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 Re: WCSF - VAN (D1) vs. EDM (D2) [message #833128 is a reply to message #833119 ]
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Mike wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:08

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 13:52

All I am seeing from Vancouver rn in Tocchet talking about the league cracking down on diving, and their media talking about how many calls we got against LA. Flashbacks of lead up to the Duck series in 2017.


I know outsiders will say we are biased (which we are), but for years I really feel like 'Ive seen teams get away with stuff only to see us get called for not even half as bad an infraction right after. I've seen video reviews inexplicably go against us. The Makar offside and one of the worst ones ever, the Talbot one in the other thread amongst many others. Or last year - Nurse getting a game for getting punched in the face and Pietrangelo getting the same 1 game for trying to maliciously chop off Leon's arm...

That LA series is the first one in forever that I feel calls were pretty fair. I was surprised at a few calls that went against LA, I felt we got away with a few compared to previous years. I was shocked they counted Leon's goal. I loved Hrudey crying about it after, but I really didn't think they were to count it.

Maybe the Kings got screwed like I'm hearing from a lot of places, but I really saw it as pretty even. confused2 I'll take more of the same


The Kings tried to hook and hold and the league called it for once - well, some of it. And they didn't feel like they needed to even it up without the Oilers doing the same level of infractions. But we're definitely seeing Tocchet go full 2017 Carlyle in the lead-up and that's a clear indication on what he feels the best way to stop 97 and 29 is.

Here's hoping the NHL won't fall for it, although I don't have a lot of faith in the refs...If they DO fall for it? Then hopefully our coach isn't scared of a little fine if our stars are getting mugged and we aren't getting the calls. Sometimes you have to play the game too...the Oilers tend to think we're above all that - which usually goes poorly for us.



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 Re: WCSF - VAN (D1) vs. EDM (D2) [message #833130 is a reply to message #833128 ]
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Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:51

Mike wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:08

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 13:52

All I am seeing from Vancouver rn in Tocchet talking about the league cracking down on diving, and their media talking about how many calls we got against LA. Flashbacks of lead up to the Duck series in 2017.


I know outsiders will say we are biased (which we are), but for years I really feel like 'Ive seen teams get away with stuff only to see us get called for not even half as bad an infraction right after. I've seen video reviews inexplicably go against us. The Makar offside and one of the worst ones ever, the Talbot one in the other thread amongst many others. Or last year - Nurse getting a game for getting punched in the face and Pietrangelo getting the same 1 game for trying to maliciously chop off Leon's arm...

That LA series is the first one in forever that I feel calls were pretty fair. I was surprised at a few calls that went against LA, I felt we got away with a few compared to previous years. I was shocked they counted Leon's goal. I loved Hrudey crying about it after, but I really didn't think they were to count it.

Maybe the Kings got screwed like I'm hearing from a lot of places, but I really saw it as pretty even. confused2 I'll take more of the same


The Kings tried to hook and hold and the league called it for once - well, some of it. And they didn't feel like they needed to even it up without the Oilers doing the same level of infractions. But we're definitely seeing Tocchet go full 2017 Carlyle in the lead-up and that's a clear indication on what he feels the best way to stop 97 and 29 is.

Here's hoping the NHL won't fall for it, although I don't have a lot of faith in the refs...If they DO fall for it? Then hopefully our coach isn't scared of a little fine if our stars are getting mugged and we aren't getting the calls. Sometimes you have to play the game too...the Oilers tend to think we're above all that - which usually goes poorly for us.



Coach K doesn't strike me as a guy to turn the Knob on the stove to heat up the refs.



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 Re: WCSF - VAN (D1) vs. EDM (D2) [message #833131 is a reply to message #833130 ]
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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:00

Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:51

Mike wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:08

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 13:52

All I am seeing from Vancouver rn in Tocchet talking about the league cracking down on diving, and their media talking about how many calls we got against LA. Flashbacks of lead up to the Duck series in 2017.


I know outsiders will say we are biased (which we are), but for years I really feel like 'Ive seen teams get away with stuff only to see us get called for not even half as bad an infraction right after. I've seen video reviews inexplicably go against us. The Makar offside and one of the worst ones ever, the Talbot one in the other thread amongst many others. Or last year - Nurse getting a game for getting punched in the face and Pietrangelo getting the same 1 game for trying to maliciously chop off Leon's arm...

That LA series is the first one in forever that I feel calls were pretty fair. I was surprised at a few calls that went against LA, I felt we got away with a few compared to previous years. I was shocked they counted Leon's goal. I loved Hrudey crying about it after, but I really didn't think they were to count it.

Maybe the Kings got screwed like I'm hearing from a lot of places, but I really saw it as pretty even. confused2 I'll take more of the same


The Kings tried to hook and hold and the league called it for once - well, some of it. And they didn't feel like they needed to even it up without the Oilers doing the same level of infractions. But we're definitely seeing Tocchet go full 2017 Carlyle in the lead-up and that's a clear indication on what he feels the best way to stop 97 and 29 is.

Here's hoping the NHL won't fall for it, although I don't have a lot of faith in the refs...If they DO fall for it? Then hopefully our coach isn't scared of a little fine if our stars are getting mugged and we aren't getting the calls. Sometimes you have to play the game too...the Oilers tend to think we're above all that - which usually goes poorly for us.



Coach K doesn't strike me as a guy to turn the Knob on the stove to heat up the refs.


We've had several coaches in a row who believed that they shouldn't say anything controversial in the media ever. Honestly, there's a line there - it isn't a tool that you should use all the time, but if I was coaching and someone spoke about our team getting the calls, I would address it at the next opportunity, laugh about it and say specifically that it sure sounds like their game plan will be to foul players a lot and hope that the refs feel guilty about calling too many penalties - and that you expect NHL refs are too smart to fall for that. The coach can't just be above the fray and leave the team to just hope that it works out.



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 Re: WCSF - VAN (D1) vs. EDM (D2) [message #833132 is a reply to message #833131 ]
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Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:06

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:00

Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:51

Mike wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:08

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 13:52

All I am seeing from Vancouver rn in Tocchet talking about the league cracking down on diving, and their media talking about how many calls we got against LA. Flashbacks of lead up to the Duck series in 2017.


I know outsiders will say we are biased (which we are), but for years I really feel like 'Ive seen teams get away with stuff only to see us get called for not even half as bad an infraction right after. I've seen video reviews inexplicably go against us. The Makar offside and one of the worst ones ever, the Talbot one in the other thread amongst many others. Or last year - Nurse getting a game for getting punched in the face and Pietrangelo getting the same 1 game for trying to maliciously chop off Leon's arm...

That LA series is the first one in forever that I feel calls were pretty fair. I was surprised at a few calls that went against LA, I felt we got away with a few compared to previous years. I was shocked they counted Leon's goal. I loved Hrudey crying about it after, but I really didn't think they were to count it.

Maybe the Kings got screwed like I'm hearing from a lot of places, but I really saw it as pretty even. confused2 I'll take more of the same


The Kings tried to hook and hold and the league called it for once - well, some of it. And they didn't feel like they needed to even it up without the Oilers doing the same level of infractions. But we're definitely seeing Tocchet go full 2017 Carlyle in the lead-up and that's a clear indication on what he feels the best way to stop 97 and 29 is.

Here's hoping the NHL won't fall for it, although I don't have a lot of faith in the refs...If they DO fall for it? Then hopefully our coach isn't scared of a little fine if our stars are getting mugged and we aren't getting the calls. Sometimes you have to play the game too...the Oilers tend to think we're above all that - which usually goes poorly for us.



Coach K doesn't strike me as a guy to turn the Knob on the stove to heat up the refs.


We've had several coaches in a row who believed that they shouldn't say anything controversial in the media ever. Honestly, there's a line there - it isn't a tool that you should use all the time, but if I was coaching and someone spoke about our team getting the calls, I would address it at the next opportunity, laugh about it and say specifically that it sure sounds like their game plan will be to foul players a lot and hope that the refs feel guilty about calling too many penalties - and that you expect NHL refs are too smart to fall for that. The coach can't just be above the fray and leave the team to just hope that it works out.


I 100% agree, and MAYBE our past coaches have had the convo with the head series official, but WHY NOT cast a stone in a presser? Other coaches around the league do it with ease... There's a game within the game for players and coaches, which is a game Oilers coaches seemingly just concede.



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 Re: WCSF - VAN (D1) vs. EDM (D2) [message #833134 is a reply to message #833131 ]
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Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:06

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:00

Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:51

Mike wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:08

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 13:52

All I am seeing from Vancouver rn in Tocchet talking about the league cracking down on diving, and their media talking about how many calls we got against LA. Flashbacks of lead up to the Duck series in 2017.


I know outsiders will say we are biased (which we are), but for years I really feel like 'Ive seen teams get away with stuff only to see us get called for not even half as bad an infraction right after. I've seen video reviews inexplicably go against us. The Makar offside and one of the worst ones ever, the Talbot one in the other thread amongst many others. Or last year - Nurse getting a game for getting punched in the face and Pietrangelo getting the same 1 game for trying to maliciously chop off Leon's arm...

That LA series is the first one in forever that I feel calls were pretty fair. I was surprised at a few calls that went against LA, I felt we got away with a few compared to previous years. I was shocked they counted Leon's goal. I loved Hrudey crying about it after, but I really didn't think they were to count it.

Maybe the Kings got screwed like I'm hearing from a lot of places, but I really saw it as pretty even. confused2 I'll take more of the same


The Kings tried to hook and hold and the league called it for once - well, some of it. And they didn't feel like they needed to even it up without the Oilers doing the same level of infractions. But we're definitely seeing Tocchet go full 2017 Carlyle in the lead-up and that's a clear indication on what he feels the best way to stop 97 and 29 is.

Here's hoping the NHL won't fall for it, although I don't have a lot of faith in the refs...If they DO fall for it? Then hopefully our coach isn't scared of a little fine if our stars are getting mugged and we aren't getting the calls. Sometimes you have to play the game too...the Oilers tend to think we're above all that - which usually goes poorly for us.



Coach K doesn't strike me as a guy to turn the Knob on the stove to heat up the refs.


We've had several coaches in a row who believed that they shouldn't say anything controversial in the media ever. Honestly, there's a line there - it isn't a tool that you should use all the time, but if I was coaching and someone spoke about our team getting the calls, I would address it at the next opportunity, laugh about it and say specifically that it sure sounds like their game plan will be to foul players a lot and hope that the refs feel guilty about calling too many penalties - and that you expect NHL refs are too smart to fall for that. The coach can't just be above the fray and leave the team to just hope that it works out.


It's too bad, because the league has shown time and time again that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. There are zero points for silence. Carlyle complained that McDavid was getting special treatment in round 1, we said nothing, and got to enjoy 7 games of Kesler riding on his back and the refs acting scared to call any of it.

Comparison to the Ducks though, do the Canucks have players that do what Kesler or Danault tried to do? Miller, Boeser, Hughes, Hronek were Mcdavid's top opposition against the Canucks. I don't know if we're gonna pay for silence as much in terms of guys being draped all over McDavid. I think the Canucks wish is simply to keep us off the PP in general, and hopefully end up with more PP opportunities in the series (or own silence can help with that if the Canucks can keep drawing calls like they have over the last years). Guess we will see how game 1 goes, but Canucks have to feel some confidence that they can win a 5v5 battle against us (13-3 goals in regular season). IIRC, Counter attacking off us being too aggressive and stretched out defensively got the Canucks a lot of goals against us this season.

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 Re: WCSF - VAN (D1) vs. EDM (D2) [message #833136 is a reply to message #833134 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:25

Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:06

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:00

Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:51

Mike wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:08

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 13:52

All I am seeing from Vancouver rn in Tocchet talking about the league cracking down on diving, and their media talking about how many calls we got against LA. Flashbacks of lead up to the Duck series in 2017.


I know outsiders will say we are biased (which we are), but for years I really feel like 'Ive seen teams get away with stuff only to see us get called for not even half as bad an infraction right after. I've seen video reviews inexplicably go against us. The Makar offside and one of the worst ones ever, the Talbot one in the other thread amongst many others. Or last year - Nurse getting a game for getting punched in the face and Pietrangelo getting the same 1 game for trying to maliciously chop off Leon's arm...

That LA series is the first one in forever that I feel calls were pretty fair. I was surprised at a few calls that went against LA, I felt we got away with a few compared to previous years. I was shocked they counted Leon's goal. I loved Hrudey crying about it after, but I really didn't think they were to count it.

Maybe the Kings got screwed like I'm hearing from a lot of places, but I really saw it as pretty even. confused2 I'll take more of the same


The Kings tried to hook and hold and the league called it for once - well, some of it. And they didn't feel like they needed to even it up without the Oilers doing the same level of infractions. But we're definitely seeing Tocchet go full 2017 Carlyle in the lead-up and that's a clear indication on what he feels the best way to stop 97 and 29 is.

Here's hoping the NHL won't fall for it, although I don't have a lot of faith in the refs...If they DO fall for it? Then hopefully our coach isn't scared of a little fine if our stars are getting mugged and we aren't getting the calls. Sometimes you have to play the game too...the Oilers tend to think we're above all that - which usually goes poorly for us.



Coach K doesn't strike me as a guy to turn the Knob on the stove to heat up the refs.


We've had several coaches in a row who believed that they shouldn't say anything controversial in the media ever. Honestly, there's a line there - it isn't a tool that you should use all the time, but if I was coaching and someone spoke about our team getting the calls, I would address it at the next opportunity, laugh about it and say specifically that it sure sounds like their game plan will be to foul players a lot and hope that the refs feel guilty about calling too many penalties - and that you expect NHL refs are too smart to fall for that. The coach can't just be above the fray and leave the team to just hope that it works out.


It's too bad, because the league has shown time and time again that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. There are zero points for silence. Carlyle complained that McDavid was getting special treatment in round 1, we said nothing, and got to enjoy 7 games of Kesler riding on his back and the refs acting scared to call any of it.

Comparison to the Ducks though, do the Canucks have players that do what Kesler or Danault tried to do? Miller, Boeser, Hughes, Hronek were Mcdavid's top opposition against the Canucks. I don't know if we're gonna pay for silence as much in terms of guys being draped all over McDavid. I think the Canucks wish is simply to keep us off the PP in general, and hopefully end up with more PP opportunities in the series (or own silence can help with that if the Canucks can keep drawing calls like they have over the last years). Guess we will see how game 1 goes, but Canucks have to feel some confidence that they can win a 5v5 battle against us (13-3 goals in regular season). IIRC, Counter attacking off us being too aggressive and stretched out defensively got the Canucks a lot of goals against us this season.



Feel we'll see Miller draped over McDavid every time he's on the ice



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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:47

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:25

Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:06

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:00

Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:51

Mike wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:08

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 13:52

All I am seeing from Vancouver rn in Tocchet talking about the league cracking down on diving, and their media talking about how many calls we got against LA. Flashbacks of lead up to the Duck series in 2017.


I know outsiders will say we are biased (which we are), but for years I really feel like 'Ive seen teams get away with stuff only to see us get called for not even half as bad an infraction right after. I've seen video reviews inexplicably go against us. The Makar offside and one of the worst ones ever, the Talbot one in the other thread amongst many others. Or last year - Nurse getting a game for getting punched in the face and Pietrangelo getting the same 1 game for trying to maliciously chop off Leon's arm...

That LA series is the first one in forever that I feel calls were pretty fair. I was surprised at a few calls that went against LA, I felt we got away with a few compared to previous years. I was shocked they counted Leon's goal. I loved Hrudey crying about it after, but I really didn't think they were to count it.

Maybe the Kings got screwed like I'm hearing from a lot of places, but I really saw it as pretty even. confused2 I'll take more of the same


The Kings tried to hook and hold and the league called it for once - well, some of it. And they didn't feel like they needed to even it up without the Oilers doing the same level of infractions. But we're definitely seeing Tocchet go full 2017 Carlyle in the lead-up and that's a clear indication on what he feels the best way to stop 97 and 29 is.

Here's hoping the NHL won't fall for it, although I don't have a lot of faith in the refs...If they DO fall for it? Then hopefully our coach isn't scared of a little fine if our stars are getting mugged and we aren't getting the calls. Sometimes you have to play the game too...the Oilers tend to think we're above all that - which usually goes poorly for us.



Coach K doesn't strike me as a guy to turn the Knob on the stove to heat up the refs.


We've had several coaches in a row who believed that they shouldn't say anything controversial in the media ever. Honestly, there's a line there - it isn't a tool that you should use all the time, but if I was coaching and someone spoke about our team getting the calls, I would address it at the next opportunity, laugh about it and say specifically that it sure sounds like their game plan will be to foul players a lot and hope that the refs feel guilty about calling too many penalties - and that you expect NHL refs are too smart to fall for that. The coach can't just be above the fray and leave the team to just hope that it works out.


It's too bad, because the league has shown time and time again that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. There are zero points for silence. Carlyle complained that McDavid was getting special treatment in round 1, we said nothing, and got to enjoy 7 games of Kesler riding on his back and the refs acting scared to call any of it.

Comparison to the Ducks though, do the Canucks have players that do what Kesler or Danault tried to do? Miller, Boeser, Hughes, Hronek were Mcdavid's top opposition against the Canucks. I don't know if we're gonna pay for silence as much in terms of guys being draped all over McDavid. I think the Canucks wish is simply to keep us off the PP in general, and hopefully end up with more PP opportunities in the series (or own silence can help with that if the Canucks can keep drawing calls like they have over the last years). Guess we will see how game 1 goes, but Canucks have to feel some confidence that they can win a 5v5 battle against us (13-3 goals in regular season). IIRC, Counter attacking off us being too aggressive and stretched out defensively got the Canucks a lot of goals against us this season.



Feel we'll see Miller draped over McDavid every time he's on the ice


Has Miller ever been a defensive guy? I think he's about as good defensively as McDavid is. These guys push offense to not have to play defense. Tocchet is still getting that high effort level from guys (probably dies off as time goes on, but he's still fresh in their ears this season), so they will pressure puck carriers hard, but don't think Canucks are going to be preoccupied by defense and sacrificing guys as shadows. They will want to attack just as much as us. I think at least, finally get to see tomorrow.



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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 14:28

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:47

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:25

Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:06

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 12:00

Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:51

Mike wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:08

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 13:52

All I am seeing from Vancouver rn in Tocchet talking about the league cracking down on diving, and their media talking about how many calls we got against LA. Flashbacks of lead up to the Duck series in 2017.


I know outsiders will say we are biased (which we are), but for years I really feel like 'Ive seen teams get away with stuff only to see us get called for not even half as bad an infraction right after. I've seen video reviews inexplicably go against us. The Makar offside and one of the worst ones ever, the Talbot one in the other thread amongst many others. Or last year - Nurse getting a game for getting punched in the face and Pietrangelo getting the same 1 game for trying to maliciously chop off Leon's arm...

That LA series is the first one in forever that I feel calls were pretty fair. I was surprised at a few calls that went against LA, I felt we got away with a few compared to previous years. I was shocked they counted Leon's goal. I loved Hrudey crying about it after, but I really didn't think they were to count it.

Maybe the Kings got screwed like I'm hearing from a lot of places, but I really saw it as pretty even. confused2 I'll take more of the same


The Kings tried to hook and hold and the league called it for once - well, some of it. And they didn't feel like they needed to even it up without the Oilers doing the same level of infractions. But we're definitely seeing Tocchet go full 2017 Carlyle in the lead-up and that's a clear indication on what he feels the best way to stop 97 and 29 is.

Here's hoping the NHL won't fall for it, although I don't have a lot of faith in the refs...If they DO fall for it? Then hopefully our coach isn't scared of a little fine if our stars are getting mugged and we aren't getting the calls. Sometimes you have to play the game too...the Oilers tend to think we're above all that - which usually goes poorly for us.



Coach K doesn't strike me as a guy to turn the Knob on the stove to heat up the refs.


We've had several coaches in a row who believed that they shouldn't say anything controversial in the media ever. Honestly, there's a line there - it isn't a tool that you should use all the time, but if I was coaching and someone spoke about our team getting the calls, I would address it at the next opportunity, laugh about it and say specifically that it sure sounds like their game plan will be to foul players a lot and hope that the refs feel guilty about calling too many penalties - and that you expect NHL refs are too smart to fall for that. The coach can't just be above the fray and leave the team to just hope that it works out.


It's too bad, because the league has shown time and time again that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. There are zero points for silence. Carlyle complained that McDavid was getting special treatment in round 1, we said nothing, and got to enjoy 7 games of Kesler riding on his back and the refs acting scared to call any of it.

Comparison to the Ducks though, do the Canucks have players that do what Kesler or Danault tried to do? Miller, Boeser, Hughes, Hronek were Mcdavid's top opposition against the Canucks. I don't know if we're gonna pay for silence as much in terms of guys being draped all over McDavid. I think the Canucks wish is simply to keep us off the PP in general, and hopefully end up with more PP opportunities in the series (or own silence can help with that if the Canucks can keep drawing calls like they have over the last years). Guess we will see how game 1 goes, but Canucks have to feel some confidence that they can win a 5v5 battle against us (13-3 goals in regular season). IIRC, Counter attacking off us being too aggressive and stretched out defensively got the Canucks a lot of goals against us this season.



Feel we'll see Miller draped over McDavid every time he's on the ice


Has Miller ever been a defensive guy? I think he's about as good defensively as McDavid is. These guys push offense to not have to play defense. Tocchet is still getting that high effort level from guys (probably dies off as time goes on, but he's still fresh in their ears this season), so they will pressure puck carriers hard, but don't think Canucks are going to be preoccupied by defense and sacrificing guys as shadows. They will want to attack just as much as us. I think at least, finally get to see tomorrow.


They have some big annoying defencemen who'll probably play designated muggers. Zadorov and Myers are both huge. And expect Ian Cole will be all over McDavid like he's a teenage girl.

EDIT - I have no idea if they'll use Cole in a shutdown role, but hard to pass up that shot at him. See, it isn't just the Oilers that hire the more despicable players!

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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:53

August hockey was great, but that was an... extraordinary circumstance. Year after year, June after June I want to get on with my summer.


I mean get on with your summer. And then at night if the Oilers are still in it, you get to watch some hockey at the beach or whatever drink rasta rock

I know it'll never happen, but there could be benefits to starting the season a couple of months later. No competition with MLB playoffs and the NFL to start the season, no NBA playoffs at the end of the season. You run it Jan-Sep.

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:53

Dropping the puck 20 minutes after the start time. They're outsmarting themselves. They make it really hard to follow the playoffs.


This one annoys me. With baseball, they have a start time, and unless there are extenuating circumstances, they stick to it. To the minute. Want to have all your ceremonies and banner raisings and whatever else? Awesome - have it done before the stated "puck drop" time.



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Mike wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 10:55

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:53

August hockey was great, but that was an... extraordinary circumstance. Year after year, June after June I want to get on with my summer.


I mean get on with your summer. And then at night if the Oilers are still in it, you get to watch some hockey at the beach or whatever drink rasta rock

I know it'll never happen, but there could be benefits to starting the season a couple of months later. No competition with MLB playoffs and the NFL to start the season, no NBA playoffs at the end of the season. You run it Jan-Sep.

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:53

Dropping the puck 20 minutes after the start time. They're outsmarting themselves. They make it really hard to follow the playoffs.


This one annoys me. With baseball, they have a start time, and unless there are extenuating circumstances, they stick to it. To the minute. Want to have all your ceremonies and banner raisings and whatever else? Awesome - have it done before the stated "puck drop" time.

That's why I think starting playoffs the week after the first round of March Madness would be prime time. No real competition except regular season basketball and opening day. Now they're fighting for time with playoff basketball, regular season baseball, and me wanting to golf. Of course I'll watch the Oilers in the Stanley Cup any time anywhere. My mom, to this day, is pissy about a SCF game on her wedding day... all the men were hiding in the kitchen watching the third on a black and white. The rest of the league? Feh, I'd rather golf.


Just tell me the game is starting at 8:50. If I'm watching, I'm watching. It's so so pointlessly dumb.



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Mike wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 10:55

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:53

August hockey was great, but that was an... extraordinary circumstance. Year after year, June after June I want to get on with my summer.


I mean get on with your summer. And then at night if the Oilers are still in it, you get to watch some hockey at the beach or whatever drink rasta rock

I know it'll never happen, but there could be benefits to starting the season a couple of months later. No competition with MLB playoffs and the NFL to start the season, no NBA playoffs at the end of the season. You run it Jan-Sep.

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:53

Dropping the puck 20 minutes after the start time. They're outsmarting themselves. They make it really hard to follow the playoffs.


This one annoys me. With baseball, they have a start time, and unless there are extenuating circumstances, they stick to it. To the minute. Want to have all your ceremonies and banner raisings and whatever else? Awesome - have it done before the stated "puck drop" time.


I don't know if you'd want to play a lot of hockey in Vegas and Dallas and Florida and Utah in July and August. Some of those places have a hard enough time with the ice in Winter!



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Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:21

Mike wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 10:55

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:53

August hockey was great, but that was an... extraordinary circumstance. Year after year, June after June I want to get on with my summer.


I mean get on with your summer. And then at night if the Oilers are still in it, you get to watch some hockey at the beach or whatever drink rasta rock

I know it'll never happen, but there could be benefits to starting the season a couple of months later. No competition with MLB playoffs and the NFL to start the season, no NBA playoffs at the end of the season. You run it Jan-Sep.

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:53

Dropping the puck 20 minutes after the start time. They're outsmarting themselves. They make it really hard to follow the playoffs.


This one annoys me. With baseball, they have a start time, and unless there are extenuating circumstances, they stick to it. To the minute. Want to have all your ceremonies and banner raisings and whatever else? Awesome - have it done before the stated "puck drop" time.


I don't know if you'd want to play a lot of hockey in Vegas and Dallas and Florida and Utah in July and August. Some of those places have a hard enough time with the ice in Winter!

Their ice is bad enough in May and June. Our ice gets bad in April and May. The league doesn't care about ice.



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According to a notification on my phone Demko is out until at least game 5. Will there be a game 5? Dunno. Demko might be out for the season.

One time for Thatcher Demko
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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 14:14

According to a notification on my phone Demko is out until at least game 5. Will there be a game 5? Dunno. Demko might be out for the season.

One time for Thatcher Demko
(yeah yeah)


That would be exciting were it not for us being legendary at making backups look like perennial Vezina contenders.



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Mike wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 11:15

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 14:14

According to a notification on my phone Demko is out until at least game 5. Will there be a game 5? Dunno. Demko might be out for the season.

One time for Thatcher Demko
(yeah yeah)


That would be exciting were it not for us being legendary at making backups look like perennial Vezina contenders.

You mean future hall of famer and Latvian hero Arturs <checks notes> Sil.. ovs? He makes me nervous too.



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Here's an informative breakdown of both team's playing styles.

In short: give the puck to McJesus (down low)
https://youtu.be/T9CvpHoZt9Y?si=uY67Ae6IKx4ayrkb

or Huggy (up high).
https://youtu.be/4udtnXcRwT4?si=gsEd3W1IZ7S4S8Kx

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The forward lines as listed 20 mins ago going into game 1.

Janmark - McD - Hyman
Nuge - Drai - Kane
Holloway - McLeod - Perry
Foegele - Ryan - Brown

Sounds like Henrique is day to day with a lower body. Hopefully he is close. I am sure the time off did wonders for Kane.

Janmark being on the first line doesn't do much for me offensively but he will bring some defense to the line and all he has to do is chip pucks for McD and get out of McD's and Hyman's way.

When I look at the Oilers top 6, while not ideal that Janmark is in here, with Henrique out for game 1, they are dressing 5 legit top 6 players.

Counter the Canucks. Miller, Petterson and Boeser are legit top 6 player. Suter is on the top line, his career high is 14 goals, 36 pts. He had 14-29 playing a lot in their bottom 6. Mikheyev scored 21 goals for the Leafs which got him the contract from the Canucks, he had 11 and 31 pts this year. Hoglander is young, this is his first full season in the NHL, he spent the bulk of it in the AHL last year. He scored 24 this year. So he might be a legit top 6 guy but he screams Yamo to me due to his size. Yamo could score some in the regular season but as soon as he played in the playoffs where the hockey gets dirtier, more physical and more intense, he had a hard time being as effective. I look at Hoglander and in 6 games, he had zero points, only 2 shots and played just barely over 10 mins, 3 out of the 6 games in the series. G1 10:23, G4 10:34, G5 10:24.



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Saw Elias Pettersson was listed as day-to-day on the Canucks injury report, but sounds like it's most likely a minor illness. Would be surprising if he's not in the roster tomorrow.

https://www.espn.com/nhl/team/injuries/_/name/van/vancouver- canucks

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/pettersson-misses-canucks-pr actice



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Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 16:07

Saw Elias Pettersson was listed as day-to-day on the Canucks injury report, but sounds like it's most likely a minor illness. Would be surprising if he's not in the roster tomorrow.

https://www.espn.com/nhl/team/injuries/_/name/van/vancouver- canucks

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/pettersson-misses-canucks-pr actice


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Canucks are without Demko. If we don’t take advantage of this. I’ll be upset


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tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 19:34

Canucks are without Demko. If we don’t take advantage of this. I’ll be upset


I feel like we've seen this story the last couple years and it didn't work out.



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tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 19:34

Canucks are without Demko. If we don’t take advantage of this. I’ll be upset


I feel like we've seen this story the last couple years and it didn't work out.


No doubt.

However, if this team still can't stop itself from being psyched out by stuff like an underdog 3rd string goalie story, they really are never gonna make it.




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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 08:20

oilfan94 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 08:08

tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 19:34

Canucks are without Demko. If we don’t take advantage of this. I’ll be upset


I feel like we've seen this story the last couple years and it didn't work out.


No doubt.

However, if this team still can't stop itself from being psyched out by stuff like an underdog 3rd string goalie story, they really are never gonna make it.




As long as our team is not in the same headspace as the fan base about goaltending, I do not think there is a goalie in the league what can stop this offence from running through them. A potent scoring team against Skinner and Ceci/Nurse is my biggest concern (mildly)



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inverno76 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 13:32

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 08:20

oilfan94 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2024 08:08

tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2024 19:34

Canucks are without Demko. If we don’t take advantage of this. I’ll be upset


I feel like we've seen this story the last couple years and it didn't work out.


No doubt.

However, if this team still can't stop itself from being psyched out by stuff like an underdog 3rd string goalie story, they really are never gonna make it.




As long as our team is not in the same headspace as the fan base about goaltending, I do not think there is a goalie in the league what can stop this offence from running through them. A potent scoring team against Skinner and Ceci/Nurse is my biggest concern (mildly)


That's really the key thing, players always need to be in a better head space than us fans. That's a big reason why I think players should stay off any hockey social media, especially in the playoffs. Its a place for fans to stress out, but if the fans stress out the players that is an issue.



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