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Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #1) [message #833306] |
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 tardigrade81
Messages: 2261
Registered: November 2022
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
2 Cups
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5 shots in 2 periods. Seen more shots than that against the devils trap system. What a joke
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HamBlaster
Messages: 989
Registered: June 2007
No Cups
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Can't imagine they're taking pride in any element of their game tonight. Caved in D, terrible goaltending, no shots, no fight to get back into the game...
Just an overall shoddy effort, in virtually every category.
Need a wayyyyy better effort in Game 2, because Vancouver is going to have a tonne of confidence after the way they ended this one.
The Oilers look like they could get steamrolled by a balanced and determined Canucks squad.
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g2k
Messages: 2840
Registered: January 2003
Location: The Hood
2 Cups
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| OilFans wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 22:30 |
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Not a good night.
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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philly boy
Messages: 135
Registered: July 2007
Location: E-Town
No Cups
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won’t be surprised if Oil get swept, paper tiger, bad defence and goaltending, same old story
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inverno76
Messages: 2340
Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
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| philly boy wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 22:50 |
won’t be surprised if Oil get swept, paper tiger, bad defence and goaltending, same old story
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Why even watch? I don’t get people like that lose their crud over one game after a huge layoff.
Should never blow a 3 goal lead, but Vancouver’s goalie didn’t exactly look like a rock star. You blame everyone but the right the people.
The Oilers didn’t produce scoring chances and still scored 4 goals. Calm down.
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tardigrade81
Messages: 2261
Registered: November 2022
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
2 Cups
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| inverno76 wrote on Thu, 09 May 2024 06:09 |
| philly boy wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 22:50 |
won’t be surprised if Oil get swept, paper tiger, bad defence and goaltending, same old story
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Why even watch? I don’t get people like that lose their crud over one game after a huge layoff.
Should never blow a 3 goal lead, but Vancouver’s goalie didn’t exactly look like a rock star. You blame everyone but the right the people.
The Oilers didn’t produce scoring chances and still scored 4 goals. Calm down.
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That’s just it though… Canucks goalie was horrible. If Demko is in there we probably get blown out… oilers didn’t show much that we belong in this series. 5 straight losses to this team now
I hope you’re right though. One game. See what we can do Friday
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philly boy
Messages: 135
Registered: July 2007
Location: E-Town
No Cups
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| inverno76 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 23:09 |
| philly boy wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 22:50 |
won’t be surprised if Oil get swept, paper tiger, bad defence and goaltending, same old story
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Why even watch? I don’t get people like that lose their crud over one game after a huge layoff.
Should never blow a 3 goal lead, but Vancouver’s goalie didn’t exactly look like a rock star. You blame everyone but the right the people.
The Oilers didn’t produce scoring chances and still scored 4 goals. Calm down.
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I want to believe (I took years off watching the Oil because it was unhealthy, the org killed my love of the game), and I had a tepid/cautious optimism about this team going into these playoffs -- probably bought into the hype. But then something like last night happens and it reminds you... this team is smoke and mirrors... blueline still isn't good enough after all these years, especially when it matters most... goaltending is mediocre to below average. They played bad against LA too the last couple games. At the first hint of adversity, playing a defensively structured and well-coached or well-balanced team, they can't compete. Piss-poor puck possession. Bad "luck". Like I said, it's not negativity, it's reality coming back to bite this team hard. That defence is so bad when it matters. And it'll be especially painful if the Canucks leapfrog the Oilers in the span of 2-3 years with younger, less experienced players, and less top-end talent.
It ain't over but the Canucks just bully the Oilers and I don't see that changing. I think the Oil could get swept, might win 1 game. Hope to be proven wrong.
[Updated on: Thu, 09 May 2024 10:07]
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Mike
Messages: 1397
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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How does one of the most potent offenses in the NHL only get 18 shots on goal? On a 3rd string goalie who let in about 1 in 4 shots? Not saying go all Dallas Eakins and get your CORSIs shooting from the locker room, but get some pucks on net. Make life uncomfortable for him. 4 SOG in each of the 2nd and 3rd periods?
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Adam
Messages: 7174
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
6 Cups
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| Mike wrote on Thu, 09 May 2024 10:50 |
How does one of the most potent offenses in the NHL only get 18 shots on goal? On a 3rd string goalie who let in about 1 in 4 shots? Not saying go all Dallas Eakins and get your CORSIs shooting from the locker room, but get some pucks on net. Make life uncomfortable for him. 4 SOG in each of the 2nd and 3rd periods?
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I really didn't like the 1-0 win against the Kings, and felt like Knoblaugh's crew tried the same thing last night. Get a little buffer, then coast and hope they can hold on. I don't understand that approach at all, especially since in the games like Game 1 against LA, we just ran them out of the building by continuing to press and even though they did score some goals (in part due to somewhat leaky goaltending) we persevered and outgunned them.
When we go full shell, it's just begging for something like last night to happen - especially when we have a defence corps with guys like Ceci and Desharnais in it, who you just can't expect to be locked down all night. It worked once, we should never try it again though.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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Ragnarok73
Messages: 2419
Registered: February 2011
2 Cups
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Same old story: team cannot play D when it matters. Sigh.
"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.
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"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."
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watchman
Messages: 1412
Registered: October 2019
Location: River City
1 Cup
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...sorry, SKINNER has to play better. 
...this time, it's for real (isn't it?).
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feepa
Messages: 408
Registered: November 2002
Location: Edmonton
No Cups
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What a horrible collapse. Why did we let the gas off?
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4418
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
4 Cups
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| feepa wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 21:53 |
What a horrible collapse. Why did we let the gas off?
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foot wasn't off the gas.. some of the drivers were just asleep at the wheel..
For me losing to Vancouver would be worse than missing the playoffs.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 22:58 |
| feepa wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 21:53 |
What a horrible collapse. Why did we let the gas off?
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foot wasn't off the gas.. some of the drivers were just asleep at the wheel..
For me losing to Vancouver would be worse than missing the playoffs.
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That effort probably would have been enough against LA and their 1 line team. We beat LA in those last 2 games playing maybe 2 periods of offense and 4 periods of sitting back.
I dunno if this team tricked themselves into thinking they can defend leads. Not a chance against a team with 2+ lines.
[Updated on: Wed, 08 May 2024 23:02]
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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kungpaobenji27
Messages: 340
Registered: August 2003
Location: Irving, Texas
No Cups
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 23:58 |
| feepa wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 21:53 |
What a horrible collapse. Why did we let the gas off?
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foot wasn't off the gas.. some of the drivers were just asleep at the wheel..
For me losing to Vancouver would be worse than missing the playoffs.
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The drivers were being too cute...but still...can't blow a lead like this while letting the Nucks forwards get into a rhythm. Latter is the scary part
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4418
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
4 Cups
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| Ragnarok73 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 21:51 |
Same old story: team cannot play D when it matters. Sigh.
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Most of the team played good D.. Nurse same old same old.. and then Skinner scoring 5-hole on himself.
This was their Cup run moment.. win game 1 on the road.. >Choke<
Team needs a proper 2nd pair NHL D .. Nurse and Ceci ain't it.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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HamBlaster
Messages: 989
Registered: June 2007
No Cups
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That $9.5M Dman is an albatross and a half of a contract.
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inverno76
Messages: 2340
Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
2 Cups
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 22:56 |
| Ragnarok73 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 21:51 |
Same old story: team cannot play D when it matters. Sigh.
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Most of the team played good D.. Nurse same old same old.. and then Skinner scoring 5-hole on himself.
This was their Cup run moment.. win game 1 on the road.. >Choke<
Team needs a proper 2nd pair NHL D .. Nurse and Ceci ain't it.
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Wasn’t 5 hole, but it did hit his stick and went in far post. Probably misses the net 9 times out of 10. Fluke goal. The game winner was the only stinker.
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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I really hoped obvious issues with this team, that we all knew from last playoffs, but Holland didn't care to fix, would just never be an issue for 4 rounds of NHL playoffs
Crap
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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DeZoE
Messages: 24
Registered: March 2007
No Cups
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Skinner has to play better. He can't be outplayed by a third string rookie
I'm not wearing pants...
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| DeZoE wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 22:54 |
Skinner has to play better. He can't be outplayed by a third string rookie
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Probably 3 weak sauce goals. Skinner ever gonna learn how to use his stick?
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Jay
Messages: 561
Registered: January 2007
Location: Edmonton
No Cups
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 22:57 |
| DeZoE wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 22:54 |
Skinner has to play better. He can't be outplayed by a third string rookie
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Probably 3 weak sauce goals. Skinner ever gonna learn how to use his stick?
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The game changed when 29 got hurt the team panicked and imploded. Unpleasant glimpse into the team that has been built around 29 and 97.
Ideally Skinner makes a save or two but this is who he is. The bigger the moment the worse he plays. I'd have gone with Campbell last year and I'd have gone with Picard this year. Ive seen this movie enough.
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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Leia
Messages: 410
Registered: May 2003
Location: England
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I was more worried about Vinny than Nurse tonight, he looked a little lost especially in that second period. However, we've coped with offensive onslaughts like that recently, but with perhaps no Drai on the ice and all the forwards having to step up a little whilst he was gone, just drained a little too much gas out of them to assist the D as they have done previously.
Nothing against Connor Brown either, but I thought we missed Henrique who's just got that bit of gile and expreince to help out a bit under those sort of situations.
Hate losing the way we did, but we regroup, we get to work on whatever caused Drai to miss some time and go back to work on Friday. I don't think we were that far away tonight, but all it takes is that little bit in play-off's to cost us.
Take me home, country road
to the place where I belong
to Alberta, to see the Oilers
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inverno76
Messages: 2340
Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
2 Cups
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| DeZoE wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 22:54 |
Skinner has to play better. He can't be outplayed by a third string rookie
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He wasn’t outplayed. The forwards were outworked. If you want to dump on someone look at the shot clock.
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kungpaobenji27
Messages: 340
Registered: August 2003
Location: Irving, Texas
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This is a game you probably don't recover from....ask the Islanders via first round
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Oscargasm
Messages: 5911
Registered: May 2009
Location: YEG
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So much for the mature team we’ve been hearing so much about this last week
I know he gets ragged on lots but you HAVE to expect Darnell Nurse to be better defensively. He was a direct reason for several goals against tonight. That pair was ex-posed. Good gracious.
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HamBlaster
Messages: 989
Registered: June 2007
No Cups
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Nurse is easily the worst value contract that we are icing in these playoffs.
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| HamBlaster wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 23:02 |
Nurse is easily the worst value contract that we are icing in these playoffs.
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I'm concerned because I'm starting to feel like Ceci is the more competent defender between those 2. That's just insane to me.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Mike
Messages: 1397
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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A stellar .792 from Skinner. The last time I gave him a tongue lashing he went .964, 1.000 then down to .857, and finally .792.
I think I need to come down on him every 3rd game.
What an epic collapse. By midway, this game was over. Panel had all thrown in the towel. They were on cruise control. Then our offense gets about 5 shots in half a game, Nurse forgets what position he’s playing, and Skinner continues to show he skipped class the day they learned how to use their stick.
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Rutuu
Messages: 144
Registered: March 2011
Location: Brisbane
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It's one game, and they don't have Demko. This series is still ours.
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g2k
Messages: 2840
Registered: January 2003
Location: The Hood
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Hrudey creaming himself.
Doesn’t even try to hide his dislike of the Oilers.
Just beaming like it’s 12:01 on January 1st.
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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inverno76
Messages: 2340
Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
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Thankfully it’s not a one game elimination series.
Skinner let in one horrendous goal to lose the game, but the lack of shots on goal was the reason we lost. Not Skinner. Not Nurse. Not Brown.
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g2k
Messages: 2840
Registered: January 2003
Location: The Hood
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| inverno76 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 23:04 |
Thankfully it’s not a one game elimination series.
Skinner let in one horrendous goal to lose the game, but the lack of shots on goal was the reason we lost. Not Skinner. Not Nurse. Not Brown.
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Thanks for the PSA’s, but Skinner and Nurse were a huge part of this failure tonight.
Shot were 24-18.
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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Jay
Messages: 561
Registered: January 2007
Location: Edmonton
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| inverno76 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 23:04 |
Thankfully it’s not a one game elimination series.
Skinner let in one horrendous goal to lose the game, but the lack of shots on goal was the reason we lost. Not Skinner. Not Nurse. Not Brown.
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They lost by one goal and let in 5. Lack of shots/offense is part of it by so is defense and goaltending or lack thereof. I agree that Connor brown didn't cost them the game.
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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inverno76
Messages: 2340
Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
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| Jay wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 23:10 |
| inverno76 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 23:04 |
Thankfully it’s not a one game elimination series.
Skinner let in one horrendous goal to lose the game, but the lack of shots on goal was the reason we lost. Not Skinner. Not Nurse. Not Brown.
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They lost by one goal and let in 5. Lack of shots/offense is part of it by so is defense and goaltending or lack thereof. I agree that Connor brown didn't cost them the game.
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Aside from the game winner. And be honest, which goals were bad. The accident goal off the heal of the stick? Silvia had a shot slide between his pads, and the only reason it didn’t go in because he got lucky.
I hope a lot of you tonight eat crow. So fickle. Be angry, but this was on the forward group tonight.
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CrusaderPi
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Location: AB Highway 100
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It was never going to be easy. Canucks are a good team and they let their guard down. The good news is Arturs is not the answer. We know we don’t have to be scared of him.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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McDavid talking a lot about trying to protect the lead. Damn. This team does not have the defense to do that crap. Knob gonna try to make us sit on our hands against good teams just because it worked against LA? Sigh
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 23:08 |
McDavid talking a lot about trying to protect the lead. Damn. This team does not have the defense to do that crap. Knob gonna try to make us sit on our hands against good teams just because it worked against LA? Sigh
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This is Knob's adjustment moment. Does he realize he doesn't have the D to really sit on any lead against any team left in the playoffs? If not, we could be doomed.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4418
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 22:11 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 23:08 |
McDavid talking a lot about trying to protect the lead. Damn. This team does not have the defense to do that crap. Knob gonna try to make us sit on our hands against good teams just because it worked against LA? Sigh
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This is Knob's adjustment moment. Does he realize he doesn't have the D to really sit on any lead against any team left in the playoffs? If not, we could be doomed.
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I think they had the right idea, you're up 4-1.. don't give up the cheap odd man rushes/chances against which they did routinely in the regular season.. keep the puck in front of you.. and at the other end.. some just couldn't do their job..
It was noticeable that the Miller line was matched against Nurse/Ceci.. and not Kulak and Desharnais.. other team's scouting staff is telling you something about your team.
Sadly .. 90 games later and the Oilers are full circle with a loss to Team America.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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