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Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #5) [message #834207] |
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 tardigrade81
Messages: 2266
Registered: November 2022
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
2 Cups
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No words. First period was good. We just can’t put together a full 60 minutes
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HamBlaster
Messages: 989
Registered: June 2007
No Cups
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They couldn't even put together a solid 40.
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4419
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
4 Cups
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As soon as I saw Nurse on the ice for the last seconds.. I flinched.. game over.
Have no idea what he was thinking.. back off on the guy with the puck in the corner so he has time to make a game winning play?
4 bit processor.
[Updated on: Thu, 16 May 2024 22:55]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Kr55
Messages: 10777
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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Didn't deserve this game. Maybe the big boys are tired. That's a consequence of bad depth.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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g2k
Messages: 2840
Registered: January 2003
Location: The Hood
2 Cups
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| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 22:47 |
Didn't deserve this game. Maybe the big boys are tired. That's a consequence of bad depth.
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Heavy minutes in game 3 catching up finally?
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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Kr55
Messages: 10777
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| g2k wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 22:51 |
| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 22:47 |
Didn't deserve this game. Maybe the big boys are tired. That's a consequence of bad depth.
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Heavy minutes in game 3 catching up finally?
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Could be. We simply can never let them rest at any point.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4419
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
4 Cups
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They're 2 d-men short of a contending D-squad.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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watchman
Messages: 1422
Registered: October 2019
Location: River City
1 Cup
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 22:48 |
They're 2 d-men short of a contending D-squad.
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maybe 25/2 weren't the best choices to be out there. How about 14/73?
...this time, it's for real (isn't it?).
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Mike
Messages: 1397
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
1 Cup
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Helluva game by Pickard again. If not for him this was over 15 minutes ago.
McDavid with one of his worst playoff games ever I think. Draisaitl with a good start, then nothing. Bouchard with that great move leading to a GA. And Nurse - you watch him and it’s like there’s a 2 second delay before he reacts to the play. I’d trade him straight up for Zadorov right now.
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Jay
Messages: 567
Registered: January 2007
Location: Edmonton
No Cups
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| Mike wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 22:53 |
I’d trade him straight up for Zadorov right now.
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This is a joke right? They'd need to add bouchard to not get laughed out of the building.
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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g2k
Messages: 2840
Registered: January 2003
Location: The Hood
2 Cups
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Don’t even lightly entertain allowing Skinner anywhere near that crease on Saturday.
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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Leia
Messages: 410
Registered: May 2003
Location: England
No Cups
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The one part of our game that you'd expect to do it's job delivered a bum note, can't call out the PP normally, but to go 0/5 and only 3 possibly 4 shots on it 
McDavid wasn't at the races at all, but that's the bad game out of the way now, back home and do the business on Saturday.
Take me home, country road
to the place where I belong
to Alberta, to see the Oilers
take me home, country road
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HamBlaster
Messages: 989
Registered: June 2007
No Cups
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The Oilers Jekyll and Hyde season continues. They play a great game two days ago, and get caved in statistically in this one. This game wasn't even close.
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Mike
Messages: 1397
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
1 Cup
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| g2k wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 01:51 |
Don’t even lightly entertain allowing Skinner anywhere near that crease on Saturday.
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How good was Pickard tonight? First star on the Oilers for sure! Too bad they couldn’t give him any run support.
Normally a goal like that at the end goes in and I get angry and blurt out a few F bombs. This one went in and I just felt like “yup”. Despite the score, this was an absolute poop kicking tonight from the end of the first to the final buzzer. An embarrassing game from almost any Oiler not named Pickard.
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4419
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
4 Cups
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| Mike wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 22:14 |
| g2k wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 01:51 |
Don’t even lightly entertain allowing Skinner anywhere near that crease on Saturday.
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How good was Pickard tonight? First star on the Oilers for sure! Too bad they couldn’t give him any run support.
Normally a goal like that at the end goes in and I get angry and blurt out a few F bombs. This one went in and I just felt like “yup”. Despite the score, this was an absolute poop kicking tonight from the end of the first to the final buzzer. An embarrassing game from almost any Oiler not named Pickard.
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I knew something bad was going top happen as soon as I saw Nurse on the ice at the end.. just stared at lundstrom and waited as he passed it past him (like he wasn't even there..) for the GWG.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Mike
Messages: 1397
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
1 Cup
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 02:18 |
| Mike wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 22:14 |
| g2k wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 01:51 |
Don’t even lightly entertain allowing Skinner anywhere near that crease on Saturday.
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How good was Pickard tonight? First star on the Oilers for sure! Too bad they couldn’t give him any run support.
Normally a goal like that at the end goes in and I get angry and blurt out a few F bombs. This one went in and I just felt like “yup”. Despite the score, this was an absolute poop kicking tonight from the end of the first to the final buzzer. An embarrassing game from almost any Oiler not named Pickard.
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I knew something bad was going top happen as soon as I saw Nurse on the ice at the end.. just stared at lundstrom and waited as he passed it past him (like he wasn't even there..) for the GWG.
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I think his decision making is slower than ever. Like that Kopitar goal last series. He doesn’t react right away to problems - it’s like there’s a delay in registering the issue
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4419
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
4 Cups
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| Mike wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 22:22 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 02:18 |
| Mike wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 22:14 |
| g2k wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 01:51 |
Don’t even lightly entertain allowing Skinner anywhere near that crease on Saturday.
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How good was Pickard tonight? First star on the Oilers for sure! Too bad they couldn’t give him any run support.
Normally a goal like that at the end goes in and I get angry and blurt out a few F bombs. This one went in and I just felt like “yup”. Despite the score, this was an absolute poop kicking tonight from the end of the first to the final buzzer. An embarrassing game from almost any Oiler not named Pickard.
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I knew something bad was going top happen as soon as I saw Nurse on the ice at the end.. just stared at lundstrom and waited as he passed it past him (like he wasn't even there..) for the GWG.
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I think his decision making is slower than ever. Like that Kopitar goal last series. He doesn’t react right away to problems - it’s like there’s a delay in registering the issue
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Seems to lack instinctive reactions to defensive situations.. like each situation is a brand new problem to solve.. the good vets learn their lessons over time on what to do and it becomes instinctive (hard wired) .. don't need to ponder it in real time..
Nurse just never seems ready positionally..
[Updated on: Thu, 16 May 2024 23:48]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Kr55
Messages: 10777
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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Our top line being totally clueless in our zone was a fitting end. Hyman and McDavid pylons for Miller to skate around. Just an abysmal game by them.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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g2k
Messages: 2840
Registered: January 2003
Location: The Hood
2 Cups
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| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 22:51 |
Our top line being totally clueless in our zone was a fitting end. Hyman and McDavid pylons for Miller to skate around. Just an abysmal game by them.
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Not a glorious night for Bouchard. Just muffs the play in the final chance to create something. He just seemed to lack confidence everywhere on the ice tonight.
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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Kr55
Messages: 10777
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| g2k wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 22:56 |
| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 22:51 |
Our top line being totally clueless in our zone was a fitting end. Hyman and McDavid pylons for Miller to skate around. Just an abysmal game by them.
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Not a glorious night for Bouchard. Just muffs the play in the final chance to create something. He just seemed to lack confidence everywhere on the ice tonight.
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All the guys we have been playing ~25+ mins every game looked really bad tonight.
And those guys are the only ones that create anything.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4419
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
4 Cups
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Can we play Stecher and Broberg as the 3rd pair, nd sit 5 and 25?
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Jay
Messages: 567
Registered: January 2007
Location: Edmonton
No Cups
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 22:51 |
Can we play Stecher and Broberg as the 3rd pair, nd sit 5 and 25?
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The new gm is going to need to seriously consider what to do with that nurse contract. Get creative and find a way to get rid of it. He is a 6/7 d man at this point. Just an enormous boat anchor for another 6 years.
And no first rounder this year.
The team looked sick tonight. Brutal loss.
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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HamBlaster
Messages: 989
Registered: June 2007
No Cups
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Nurse is definitely going to be a waiver wire opportunity for some team next year. No one is trading for that god-awful contract.
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Mike
Messages: 1397
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
1 Cup
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| HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 02:05 |
Nurse is definitely going to be a waiver wire opportunity for some team next year. No one is trading for that god-awful contract.
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Only 6 more years.
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Mike
Messages: 1397
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
1 Cup
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Like Skookum said - I’d put Broberg and Stecher in there in place of Nurse and Ceci. They are so bad.
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Kr55
Messages: 10777
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| Mike wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 23:10 |
Like Skookum said - I’d put Broberg and Stecher in there in place of Nurse and Ceci. They are so bad.
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This could be an opportunity to try Nurse at forward! :)
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4419
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
4 Cups
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| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 22:12 |
| Mike wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 23:10 |
Like Skookum said - I’d put Broberg and Stecher in there in place of Nurse and Ceci. They are so bad.
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This could be an opportunity to try Nurse at forward! :)
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I wish.. too bad the guy can't hit the net.. and his shot couldn't break a pane of glass..
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Mike
Messages: 1397
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
1 Cup
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| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 02:12 |
| Mike wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 23:10 |
Like Skookum said - I’d put Broberg and Stecher in there in place of Nurse and Ceci. They are so bad.
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This could be an opportunity to try Nurse at forward! :)
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A reverse Brent Burns? I like it!
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Jay
Messages: 567
Registered: January 2007
Location: Edmonton
No Cups
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| Mike wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 23:08 |
| HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 02:05 |
Nurse is definitely going to be a waiver wire opportunity for some team next year. No one is trading for that god-awful contract.
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Only 6 more years.
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The good news is that once 29 and 97 are gone the rebuild is in good hands. Getting lottery picks shouldn't be a problem.
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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Kr55
Messages: 10777
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| Jay wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 23:26 |
| Mike wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 23:08 |
| HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 02:05 |
Nurse is definitely going to be a waiver wire opportunity for some team next year. No one is trading for that god-awful contract.
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Only 6 more years.
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The good news is that once 29 and 97 are gone the rebuild is in good hands. Getting lottery picks shouldn't be a problem.
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Ahh, Lottery time again soon. As a wise man said, it's just the cyclical nature of the game.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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smyth260
Messages: 1081
Registered: November 2007
1 Cup
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Wish Ken Holland took winning the division seriously.
Clean house or bust
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Adam
Messages: 7176
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
6 Cups
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Ugly game. Team played scared the whole way through. They’re ultra concerned about protecting the net but that makes them ultra conservative sometimes and it costs them. That includes on the last goal where it was a nothing dump in, and then we just didn’t attack the puck carrier. They got a little luck on the goal but hat was happening all night.
The team just needs to attack and attack all night. We need the Canucks on their heels. Unfortunately we only seem to play that way when we are trailing. Hopefully we get another adjustment from Knoblauch before the next game and they come out flying in Game 6.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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kungpaobenji27
Messages: 340
Registered: August 2003
Location: Irving, Texas
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I find it weird this team always snags defeat from the jaws of victory when they get some semblance of scoring from a third pairing dman or their 3rd/4th lines. Obviously the latter this evening but yeah....
Be more aggressive in game 6 & hope for the best.
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HamBlaster
Messages: 989
Registered: June 2007
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The team lacks the commitment to play winning hockey. They just do and it's really unfortunate. They play a great game in G4, pat themselves on the back and then come out and play like junkies that couldn't get enough of a fix last night in this one.
Rough, rough game.
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4419
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
4 Cups
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Bad 2nd goal against deflated the whole team's offensive confidence.. sat back rest of game.. had the puck in their own end were content to flip it out and lose possession.. then repeat sequence.. exactly what Tocchet wanted.. keep it close and score a cheap goal.. which he knows some Oilers will eventually give up (Nurse, Ceci).
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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philly boy
Messages: 135
Registered: July 2007
Location: E-Town
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disappointing but still somewhat expected… pickard the only bright spot
blueline is completely cooked… hot trash
team has no concept of how to defend, play D as a group or even to make individual plays (outside of Bouchard to a minimal extent)
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4419
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
4 Cups
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They broke up 5 and 25 hoping 27 and 73 would help the other and you'd have 2 "OK" D pairs.. but in retrospect it just seems you went from 2 effective D pairs to 1 effective and 2 half-assed D pairs. Worked game 4
What to do?
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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smyth260
Messages: 1081
Registered: November 2007
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So the Oilers have played in 5 playoff series where they did not have home ice advantage during the McDavid era.
Round 2 vs Anaheim in 2017 - lose in 7
Round 2 vs Calgary in 2022 - win in 5
Round 3 vs Colorado in 2022 - lose in 4
Round 2 vs Vegas in 2023 - lose in 6
Round 2 vs Vancouver in 2024
This series is really hard to win now. We have to take a game 7 on the road. Nobody needs that explained.
But this situation and our history shows the importance of winning a freaking division once in a while. And it’s a complete failure that we haven’t done it yet. I don’t really care what the storylines of the season were, the winning streak, the coaching changes…it’s McDavid’s 9th year and we still haven’t made the playoffs easier on ourselves.
I hope they play their best 2 games of the season coming up.
Clean house or bust
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4419
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
4 Cups
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| smyth260 wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 22:22 |
..We have to take a game 7 on the road. Nobody needs that explained.
I hope they play their best 2 games of the season coming up.
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Game 7's are a crap shoot, I'm not worried .. just need to win game 6.. 
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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