Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:47

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:25 Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:06 Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:00 Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:51 Mike wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:08 Kr55 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 13:52 All I am seeing from Vancouver rn in Tocchet talking about the league cracking down on diving, and their media talking about how many calls we got against LA. Flashbacks of lead up to the Duck series in 2017. I know outsiders will say we are biased (which we are), but for years I really feel like 'Ive seen teams get away with stuff only to see us get called for not even half as bad an infraction right after. I've seen video reviews inexplicably go against us. The Makar offside and one of the worst ones ever, the Talbot one in the other thread amongst many others. Or last year - Nurse getting a game for getting punched in the face and Pietrangelo getting the same 1 game for trying to maliciously chop off Leon's arm... That LA series is the first one in forever that I feel calls were pretty fair. I was surprised at a few calls that went against LA, I felt we got away with a few compared to previous years. I was shocked they counted Leon's goal. I loved Hrudey crying about it after, but I really didn't think they were to count it. Maybe the Kings got screwed like I'm hearing from a lot of places, but I really saw it as pretty even. I'll take more of the same The Kings tried to hook and hold and the league called it for once - well, some of it. And they didn't feel like they needed to even it up without the Oilers doing the same level of infractions. But we're definitely seeing Tocchet go full 2017 Carlyle in the lead-up and that's a clear indication on what he feels the best way to stop 97 and 29 is. Here's hoping the NHL won't fall for it, although I don't have a lot of faith in the refs...If they DO fall for it? Then hopefully our coach isn't scared of a little fine if our stars are getting mugged and we aren't getting the calls. Sometimes you have to play the game too...the Oilers tend to think we're above all that - which usually goes poorly for us. Coach K doesn't strike me as a guy to turn the Knob on the stove to heat up the refs. We've had several coaches in a row who believed that they shouldn't say anything controversial in the media ever. Honestly, there's a line there - it isn't a tool that you should use all the time, but if I was coaching and someone spoke about our team getting the calls, I would address it at the next opportunity, laugh about it and say specifically that it sure sounds like their game plan will be to foul players a lot and hope that the refs feel guilty about calling too many penalties - and that you expect NHL refs are too smart to fall for that. The coach can't just be above the fray and leave the team to just hope that it works out. It's too bad, because the league has shown time and time again that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. There are zero points for silence. Carlyle complained that McDavid was getting special treatment in round 1, we said nothing, and got to enjoy 7 games of Kesler riding on his back and the refs acting scared to call any of it. Comparison to the Ducks though, do the Canucks have players that do what Kesler or Danault tried to do? Miller, Boeser, Hughes, Hronek were Mcdavid's top opposition against the Canucks. I don't know if we're gonna pay for silence as much in terms of guys being draped all over McDavid. I think the Canucks wish is simply to keep us off the PP in general, and hopefully end up with more PP opportunities in the series (or own silence can help with that if the Canucks can keep drawing calls like they have over the last years). Guess we will see how game 1 goes, but Canucks have to feel some confidence that they can win a 5v5 battle against us (13-3 goals in regular season). IIRC, Counter attacking off us being too aggressive and stretched out defensively got the Canucks a lot of goals against us this season. Feel we'll see Miller draped over McDavid every time he's on the ice

Has Miller ever been a defensive guy? I think he's about as good defensively as McDavid is. These guys push offense to not have to play defense. Tocchet is still getting that high effort level from guys (probably dies off as time goes on, but he's still fresh in their ears this season), so they will pressure puck carriers hard, but don't think Canucks are going to be preoccupied by defense and sacrificing guys as shadows. They will want to attack just as much as us. I think at least, finally get to see tomorrow.

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