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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830473 is a reply to message #830468 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 12:24

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Perkele wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 11:06

Rumour out there (I think from Kevin Weeks) that the Avalanche are trading Byram for Casey Middelstadt of the Sabres. I obviously don't follow either of these two players too closely but being in southern Ontario I get more Sabres info than I care for. That said, if it is a one for one deal it seems like the Avalanche are getting fleeced here. Middelstadt is an average at best player who is a bottom 6 player at best (and seems to have a history of lackluster effort at times). Byram still projects as a top pairing Dman I think. Sabres will be very good on the back end with Dahlin, Power and Byram.

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The deal was one for one.

To #Sabres: D Bowen Byram
To #GoAvsGo: C Casey Mittelstadt

First to report:
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Also..

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Frank Seravalli@frank_seravalli

Full trade, per sources:

To #Flyers: Cond. 2025 1st Rd Pick, Ryan Johansen
To #GoAvsGo: Sean Walker, 2026 5th Rd Pick

Condition: 2025 1st is Top 10 protected, in which case it would slide to 2026.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830474 is a reply to message #830460 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 12:26

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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 10:29

Seravalli is reporting there is a trade coming between the Oilers and the Ducks for Henrique and Carrick. Salary retention and another team involved. Other guys like Lebrun and Friedman saying the same thing.

Rishaug tweeted he confirmed it.

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Frank Seravalli@frank_seravalli

Sources say #Oilers and #NHLDucks are finishing off a deal that will send Adam Henrique and Sam Carrick to Edmonton.

There is salary retention involved, as well as a third party broker. Some moving parts to this one.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830477 is a reply to message #830474 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 12:30

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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:26

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 10:29

Seravalli is reporting there is a trade coming between the Oilers and the Ducks for Henrique and Carrick. Salary retention and another team involved. Other guys like Lebrun and Friedman saying the same thing.

Rishaug tweeted he confirmed it.

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Frank Seravalli@frank_seravalli

Sources say #Oilers and #NHLDucks are finishing off a deal that will send Adam Henrique and Sam Carrick to Edmonton.

There is salary retention involved, as well as a third party broker. Some moving parts to this one.

Still haven't seen that last bit confirmed. Would be good if it was...depending on whether it's just a deep pick traded for it.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830480 is a reply to message #830477 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 12:41

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Adam wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 11:30

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:26

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 10:29

Seravalli is reporting there is a trade coming between the Oilers and the Ducks for Henrique and Carrick. Salary retention and another team involved. Other guys like Lebrun and Friedman saying the same thing.

Rishaug tweeted he confirmed it.

Quote:

Frank Seravalli@frank_seravalli

Sources say #Oilers and #NHLDucks are finishing off a deal that will send Adam Henrique and Sam Carrick to Edmonton.

There is salary retention involved, as well as a third party broker. Some moving parts to this one.

Still haven't seen that last bit confirmed. Would be good if it was...depending on whether it's just a deep pick traded for it.

More reports..

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Eric Stephens@icemancometh

Hearing that they are the Oilers' first-round pick in 2024 and a conditional fifth for 2025 that can improve to a fourth if Edmonton wins it all.

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Chris Johnston@reporterchris 1h
The #NHLDucks are getting draft picks back in the deal sending Adam Henrique and Sam Carrick to Edmonton

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Elliotte Friedman@FriedgeHNIC
Ducks 50 per cent retention. But I believe there is a third-party broker

[Updated on: Wed, 06 March 2024 12:47]

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830482 is a reply to message #830480 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 12:49

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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:41

Adam wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 11:30

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:26

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 10:29

Seravalli is reporting there is a trade coming between the Oilers and the Ducks for Henrique and Carrick. Salary retention and another team involved. Other guys like Lebrun and Friedman saying the same thing.

Rishaug tweeted he confirmed it.

Quote:

Frank Seravalli@frank_seravalli

Sources say #Oilers and #NHLDucks are finishing off a deal that will send Adam Henrique and Sam Carrick to Edmonton.

There is salary retention involved, as well as a third party broker. Some moving parts to this one.

Still haven't seen that last bit confirmed. Would be good if it was...depending on whether it's just a deep pick traded for it.

More reports..

Quote:

Eric Stephens@icemancometh

Hearing that they are the Oilers' first-round pick in 2024 and a conditional fifth for 2025 that can improve to a fourth if Edmonton wins it all.

Quote:

Chris Johnston@reporterchris 1h
The #NHLDucks are getting draft picks back in the deal sending Adam Henrique and Sam Carrick to Edmonton

Quote:

Elliotte Friedman@FriedgeHNIC
Ducks 50 per cent retention. But I believe there is a third-party broker

Tampa getting a conditional 2026 pick for the salary retention. Hilarious that Tampa is actually able to do it.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830483 is a reply to message #824423 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 12:49

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I think Henrique will be a good add, regular 20 goal scorer.. and plays on Ducks top PK unit..
.. as for Carrick I have little memory of him.. supposed to have good speed, truculent, and plays Ducks top PK unit..

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830485 is a reply to message #830483 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 12:52

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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:49

I think Henrique will be a good add, regular 20 goal scorer.. and plays on Ducks top PK unit..
.. as for Carrick I have little memory of him.. supposed to have good speed, truculent, and plays Ducks top PK unit..

Gazdic loves him. Says he's "tough" and "all heart".

Looks like Stauffer gets the sandpaper he's been begging for for a month!

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830490 is a reply to message #830483 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 13:01

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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:49

I think Henrique will be a good add, regular 20 goal scorer.. and plays on Ducks top PK unit..
.. as for Carrick I have little memory of him.. supposed to have good speed, truculent, and plays Ducks top PK unit..

I think Carrick is an upgrade on Ryan who is their 4th line C now. Carrick is bigger, faster, more physical, more of an agitator. He's a right shot, over 50% on draws, plays on your PK, can chip in a small amount of offense but not a ton. Ryan has 5 goals, Carrick has 8.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830508 is a reply to message #824423 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 15:22

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From Daniel Nugent-Bowman:

“A defenceman is now the priority for the Oilers. A veteran No. 7 guy appears to be the most likely outcome.

Holland mentioned Gagner and Broberg as recall options. Erne and Hamblin (once back up and running) are others.”

Brutal deadline if the big move is a 34 year old middle 6 center.

Clean house or bust

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830511 is a reply to message #830508 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 15:47

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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:22

From Daniel Nugent-Bowman:

“A defenceman is now the priority for the Oilers. A veteran No. 7 guy appears to be the most likely outcome.

Holland mentioned Gagner and Broberg as recall options. Erne and Hamblin (once back up and running) are others.”

Brutal deadline if the big move is a 34 year old middle 6 center.

Here's hoping it's not a 7th defenceman. If it's a guy who can't push either of Desharnais or Ceci out of the lineup, that's not a very good player.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830512 is a reply to message #830511 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 15:59

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Adam wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 14:47

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:22

From Daniel Nugent-Bowman:

“A defenceman is now the priority for the Oilers. A veteran No. 7 guy appears to be the most likely outcome.

Holland mentioned Gagner and Broberg as recall options. Erne and Hamblin (once back up and running) are others.”

Brutal deadline if the big move is a 34 year old middle 6 center.

Here's hoping it's not a 7th defenceman. If it's a guy who can't push either of Desharnais or Ceci out of the lineup, that's not a very good player.

Well it’s even in a quote now…

"We like the six that we've got. I would think that if we do something, we're bringing in somebody to be a No. 7." -- Oilers GM Ken Holland on the possibility of acquiring a defenceman before Friday's 1 p.m. MT trade deadline.

https://x.com/DNBsports/status/1765506542470627333?s=20

We will live and die with Cody Ceci I guess.

Clean house or bust

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830514 is a reply to message #830512 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 16:01

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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:59

Adam wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 14:47

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:22

From Daniel Nugent-Bowman:

“A defenceman is now the priority for the Oilers. A veteran No. 7 guy appears to be the most likely outcome.

Holland mentioned Gagner and Broberg as recall options. Erne and Hamblin (once back up and running) are others.”

Brutal deadline if the big move is a 34 year old middle 6 center.

Here's hoping it's not a 7th defenceman. If it's a guy who can't push either of Desharnais or Ceci out of the lineup, that's not a very good player.

Well it’s even in a quote now…

"We like the six that we've got. I would think that if we do something, we're bringing in somebody to be a No. 7." -- Oilers GM Ken Holland on the possibility of acquiring a defenceman before Friday's 1 p.m. MT trade deadline.

https://x.com/DNBsports/status/1765506542470627333?s=20

We will live and die with Cody Ceci I guess.

Maybe he should run that quote past Jackson before saying stupid sh...tuff.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830515 is a reply to message #830514 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 16:08

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Adam wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 16:01

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:59

Adam wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 14:47

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:22

From Daniel Nugent-Bowman:

“A defenceman is now the priority for the Oilers. A veteran No. 7 guy appears to be the most likely outcome.

Holland mentioned Gagner and Broberg as recall options. Erne and Hamblin (once back up and running) are others.”

Brutal deadline if the big move is a 34 year old middle 6 center.

Here's hoping it's not a 7th defenceman. If it's a guy who can't push either of Desharnais or Ceci out of the lineup, that's not a very good player.

Well it’s even in a quote now…

"We like the six that we've got. I would think that if we do something, we're bringing in somebody to be a No. 7." -- Oilers GM Ken Holland on the possibility of acquiring a defenceman before Friday's 1 p.m. MT trade deadline.

https://x.com/DNBsports/status/1765506542470627333?s=20

We will live and die with Cody Ceci I guess.

Maybe he should run that quote past Jackson before saying stupid sh...tuff.

I like the six they have too... I'm just concerned what happens if they aren't the first team in history to never suffer a defensive injury all season and playoffs. Now, I'm not sure that's a Stanley Cup winning D Corp, but I guess we're going to find out.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830517 is a reply to message #830512 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 16:21

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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 17:59

Adam wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 14:47

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:22

From Daniel Nugent-Bowman:

“A defenceman is now the priority for the Oilers. A veteran No. 7 guy appears to be the most likely outcome.

Holland mentioned Gagner and Broberg as recall options. Erne and Hamblin (once back up and running) are others.”

Brutal deadline if the big move is a 34 year old middle 6 center.

Here's hoping it's not a 7th defenceman. If it's a guy who can't push either of Desharnais or Ceci out of the lineup, that's not a very good player.

Well it’s even in a quote now…

"We like the six that we've got. I would think that if we do something, we're bringing in somebody to be a No. 7." -- Oilers GM Ken Holland on the possibility of acquiring a defenceman before Friday's 1 p.m. MT trade deadline.

https://x.com/DNBsports/status/1765506542470627333?s=20

We will live and die with Cody Ceci I guess.

What a terribly disappointing quote. It seemed like our biggest needs was a backup goalie and an upgrade at RD and in the last week Holland has quotes saying he has no plan to try to do either. I guess it is possible that the oilers have finally learned not to tip their hand, but I think it is far more likely that they remain bumbling and honest

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830519 is a reply to message #824423 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 16:52

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Rumors of Hanafin to Vegas

Guentzel to Canucks.

Um, damn.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830520 is a reply to message #830519 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 16:59

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:52

Rumors of Hanafin to Vegas

Guentzel to Canucks.

Um, damn.

We are going to get run over by good managers again aren’t we.

Clean house or bust

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830524 is a reply to message #830520 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 17:26

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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 16:59

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:52

Rumors of Hanafin to Vegas

Guentzel to Canucks.

Um, damn.

We are going to get run over by good managers again aren’t we.

Old Man Rutherford is anything BUT a good manager.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830525 is a reply to message #830520 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 17:26

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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 16:59

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:52

Rumors of Hanafin to Vegas

Guentzel to Canucks.

Um, damn.

We are going to get run over by good managers again aren’t we.

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As the Flames/Knights finalize the Hanifin trade, word out of Vegas suggests they aren't necessarily finished. Could still add another forward by the deadline.

I wonder if Katz is flipping his s&%(# while he watches this stuff. So frustrating. Just give Vegas Guentzel too. Eichel can have a little recovery setback and LTIR to game 1 with Stone.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830521 is a reply to message #830519 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 17:16

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:52

Rumors of Hanafin to Vegas

Guentzel to Canucks.

Um, damn.

Pretty funny if the Nucks sold the farm for Lindholm just to flip him a month later for Guentzel.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830531 is a reply to message #830521 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 19:15

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 16:16

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:52

Rumors of Hanafin to Vegas

Guentzel to Canucks.

Um, damn.

Pretty funny if the Nucks sold the farm for Lindholm just to flip him a month later for Guentzel.

Rental as well..

Lindholm really trailed off after the trade.. buyers remorse.. I doubt Pittsburgh would be satisfied with Lindholm as the piece coming back who is UFA also.. why would Pittsburgh take a rental who will want the moon next year?

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830527 is a reply to message #824423 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 17:36

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You have to appreciate the boldness of Vegas. A spleen injury can be pretty short term to be fully recovered. But they are just all in acting like Stone will be out until game 1. The confidence, the shamelessness, the BOLDness! MacT would be proud.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830528 is a reply to message #830527 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 17:38

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 20:36

You have to appreciate the boldness of Vegas. A spleen injury can be pretty short term to be fully recovered. But they are just all in acting like Stone will be out until game 1. The confidence, the BOLDness! MacT would be proud.

No kidding. I'm so sick of the blatant exploiting of that salary cap loophole.

I guess we need to take advantage of that too. That's about the only guaranteed way that any loophole like that will ever be closed.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830532 is a reply to message #830528 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 19:17

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 16:38

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 20:36

You have to appreciate the boldness of Vegas. A spleen injury can be pretty short term to be fully recovered. But they are just all in acting like Stone will be out until game 1. The confidence, the BOLDness! MacT would be proud.

No kidding. I'm so sick of the blatant exploiting of that salary cap loophole.

I guess we need to take advantage of that too. That's about the only guaranteed way that any loophole like that will ever be closed.

Spittin' Chiclets thinks Vegas's LTIR scam(s) deserves ridicule as well..

https://twitter.com/spittinchiclets/status/17655361189408322 18

and another one..

https://twitter.com/OCPDesigns/status/1765536561754415258

[Updated on: Wed, 06 March 2024 19:20]

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830534 is a reply to message #824423 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 19:39

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Vegas just giving the NHL the big middle finger now..

They just put Alec Martinez (D) on IR today.. $5.25M cap hit off the books.. another game #1 activation? What a joke league.

[Updated on: Wed, 06 March 2024 19:41]

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830535 is a reply to message #830534 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 20:20

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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:39

Vegas just giving the NHL the big middle finger now..

They just put Alec Martinez (D) on IR today.. $5.25M cap hit off the books.. another game #1 activation? What a joke league.

undisclosed injury

The injury is that he's been playing bad so they are just gonna LTIR him for more cap space.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830536 is a reply to message #830535 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 20:24

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:20

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:39

Vegas just giving the NHL the big middle finger now..

They just put Alec Martinez (D) on IR today.. $5.25M cap hit off the books.. another game #1 activation? What a joke league.

undisclosed injury

The injury is that he's been playing bad so they are just gonna LTIR him for more cap space.

Rumour is that they will get Hannifin with 3rd party retention.. and then will go out for another forward..

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830538 is a reply to message #830535 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 21:24

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 23:20

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:39

Vegas just giving the NHL the big middle finger now..

They just put Alec Martinez (D) on IR today.. $5.25M cap hit off the books.. another game #1 activation? What a joke league.

undisclosed injury

The injury is that he's been playing bad so they are just gonna LTIR him for more cap space.

Jesus. What's it gonna take to close that loophole? Our allstar players guaranteed us a playoff spot, but oops, they all got injured right before the playoffs (weird hey?) Oh, but that gives us another $30m in cap space, so we're just gonna sign all tbe top FAs with that 30m "cap space", and then bring our "injured" guys back just in time for the playoffs once they miraculously recover from all their injuries.

It boggles my mind that the NHL can't see this obvious case of cap circumvention. It is so easy to fix too: Your playoff roster must comply with the salary cap. What's so hard about that?

Vegas got away with it once already. You're gonna let them do it again? The officiating in the NHL is already bush league. Now you're gonna extend that to the salary cap? What a joke of a league.

You're godd amn right that I'm pissed about this.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830539 is a reply to message #830538 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 22:00

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 20:24

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 23:20

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:39

Vegas just giving the NHL the big middle finger now..

They just put Alec Martinez (D) on IR today.. $5.25M cap hit off the books.. another game #1 activation? What a joke league.

undisclosed injury

The injury is that he's been playing bad so they are just gonna LTIR him for more cap space.

Jesus. What's it gonna take to close that loophole? Our allstar players guaranteed us a playoff spot, but oops, they all got injured right before the playoffs (weird hey?) Oh, but that gives us another $30m in cap space, so we're just gonna sign all tbe top FAs with that 30m "cap space", and then bring our "injured" guys back just in time for the playoffs once they miraculously recover from all their injuries.

It boggles my mind that the NHL can't see this obvious case of cap circumvention. It is so easy to fix too: Your playoff roster must comply with the salary cap. What's so hard about that?

Vegas got away with it once already. You're gonna let them do it again? The officiating in the NHL is already bush league. Now you're gonna extend that to the salary cap? What a joke of a league.

You're godd amn right that I'm pissed about this.

They see it. Choose not to do anything about it.
I highly suspect that if the Oilers were pulling this year after year.. after year.. they'd require 3 independent NHL physicians to verify the injury.. or make the LTIR player ineligible until the 2nd round.. then take away two 2nd round Oiler draft picks .. naturally.. :)

[Updated on: Wed, 06 March 2024 22:21]

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830537 is a reply to message #824423 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 20:29

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Talk that Oilers will go after a depth 6-7 D-man with what cap they have left..

One of the guys mentioned was Josh Brown on the Coyutes..

6'-5", 220#

His defensive numbers look good.. been pulling about 12 minutes per game.. and.. shoots right..
Cap hit is $1.275M.. would need retention.. or a trade out..

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830540 is a reply to message #824423 ]	Wed, 06 March 2024 22:25

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Stauffer was teasing this guy as a potential 7th D add

https://forums.hfboards.com/attachments/1709786737564-png.830949/

Chances he scores a goal before our current Brown? Thinking 80%.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830544 is a reply to message #830540 ]	Thu, 07 March 2024 08:14

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The Oilers just sent Holloway down. With 14 forwards after the Henrique - Carrick traded, they had 14 forwards. With him going down, that's another 925k in cap space.

They can let him play a ton in Baker then bring him up for the playoffs when there is no cap.

Hmmmmmm. Interesting.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830546 is a reply to message #830544 ]	Thu, 07 March 2024 11:38

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Looking like the D-man from PHX is Troy Stetcher
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1765806589666095247

97.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830547 is a reply to message #830546 ]	Thu, 07 March 2024 11:52

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Suomalainen wrote on Thu, 07 March 2024 10:38

Looking like the D-man from PHX is Troy Stetcher
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1765806589666095247

Ken Holland gets his Kulikov.

Clean house or bust

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830572 is a reply to message #824423 ]	Thu, 07 March 2024 14:51

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Another Trade?[ 8 vote(s) ]

1. Trade a non-roster player/picks for depth player 0 / 0%
2. Trade a roster player+picks for impact player 6 / 75%
3. Nada 2 / 25%

Oilers still have $1M in cap left..

[Updated on: Thu, 07 March 2024 14:56]

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830576 is a reply to message #830572 ]	Thu, 07 March 2024 16:03

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wait... is this trade what we 'want' or what we 'expect'?

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830573 is a reply to message #824423 ]	Thu, 07 March 2024 15:02

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Nothin' to see here folks..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GICOYvgbkAEWgAJ?format=jpg&name=small

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830574 is a reply to message #830573 ]	Thu, 07 March 2024 15:14

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I've said it before. All the NHL would have to do is make it so the team that steps on the ice for each playoff game is cap compliant. No different than what it's like for the regular season.

Teams can load up on all the expensive guys they want to be black aces and have them not count against the cap. So in the case of Vegas, you got all this LTIR space, go ahead, load up. But the team on the ice has to be under the cap. How you do it is up to the team. If you want to play 9 forwards and 6 d to be cap compliant, go ahead.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830578 is a reply to message #830573 ]	Thu, 07 March 2024 16:30

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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 07 March 2024 15:02

Nothin' to see here folks..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GICOYvgbkAEWgAJ?format=jpg&name=small

https://media2.giphy.com/media/12NUbkX6p4xOO4/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952i1fhtzozeggdpe4s6n93calvy26emby6ca7g24ct&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

Poor Stone, Feb just a bad luck month for him. Wonder what happens to him next Feb. Maybe some really bad eczema that lasts until April?

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830631 is a reply to message #830578 ]	Thu, 07 March 2024 21:23

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 07 March 2024 16:30

Poor Stone, Feb just a bad luck month for him. Wonder what happens to him next Feb. Maybe some really bad eczema that lasts until April?

Heck of a sales job by Vegas - come play in the desert, we'll pay you a full season's salary for 3/4 of a season's work and then we'll load up to the gills on talent to try to win you another Cup ring!

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830632 is a reply to message #830631 ]	Thu, 07 March 2024 21:45

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Adam wrote on Thu, 07 March 2024 21:23

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 07 March 2024 16:30

Poor Stone, Feb just a bad luck month for him. Wonder what happens to him next Feb. Maybe some really bad eczema that lasts until April?

Heck of a sales job by Vegas - come play in the desert, we'll pay you a full season's salary for 3/4 of a season's work and then we'll load up to the gills on talent to try to win you another Cup ring!

It's the difference between wanting to win and winning.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #830640 is a reply to message #830632 ]	Fri, 08 March 2024 09:44

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Fingers crossed that the Knights continue to flounder leading up to the playoffs. As long as they settle into a Wildcard spot,, (#goKings), they'll be up against the Canucks, Stars or Jets. Each of these teams have made some serious adds!

What a 1st round matchup that would be!

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