in the final, but the consequences of what happened the years after it. A win would go some way to rub that out of my mind.
Take me home, country road
to the place where I belong
to Alberta, to see the Oilers
take me home, country road
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4418
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Leia wrote on Mon, 03 June 2024 14:18 |
.. It also gives some of us based overseas to find that old friend called sleep... 4/5 hours sleep every other day has taken it's toll. This next week will be so refreshing.
I know I hate the idea of a week off, I'd rather we just got on with it, it does give all the players some time to rest up and get as close to 100% as they can be for the finals. Even more of a gripe is that they've given an extra day off for the travel days. That extends the finals further.
Looking forward to this series, that 06 run, though some time ago is still raw not only for what happened in the final, but the consequences of what happened the years after it. A win would go some way to rub that out of my mind.
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.. rest up Leia.. great to know we have those Oil positive waves covering the globe .. kinda like the Northern Lights.. Oiler Borealis ! :)
Its been a journey .. enjoy the ride!
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Mike
Messages: 1396
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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Flights - ✅
Hotel - ✅
Game 4 ticket - ✅ *
This will be my first game at Rogers Place. Last one was at Rexall in March 2016 (second or 3rd last game there I believe)
I’ve travelled quite a lot in my life, but M about as excited about this trip as any I’ve ever been on. Going to be a long 10 days.
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Mike
Messages: 1396
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| Mike wrote on Mon, 03 June 2024 23:23 |
Flights - ✅
Hotel - ✅
Game 4 ticket - ✅ *
This will be my first game at Rogers Place. Last one was at Rexall in March 2016 (second or 3rd last game there I believe)
I’ve travelled quite a lot in my life, but M about as excited about this trip as any I’ve ever been on. Going to be a long 10 days.
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Holy crap - it's only been like 10 hours? Man...gonna be a long 9 more days
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Oscargasm
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Registered: May 2009
Location: YEG
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| Mike wrote on Tue, 04 June 2024 06:00 |
| Mike wrote on Mon, 03 June 2024 23:23 |
Flights - ✅
Hotel - ✅
Game 4 ticket - ✅ *
This will be my first game at Rogers Place. Last one was at Rexall in March 2016 (second or 3rd last game there I believe)
I’ve travelled quite a lot in my life, but M about as excited about this trip as any I’ve ever been on. Going to be a long 10 days.
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Holy crap - it's only been like 10 hours? Man...gonna be a long 9 more days
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Simply incredible. Once the boys get going it is going to go by so fast. We need to enjoy this as much as we can in the time we have. LFGOOOOOOILERS!
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Adam
Messages: 7174
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 04 June 2024 12:25 |
| Mike wrote on Tue, 04 June 2024 06:00 |
| Mike wrote on Mon, 03 June 2024 23:23 |
Flights - ✅
Hotel - ✅
Game 4 ticket - ✅ *
This will be my first game at Rogers Place. Last one was at Rexall in March 2016 (second or 3rd last game there I believe)
I’ve travelled quite a lot in my life, but M about as excited about this trip as any I’ve ever been on. Going to be a long 10 days.
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Holy crap - it's only been like 10 hours? Man...gonna be a long 9 more days
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Simply incredible. Once the boys get going it is going to go by so fast. We need to enjoy this as much as we can in the time we have. LFGOOOOOOILERS!
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I don't know - that third period Sunday felt like it took 5-6 hours to get to the buzzer...
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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kungpaobenji27
Messages: 340
Registered: August 2003
Location: Irving, Texas
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| Adam wrote on Tue, 04 June 2024 15:21 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 04 June 2024 12:25 |
| Mike wrote on Tue, 04 June 2024 06:00 |
| Mike wrote on Mon, 03 June 2024 23:23 |
Flights - ✅
Hotel - ✅
Game 4 ticket - ✅ *
This will be my first game at Rogers Place. Last one was at Rexall in March 2016 (second or 3rd last game there I believe)
I’ve travelled quite a lot in my life, but M about as excited about this trip as any I’ve ever been on. Going to be a long 10 days.
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Holy crap - it's only been like 10 hours? Man...gonna be a long 9 more days
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Simply incredible. Once the boys get going it is going to go by so fast. We need to enjoy this as much as we can in the time we have. LFGOOOOOOILERS!
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I don't know - that third period Sunday felt like it took 5-6 hours to get to the buzzer...
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Tried my hardest to ignore the final ticking minutes of game 6....
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It's going to be long week waiting for Sat. 😵💫
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Holy snikes this will be longest distance SCF in history?! 2,541 miles to be exact. A flight from Edmonton to Florida is over 5 hrs long? It would be shorter travel from Edmonton to Greenland and Russia?
https://www.tiktok.com/@bardown/video/7376256760174152966
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inverno76
Messages: 2340
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Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
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The older you get, the more you appreciate these things. I haven’t stopped smiling since Play LaBamba blasted in the rink last night!
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Hibernia
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Registered: October 1998
Location: Sin John's
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Is it time to find a Miami Marlins message board and take it over again?
What happened to all of my messages? lol (I guess it's been awhile) BlueSky: StefBarnes
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Kr55
Messages: 10767
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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If anyone wants something to get mad about to keep in their pocket for now, Gregory Campbell is the assistant GM of the Panthers. Same Gregory, son of Colin, that was on the Bruins in 2011 when the Canucks suddenly could not get calls anymore with their diving and turned into crying rag dolls in the Finals :)
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Rocksteady
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2006 was a distant memory.. I've mentioned how much things have changed since then and while I am much older the thought of the finals with the Oilers just makes me giddy.
Honestly I don't know what to expect LeBrun posted a thing on twitter saying he's interview 33 or so current NHL head coaches or NHL executives and they say out of the 33, only 4 think the Oilers will take it.
The entire hockey world thought that Dallas was going to eat the Oilers lunch, didn't happen. Local media say the Oilers are just more refined and can compete with anyone in the league, but you seem to find everyone saying it's going to go Florida's way.
I reserve my chicken little predictions until the 1st game is played before we see what we have, the Oilers do horribly after a few days off, so this week is going to be tense for them.
Man alive, the Oilers are in the finals.
*edit: it was 33 not 17
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The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.
Generally Disappointed.
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Suomalainen
Messages: 900
Registered: May 2002
Location: Boulder, CO
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I read the Athletic article this morning, and it's even worse than that. It's 16/17 current NHL coaches think it's going to Florida, most in 6, the rest in 7.
Then, only 3 execs or scouts think the oilers will win.
That means 4/33 League professionals think the oilers will do it. Most cite Florida having been here last year and playing a heavy game.
Underdogs.
97.
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RDOilerfan
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Registered: January 2016
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| Suomalainen wrote on Wed, 05 June 2024 08:59 |
I read the Athletic article this morning, and it's even worse than that. It's 16/17 current NHL coaches think it's going to Florida, most in 6, the rest in 7.
Then, only 3 execs or scouts think the oilers will win.
That means 4/33 League professionals think the oilers will do it. Most cite Florida having been here last year and playing a heavy game.
Underdogs.
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I am cool if people think the Oilers won't win. I am not sure the Oilers actually do well mentally for the most part when they are seen as the favorite. I take how they started this season when a ton of "experts" pick the Oilers to roll teams. I am of course bias so I am picking the Oilers but my reason is McDavid. He's the best player since Gretzky. He's been pretty good this playoff but up until game 6 he wasn't WOW. He was WOW in that first period. The Oilers in that game did a great job limiting Dallas's grade A's but they did sit back too much. I am sure they learned they can't that much as that game almost slipped through their fingers.
The true great players are often judged based on if they win or not. I think the Stanley Cup is the hardest trophy to win in pro sports. Yes you have to have a good team that your managers builds, yes you have to have a good coach but there is a lot of luck that needs to go your way. Luck in the games getting bounces and luck with injuries. A perfectly coached and perfectly built team can lose if the injury bug hits key guys at key times. I think McD will get more chances at the cup but I think he will play as if this is his only shot.
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Kr55
Messages: 10767
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Suomalainen wrote on Wed, 05 June 2024 08:59 |
I read the Athletic article this morning, and it's even worse than that. It's 16/17 current NHL coaches think it's going to Florida, most in 6, the rest in 7.
Then, only 3 execs or scouts think the oilers will win.
That means 4/33 League professionals think the oilers will do it. Most cite Florida having been here last year and playing a heavy game.
Underdogs.
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Always better to be seen as the underdog.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Adam
Messages: 7174
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 05 June 2024 09:24 |
| Suomalainen wrote on Wed, 05 June 2024 08:59 |
I read the Athletic article this morning, and it's even worse than that. It's 16/17 current NHL coaches think it's going to Florida, most in 6, the rest in 7.
Then, only 3 execs or scouts think the oilers will win.
That means 4/33 League professionals think the oilers will do it. Most cite Florida having been here last year and playing a heavy game.
Underdogs.
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Always better to be seen as the underdog.
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I hope the Panthers read ALL those predictions. And the Oilers, for that matter.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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benv
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Location: Edmonton
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Moneypuck, which uses nothing but math to make its predictions has the Oilers as a very small favourite to win: 52.5% to 47.5%.
https://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm
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Kr55
Messages: 10767
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| benv wrote on Wed, 05 June 2024 09:59 |
Moneypuck, which uses nothing but math to make its predictions has the Oilers as a very small favourite to win: 52.5% to 47.5%.
https://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm
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That's an interesting one! Florida has dominated possession 5v5 through the playoffs, and would expect them to get the thumbs up by more analytics models. However, looks like moneypuck does account for special teams quite a bit, which probably gives us a boost.
Do hope the refs aren't scared to make calls in the finals. Need the Knob to figure out some good strategies to counter the relentless Florida attack.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Adam
Messages: 7174
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 05 June 2024 10:04 |
| benv wrote on Wed, 05 June 2024 09:59 |
Moneypuck, which uses nothing but math to make its predictions has the Oilers as a very small favourite to win: 52.5% to 47.5%.
https://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm
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That's an interesting one! Florida has dominated possession 5v5 through the playoffs, and would expect them to get the thumbs up by more analytics models. However, looks like moneypuck does account for special teams quite a bit, which probably gives us a boost.
Do hope the refs aren't scared to make calls in the finals. Need the Knob to figure out some good strategies to counter the relentless Florida attack.
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The refs are a really interesting storyline. Florida's kind of bullied their way through a lot of the first three rounds. They have so many dirtbag players. They have 207 penalty minutes so far, compared to 171 for the Oilers, 146 for the Rangers and just 92 for the Stars. Worth noting, that's slightly skewed by the fact that the Panthers and Bruins took a ton of misconducts against each other.
They've done a tremendous job on the kill at over 88%, but they haven't had to worry about a PP quite like the Oilers. Rangers were 24.0% in the playoffs, Bruins were 21.2%, and Lightning were 20.0%. Edmonton is humming along at 37.3%.
So does that mean they back off a little from that edge, in fear of the Oilers man advantage? Or do the refs just change the standard even more for the Finals and let full-scale mugging take place all over the ice?
Interesting looking at the stats, because the Panthers have almost two full minutes more of powerplay time than the Oilers through three rounds. Refs have called lots of penalties in their games, and relatively few in ours. The Oilers averaging the 13th most PP time/game in the post-season (although scoring on so many PPs might impact that number a bit too).
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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