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Re: Gotta Get a Goalie! [message #827578 is a reply to message #827551 ]	Thu, 23 November 2023 16:43

Adam
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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 23 November 2023 08:49

Adam wrote on Wed, 22 November 2023 16:37

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 22 November 2023 16:20

I assume since so many fans complain about passing on Wallstedt that at just 21 8 days ago, he's ready to be an NHL starter right now?

Lots of up arrows on the player. Doing great in the AHL currently.

As for age of the netminder, I know that there's a bunch of old hockey guys who'll try to convince you that goalies don't become NHL ready until they're way in to their 20s. Of course, that ignores the fact that most of the all-time wins leaders were starting netminders by the time they were 21. Roy, Brodeur, Fuhr, Fleury...the idea that you need several years in the AHL first is patently false. Just another stupid hockey cliche.

Simple question for you Adam. Why can't you show me any kind of decency as a human being? I've backed off. I barely comment on anything you say anymore on purpose. The amount I post, i've tapered back. Why do you feel the need to be a prick and take shots at me anytime I say anything, is your problem?

I don't watch AHL games from the Minnesota Wild OK. Maybe you do, I don't. So I know very little about the guy. I simply asked a question because everyone raves about him and I don't know much about him. That's it. Why was is necessary for you to take another shot at me and make it seem like I am just some dumb, old hockey guy that doesn't know anything? I'd like to know what the reason was for.

My comment about his age was based solely on the fact that the majority of goalies drafted typically are barely starting their pro careers at just turned 21. Lots are still either in college or barely out of junior. You rarely see a goalie at barely 21 in the NHL let alone as a starter. So I was asking the question.

So what is your problem with me? If you don't want to do it here, I am coming up for the game on Tuesday and I got no problem meeting someone face to face.

As Mike says, I'm not around this week. However, I will say, I do not know what you are talking about. I really didn't take any personal shots at you there. I said that the relatively wide-spread erroneous belief that goalies need to be older before they make the league isn't actually based on real facts - just narrative from guys like Stauffer and Matheson and Jones and Spector and their clones across the league. There are lots of goalies who play in the league at a younger age and excel. Same with defencemen - another group where this mythology exists.

I think you see me disagreeing with you as a personal thing - I really don't. I have a different opinion and I am expressing it. I believe I'm right (I often am) so I'm pretty confident in defending my point of view. But it's never about you. I think the fact that you tend to echo some of these old hockey theories tends to make you more likely than most to get my reply - but I encourage you, as always, to not take any of this too seriously. It's talking about a sport. A frustrating one, no doubt, but just a sport. In the overall scheme of things, it's pretty little.

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