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Re: 2023-24 OOT Thread [message #832997 is a reply to message #832996 ]	Thu, 02 May 2024 10:05

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smyth260 wrote on Thu, 02 May 2024 09:51

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 May 2024 08:27

smyth260 wrote on Thu, 02 May 2024 09:13

Can Stamkos be our cap manager?

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Stamkos on considering accepting a lower salary to stay here: "I think that has been a part of everyone's thought process in the core group of guys that we have had here in terms of what guys have taken over the years to stay here. I understand the tax advantage and that type of thing. Kuch is making $9.5. That is probably grossly underpaid in terms of what guys are getting now. Vasy. Pointer with 40 or 50 goals every year. You look at Matthews. What did he sign for? $13.5 or something? Heddy is making under $8 million. That is grossly underpaid if you look at what he has done. That is what everyone has done here and that is why we have had the success and that is the way it has been for this organization. I think that that in itself is a testament to management in how they want to build a team and, first and foremost, the players for wanting to do that and accept that and allow the management to go out there and build a roster to compete for the Stanley Cup. I think that's just always been the way it's been here"

https://x.com/Gabby_Shirley_/status/1785692569990525059

I think it isn't a question of staying to "win" for Stamkos. They will be competitive, anything is possible but I see their window closing. But what does he want for his life? He's made almost $100 mill in NHL salary, based on the tax situation in Florida, he's taken home I am sure a big time chunk of it. He's spend his entire 16 yr career in Tampa. That's his home, that's where he's raised his family. He's won a couple of cups. He will be 35 in Feb. He scored 41 goals this year. His production might start to tail off some but he's probably got a couple good seasons left in him. Does he seriously want to pack up his family to chase money?

Would some team give him a raise on his 8.5? Most likely. He's a name, has cups, scored 41 goals. But really, how much money is enough?

What impresses me about his answer is it isn’t about him, how much money he has made, or his next contract at all really. It’s about how everyone has taken discounts, and should continue to take discounts, and even goes so far to praise management for making that happen so they could win some cups. That’s a leader who gets the message, but importantly a management who knows which message to send.

Good point but I do think, and this is only my opinion, it's also him saying that in a way to justify to maybe not his team but others in the union. The union wants all the players to max out because it drives up everyone elses salary.

I have no doubt in my mind there is a low end team with cap space who would offer him a raise. As an example. Utah. Brand new team, owner with money burning a hole in his pocket. No offense to the former Yotes players but not one of them is a name. Keller is a good player but ask a non hockey hardcore person and I bet you'd fine people who don't know he exists. Ask any person who remotely follows hockey and I bet they have heard of Stamkos. Won some cups, gold medal. Probably future hall of famer. He just scored 40 goals. If they gave Stamkos 9-10 mill for 3+ yrs to come to Utah, their fan base won't care he will be 35 and how that contract ages. They will think "We got Stamkos!!"

But if he doesn't want to move the family, he's going to have to take a pay cut. I bet in the 6 mill range, maybe less. Pretending the Oilers had the cap space and the want, and he wanted to come to Edmonton, I would not want the Oilers to give him anymore than what Hyman makes due to the age.