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 Kr55
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 15 November 2023 10:01 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 15 November 2023 09:52 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 15 November 2023 09:40 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 15 November 2023 09:16 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 15 November 2023 08:55 |
It has to be purely the mental side of the game for Campbell. At 31, he's not old enough that his body should be breaking down so much or his skills have eroded due to age.
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He's never been consistent or good at saving high quality chances in his NHL career so he may not need to have his game fall off much to become a mess at the NHL level.
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I am not saying he was ever an elite goalie but the previous seasons he posted:
18-19 - 31 GP - 2.29, .928 (Kings)
19-20 - 20GP - 2.85, .900 (Kings)
- 6 GP - 2.63, .915 (Leafs)
20-21 - 22 GP - 2.15, .921
21-22 - 49 GP - 2.64, .914
So prior to coming to the Oilers, he had a pretty decent track record of being back to play at least decent. Again, not saying he was ever elite but he could play. He looks like he can't play.
I don't think a person can blame Schwartz because he wouldn't have worked with him in the summer of 22 after leaving the Leafs and he came to the Oilers and fell off a cliff. This past offseason, I don't know if he worked with Schwartz, I'm assuming he would have continued to work with who ever he normally does in the offseason and again, he looks like he can't play in the NHL.
So something is seriously up with the guy and unless he's hiding some hip injury or something, it doesn't appear to physical in my opinion.
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The problem with Campbell in Toronto was he was always up and down. Very good one game, very bad the next. They (and the Oilers) needed a tender that would give them .907 every night and Campbell wasn't that guy. When he came here on the big contract with a rookie partner as backup he was set up to fail. Leafs fans knew this was coming.
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I understand he was up and down, that's why I said he was not an elite goalie. There was also risk in signing him to the deal he got. The Leafs tried to resign him but given his contract demands which was he wanted the going rate, the Leafs let him go. Based on what goalies were getting that year, Campbell got market value and the Leafs made the right call in not giving him that. Unfortunately, the Oilers screwed up big time giving him that deal.
Where I disagree with you to a small degree is, I think the Leafs saw him as a guy that wouldn't be worth 5 mill, I doubt they thought he would fall so far that he might be out of the league by the end of this season. Considering they did try to resign him at first, they obviously saw him as a goalie that could play, just not worth 5 mill.
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I think there was some loyalty felt towards Campbell from Dubas and the leafs. They went through a lot of up and down with him. Walking from a player when you have no replacement is tough, but they did it, and had to play around quite a bit to fill the position again. Took an analytics based risk on Murray that forgot to account for how he was made of glass :)
One thing about Campbell is that his high danger sav% was always extremely poor. Even putting up good sav%, he was still very bad at making tough saves, which can be tracked pretty easily now. He continues to do the same here. Being a backup most of his career probably helped him, and other teams may have played a better style for him, keeping the shot quality down. I would bet that the leafs analytics were highlighting this, which made it much easier to talk themselves into just letting him move on. I'd be curious to know who else was offering him big money. Most analytics departments would have had a huge red flag on him back when he was UFA. We made it pretty easy of course, because we were desperate, and the only way Holland knows how to get stuff in summer is throwing money at UFA's.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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