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 Kr55
Messages: 10915
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| Adam wrote on Sat, 11 May 2024 14:43 |
| Kr55 wrote on Sat, 11 May 2024 11:34 |
| Jay wrote on Sat, 11 May 2024 10:01 |
There's this narrative going around that it wasn't that bad of a goal because that's how goalies are taught to play those situations. Its bs. The idea is that you put the lower part of your body in position to stop a quick pass bang bang play. Its designed for when players come down the wing in close proximity to the net. Zadorov was on the corner almost against the boards. If a pass miraculously gets through there will be plenty of time to adjust. There's no excuse for him to be on his knees there.
He made some good saves as well.. But that could have been a killer. Luckily he basically didn't see a shot the rest of the game.
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I would call it a bit of a fluke too because Ceci tipped it into that perfect area. Zadorov's goal on Nashville was a perfect shot alone, and I still have no idea what Soros was doing trying to save it, almost falling backwards into his net.
It does seem there's something funky being taught to goalies. Soros is pretty damn good, but he had some bizarre technique covering it. Maybe there is a factor too where the goalie can't believe such a huge Neanderthal could even make a good shot from that spot :)
I can't believe Zadorov got that max range seeing eye goal last game, and now a crazy angle Oilers tipped goal into a perfect puck sized slice behind Skinner's back. PDO kings just keep bringing the goods!
Again, we must all hope Skinner learned a lesson :)
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There’s a Henrik Lundqvist clip from the second intermission last night where he talks about what the technique is, and that he thinks it’s over-used and leads to bad goals like that. He was railing against telling goalies to do it.
I will say, whether correct from a technique standpoint or not doesn’t really make a difference. If part of your technique exposes a major flaw that shooters can easily exploit for bad goals? Then it’s a bad goal. I used to play beer league with a goalie who barely played as a kid and then really made a lot of effort to better his play as an adult. Attended a lot of goalie training and really did get much better for a while - but there was a tipping point where he was so concerned about his technique that he no longer seemed to ever make reflex or desperation saves. He was frustrating to have in goal the last couple seasons we played with him because he’d get scored on and you’d see him check his angles, reassure himself that he played it correct and move on to the next goal against. Doesn’t matter if you played it perfectly how you were coached if it’s in the net behind you.
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Oh yeah, I don't mean to say it's not a bad goal. It was very bad. Bad technique is bad technique. Skinner also still stinks at his stick positioning and has been burned multiple times these playoffs for not holding or using his stick properly.
Hated his lack of effort on the first goal last night too. He knew the pass went across. You can see him turn his head to look, but his body doesn't move at all. That was just a white towel throw before it was even in the net. Pettersson didn't even get the puck in the air. Turned out to be savable if Skinner just got his pad over, but he did an awkward little spin in place after watching the pass and shot and he doesn't even make it past the half way line of his crease. Hopefully better efforts in the coming games.
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 tardigrade81
Messages: 2517
Registered: November 2022
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
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All I know is when we play our game and we get shots on that, almost nobody can beat us. I get it, Vancouver has a great defense, but if we play a full 60 minutes and we keep getting shots on net. We are as good as anybody and we can beat Vancouver. We split the first two games in Vancouver, and that is not an easy thing to do because they have a very good loud fan base.I honestly think we can take the next two in Edmonton if we play a full 60 minutes. Don’t let the foot off the gas, and we should be OK. I am getting excited when today and we will have all sorts of confidence.
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Adam
Messages: 7199
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
6 Cups
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I will say this though. After that goal both Skinner and the team buckled down. We didn’t allow a lot more good chances and when we did he stood tall. We’ve seen in the past where that goal starts the death spiral and we are suddenly down by three instead of one. That didn’t happen and so good on Stu for that last night.
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kungpaobenji27
Messages: 340
Registered: August 2003
Location: Irving, Texas
No Cups
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Sat, 11 May 2024 08:33 |
Kane and Perry need to get their A-hole games going. I wonder if Kane is worried about the refs because it's pretty clear they won't call a penalty when something happens to him. But Kane needs to assert himself and Perry needs to be a pest.
Seecondary scoring is dried up once again. Nuge. Congrats on your second assist on the PP. How about a flipping goal. McLeod, you are great defensively. How about a flipping goal? He's got no points, 6 shots in 7 games. You can't be a 3rd line center and not score anything. Foegele. 20 goals in the regular season in a contract year. That's awesome. You playing in the playoffs yet? For every 100K you made yourself by scoring more than 13, you are losing per game by being invisible.
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If it's any consolation, I saw the 2nd/3rd/4th lines finally completing passes to teammates in the 3rd period...while generating quality chances on net hemming Canucks into their own zone. Will need to see some scoring from them eventually but last night's 3rd is something they can build off of.
What's up with the Canucks fans wearing ski glasses btw?
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4471
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
4 Cups
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| kungpaobenji27 wrote on Sat, 11 May 2024 14:39 |
What's up with the Canucks fans wearing ski glasses btw?
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.. you could have just left it at .. "What's up with the Canucks fans.."
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kungpaobenji27
Messages: 340
Registered: August 2003
Location: Irving, Texas
No Cups
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 11 May 2024 16:42 |
| kungpaobenji27 wrote on Sat, 11 May 2024 14:39 |
What's up with the Canucks fans wearing ski glasses btw?
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.. you could have just left it at .. "What's up with the Canucks fans.."
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Yeah like my cousins who grew up in BC....very obnoxious of course lol
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Oscargasm
Messages: 5911
Registered: May 2009
Location: YEG
5 Cups
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Hahahaha Gord, I love you Skookum. They launched with such Must I’m not sure NORAD even picked it up on any scanner
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I had to tap out and hit the sack by the middle of the third, but was glad to see the heroes, of the fight came out on top over the forces of evil, the next day!
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