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Adam wrote on Sat, 11 May 2024 14:43

Kr55 wrote on Sat, 11 May 2024 11:34

Jay wrote on Sat, 11 May 2024 10:01

There's this narrative going around that it wasn't that bad of a goal because that's how goalies are taught to play those situations. Its bs. The idea is that you put the lower part of your body in position to stop a quick pass bang bang play. Its designed for when players come down the wing in close proximity to the net. Zadorov was on the corner almost against the boards. If a pass miraculously gets through there will be plenty of time to adjust. There's no excuse for him to be on his knees there.

He made some good saves as well.. But that could have been a killer. Luckily he basically didn't see a shot the rest of the game.


I would call it a bit of a fluke too because Ceci tipped it into that perfect area. Zadorov's goal on Nashville was a perfect shot alone, and I still have no idea what Soros was doing trying to save it, almost falling backwards into his net.

It does seem there's something funky being taught to goalies. Soros is pretty damn good, but he had some bizarre technique covering it. Maybe there is a factor too where the goalie can't believe such a huge Neanderthal could even make a good shot from that spot :)

I can't believe Zadorov got that max range seeing eye goal last game, and now a crazy angle Oilers tipped goal into a perfect puck sized slice behind Skinner's back. PDO kings just keep bringing the goods!

Again, we must all hope Skinner learned a lesson :)


There’s a Henrik Lundqvist clip from the second intermission last night where he talks about what the technique is, and that he thinks it’s over-used and leads to bad goals like that. He was railing against telling goalies to do it.

I will say, whether correct from a technique standpoint or not doesn’t really make a difference. If part of your technique exposes a major flaw that shooters can easily exploit for bad goals? Then it’s a bad goal. I used to play beer league with a goalie who barely played as a kid and then really made a lot of effort to better his play as an adult. Attended a lot of goalie training and really did get much better for a while - but there was a tipping point where he was so concerned about his technique that he no longer seemed to ever make reflex or desperation saves. He was frustrating to have in goal the last couple seasons we played with him because he’d get scored on and you’d see him check his angles, reassure himself that he played it correct and move on to the next goal against. Doesn’t matter if you played it perfectly how you were coached if it’s in the net behind you.


Oh yeah, I don't mean to say it's not a bad goal. It was very bad. Bad technique is bad technique. Skinner also still stinks at his stick positioning and has been burned multiple times these playoffs for not holding or using his stick properly.

Hated his lack of effort on the first goal last night too. He knew the pass went across. You can see him turn his head to look, but his body doesn't move at all. That was just a white towel throw before it was even in the net. Pettersson didn't even get the puck in the air. Turned out to be savable if Skinner just got his pad over, but he did an awkward little spin in place after watching the pass and shot and he doesn't even make it past the half way line of his crease. Hopefully better efforts in the coming games.

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