| Toby Reider Cup 2023/2024 [message #828180] |
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 Dragon_Matt
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Had to go in the middle. It was a tough one though.
Do you think Kenny and Bobby lay the blame for this season on Brown?
"Campbell could have recovered if only Brown had found the net a few more times" "The guy just wasn't the defensive stalwart he was supposed to be. It's a shame Campbell had to suffer for Brown's poor play".
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Adam
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| Dragon_Matt wrote on Mon, 18 December 2023 09:50 |
Had to go in the middle. It was a tough one though.
Do you think Kenny and Bobby lay the blame for this season on Brown?
"Campbell could have recovered if only Brown had found the net a few more times" "The guy just wasn't the defensive stalwart he was supposed to be. It's a shame Campbell had to suffer for Brown's poor play".
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I do not think that they're going to be in a hurry to mention Connor Brown's name at any meetings with ticketholders because it really tarnishes Holland. Rieder was someone they could blame for not stepping up, but he was out the door and there wasn't any remnant. Brown leaves us that ugly cap hit for next year, so it's way worse and looks worse on management. They made a really bad bet, especially making it so easy for him to achieve the milestone. And he's looked out of place all year.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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Skookum Jim
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Yeah it was a toss for me between C. Brown #2 or C. Brown #3.. opted for Connor Brown #3 .. I think he has the best chance of winning the TRC.. C. Ceci is the underdog in this contest.. it'll be a battle to the end!
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P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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stemhovlichski
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 18 December 2023 17:14 |
Yeah it was a toss for me between C. Brown #2 or C. Brown #3.. opted for Connor Brown #3 .. I think he has the best chance of winning the TRC.. C. Ceci is the underdog in this contest.. it'll be a battle to the end!
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I think this poll is really unfair. Campbell's name isn't up there.
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Dragon_Matt
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I also think Cody Ceci is playing hockey pretty much like Cody Ceci is expected to play hockey.
Connor Brown is playing hockey like we expected him to play badminton.
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| Dragon_Matt wrote on Tue, 19 December 2023 11:46 |
I also think Cody Ceci is playing hockey pretty much like Cody Ceci is expected to play hockey.
Connor Brown is playing hockey like we expected him to play badminton.
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The problem is the Oilers want Ceci to play like Ekholm and Desharais to play like Ceci. Imagine if the Oilers had this backend setup:
Nurse Ekholm
Ekholm Bouchard
Ceci Kulak
Real veteran goalie
Skinner
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Skookum Jim
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| Dragon_Matt wrote on Tue, 19 December 2023 10:46 |
I also think Cody Ceci is playing hockey pretty much like Cody Ceci is expected to play hockey.
Connor Brown is playing hockey like we expected him to play badminton.
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We usually don't put defensemen in with the TRC.. their job is defense.. but was running out of options.. needed to break up the monopoly just for interest sake.. can a stay at home defenseman (who forgets to stay home on occasion) outscore a top 6 winger?
[Updated on: Tue, 19 December 2023 15:24]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Dragon_Matt
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yes. Solidly... yes.
Skinner might outscore Brown... you should have put HIM in there.
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Kr55
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Erne
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Skookum Jim
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| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 21 December 2023 18:35 |
Erne
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LOL! .. I realized his omission when I saw him score last game.. sincere apologies Mr. Erne !
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Skookum Jim
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Happy New Year Fans of Oil!
Here is an all-time historical update on the Toby Reider Cup.. I found this on LT's website, credit to Pokecheck.
Goalless streak by games/season.. Reider must include playoffs.. the all-time hopeless streak.
(18-19) L – Tobias Reider 0/92
(19-20) R – Patrick Russel 0/58
(23-24) R – Connor Brown 0/43
(12-13) C – Eric Belanger 0/31
(09-10) C – Ryan Stone 0/25
(06-07) L – Jean-Francois Jacques 0/23
(17-18) R – Kailer Yamamoto 0/23
(17-18) L – Jussi Jokinen 0/22
(02-03) C – Josh Green 0/20
(05-06) L – Brad Winchester 0/19
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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oilfan94
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 01 January 2024 20:09 |
Happy New Year Fans of Oil!
Here is an all-time historical update on the Toby Reider Cup.. I found this on LT's website, credit to Pokecheck.
Goalless streak by games/season.. Reider must include playoffs.. the all-time hopeless streak.
(18-19) L – Tobias Reider 0/92
(19-20) R – Patrick Russel 0/58
(23-24) R – Connor Brown 0/43
(12-13) C – Eric Belanger 0/31
(09-10) C – Ryan Stone 0/25
(06-07) L – Jean-Francois Jacques 0/23
(17-18) R – Kailer Yamamoto 0/23
(17-18) L – Jussi Jokinen 0/22
(02-03) C – Josh Green 0/20
(05-06) L – Brad Winchester 0/19
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I think that is actually shots taken, not games played. The Oilers missed the playoffs in 2019 because Reider didn't score any goals.
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Skookum Jim
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| oilfan94 wrote on Tue, 02 January 2024 07:21 |
I think that is actually shots taken, not games played. The Oilers missed the playoffs in 2019 because Reider didn't score any goals.
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Yep you're correct! .. its shots taken in goal-less seasons played.. the original post it came from didn't indicate.. I assumed GP..
I looked up the games played for those zero goal seasons.. here is the re-ordering based on GP..
Toby sure couldn't find the net.. 92 fruitless shots!!
To be fair to some of these other guys, they probably didn't get much ice time in a game played.. Connor Brown has been playing mostly top 6 .. but he's been getting more chances lately.. think he's getting pretty close to a goal!
(18-19) L – Tobias Reider 0/92 (67 games)
(19-20) R – Patrick Russel 0/58 (45 games)
(06-07) L – Jean-Francois Jacques 0/23 (37 games)
(23-24) R – Connor Brown 0/43 (27 games.. and counting)
(09-10) C – Ryan Stone 0/25 (27 games)
(12-13) C – Eric Belanger 0/31 (26 games)
(02-03) C – Josh Green 0/20 (20 games)
(05-06) L – Brad Winchester 0/19 (19 games)
(17-18) L – Jussi Jokinen 0/22 (14 games)
(17-18) R – Kailer Yamamoto 0/23 (9 games)
[Updated on: Tue, 02 January 2024 11:06]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Skookum Jim
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 17 December 2023 12:37 |
.. and the winner is ...
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Against inconceivable odds.. (he was only up against defenseman C. Ceci*) ..
Tonight we have the 23-24 Toby Reider Cup WINNER !
Connor Brown! 
* I can't believe all the people that doubted Cody!
[Updated on: Tue, 13 February 2024 22:48]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Skookum Jim
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C.Brown Score a goal this regular season [ 14 vote(s) ] |
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| 1. | 1. LOL! 😂 |  7 / 50% | | 2. | 2. Yep.. an Empty Netter! | 3 / 21% | | 3. | 3. Yes at least one.. not EN | 4 / 29% |
.. now for another poll ..
Does C. Brown score a goal this season?
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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inverno76
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 13 February 2024 22:37 |
.. now for another poll ..
Does C. Brown score a goal this season?
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It has to happen, and when he gets one he will get more. It is not like he's not getting quality chances or quality shots on the net. He has Scott Gomez'itis.
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Dragon_Matt
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Brown gets shots... I think it's a stretch to say many of them have been 'quality'
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oilfan94
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| Dragon_Matt wrote on Thu, 15 February 2024 11:16 |
Brown gets shots... I think it's a stretch to say many of them have been 'quality'
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Some of them might have been quality if it wasn't Conner Brown taking them.
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inverno76
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| oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 15 February 2024 09:39 |
| Dragon_Matt wrote on Thu, 15 February 2024 11:16 |
Brown gets shots... I think it's a stretch to say many of them have been 'quality'
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Some of them might have been quality if it wasn't Conner Brown taking them.
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Geez ... I dunno? Maybe he doesn't rip it like Matthews, but I can think of multiple times where I have been in complete disbelief wondering how the puck stayed out.
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Skookum Jim
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| inverno76 wrote on Thu, 15 February 2024 08:59 |
| oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 15 February 2024 09:39 |
| Dragon_Matt wrote on Thu, 15 February 2024 11:16 |
Brown gets shots... I think it's a stretch to say many of them have been 'quality'
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Some of them might have been quality if it wasn't Conner Brown taking them.
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Geez ... I dunno? Maybe he doesn't rip it like Matthews, but I can think of multiple times where I have been in complete disbelief wondering how the puck stayed out.
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There was one where he got a beauty cross seam pass .. right past the goalie to the other side.. Brown had the gaping open net .. sure goal.. Brown took the shot .. hit the goalie and deflected out of play (it was going past/front of the net).. Louie gave the goalie credit for making a great save.. but on the replay the shot wasn't even on the net.. the guy has had triple A opportunities.. no Finnish... or Swedish... or even Norwegian .. :)
The guy works his butt off.. eventually the rock will crack.. 👍🏻
[Updated on: Thu, 15 February 2024 15:17]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Suomalainen
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Bump of the year!
97.
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Skookum Jim
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| Suomalainen wrote on Thu, 14 March 2024 09:42 |
Bump of the year!
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Haha! Well done!
Congratulations Connor Brown!
Connor Brown beat everyone to win the Toby Cup.. but he couldn't beat Toby!
List of Oiler Goal-less seasons. Connor was getting close!
(18-19) L – Tobias Reider 0/92 (67 games)
(23-24) R – Connor Brown 0/88 (54 games.. FINALY SCORES!)
(19-20) R – Patrick Russel 0/58 (45 games)
(06-07) L – Jean-Francois Jacques 0/23 (37 games)
(09-10) C – Ryan Stone 0/25 (27 games)
(12-13) C – Eric Belanger 0/31 (26 games)
(02-03) C – Josh Green 0/20 (20 games)
(05-06) L – Brad Winchester 0/19 (19 games)
(17-18) L – Jussi Jokinen 0/22 (14 games)
(17-18) R – Kailer Yamamoto 0/23 (9 games)
[Updated on: Thu, 14 March 2024 12:32]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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oilfan94
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 14 March 2024 14:22 |
| Suomalainen wrote on Thu, 14 March 2024 09:42 |
Bump of the year!
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Haha! Well done!
Congratulations Connor Brown!
Connor Brown beat everyone to win the Toby Cup.. but he couldn't beat Toby!
List of Oiler Goal-less seasons. Connor was getting close!
(18-19) L – Tobias Reider 0/92 (67 games)
(23-24) R – Connor Brown 0/88 (54 games.. FINALY SCORES!)
(19-20) R – Patrick Russel 0/58 (45 games)
(06-07) L – Jean-Francois Jacques 0/23 (37 games)
(09-10) C – Ryan Stone 0/25 (27 games)
(12-13) C – Eric Belanger 0/31 (26 games)
(02-03) C – Josh Green 0/20 (20 games)
(05-06) L – Brad Winchester 0/19 (19 games)
(17-18) L – Jussi Jokinen 0/22 (14 games)
(17-18) R – Kailer Yamamoto 0/23 (9 games)
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"Heroes get remembered but legends never die"
- Tobias Reider (probably)
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Skookum Jim
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.. just for reference.. there is a guy on the Avalanche that was a first rounder, #10 over-all, that in 2018-2019 played 57 games and went goal-less for the season on Dallas.. He's scored 25g + 22a = 47pts in 43 games this year.. currently getting paid $6.125M
Valeri Nichushkin
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Skookum Jim
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| oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 14 March 2024 12:31 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 14 March 2024 14:22 |
| Suomalainen wrote on Thu, 14 March 2024 09:42 |
Bump of the year!
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Haha! Well done!
Congratulations Connor Brown!
Connor Brown beat everyone to win the Toby Cup.. but he couldn't beat Toby!
List of Oiler Goal-less seasons. Connor was getting close!
(18-19) L – Tobias Reider 0/92 (67 games)
(23-24) R – Connor Brown 0/88 (54 games.. FINALY SCORES!)
(19-20) R – Patrick Russel 0/58 (45 games)
(06-07) L – Jean-Francois Jacques 0/23 (37 games)
(09-10) C – Ryan Stone 0/25 (27 games)
(12-13) C – Eric Belanger 0/31 (26 games)
(02-03) C – Josh Green 0/20 (20 games)
(05-06) L – Brad Winchester 0/19 (19 games)
(17-18) L – Jussi Jokinen 0/22 (14 games)
(17-18) R – Kailer Yamamoto 0/23 (9 games)
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"Heroes get remembered but legends never die"
- Tobias Reider (probably)
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Agree.. Toby is LEGEND 
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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welcometotheOC
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 15 March 2024 00:56 |
.. just for reference.. there is a guy on the Avalanche that was a first rounder, #10 over-all, that in 2018-2019 played 57 games and went goal-less for the season on Dallas.. He's scored 25g + 22a = 47pts in 43 games this year.. currently getting paid $6.125M
Valeri Nichushkin
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But then... he's no Tobias Reider !!
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Skookum Jim
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| welcometotheOC wrote on Fri, 15 March 2024 07:48 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 15 March 2024 00:56 |
.. just for reference.. there is a guy on the Avalanche that was a first rounder, #10 over-all, that in 2018-2019 played 57 games and went goal-less for the season on Dallas.. He's scored 25g + 22a = 47pts in 43 games this year.. currently getting paid $6.125M
Valeri Nichushkin
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But then... he's no Tobias Reider !!
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Agree.. Nobody has Tobied like Toby 👍🏻
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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