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 OilFans
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Oscargasm
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18 minutes later… puck finally down.
Survivor CHAMP S52 | S66
OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
Category 1 - Lightly Musty
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Category 3 - Considerably Musty
Category 4 - Severely Musty
Category 5 - Incredibly Musty
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tardigrade81
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Scrap early. I like it
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HamBlaster
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Bouchard needs to not be a giveaway machine.
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tardigrade81
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Massively out playing them. Their goalie is keeping it 1-0 them
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HamBlaster
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Bouchard is amazing on D. Just a wizard.
This is such an Oilers start to the game, and the season. So much for the awesome defensive strategy.
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tardigrade81
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Ya that’s one word for it lol
This is ugly. What the hell
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 Kr55
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Location: Edmonton
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Lol. Already spanked ourselves with our zone defense. 2 players covering no one with Boeser inbetween
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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HamBlaster
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Canucks are running this team out of the building right now. Good work boys!
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tardigrade81
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Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
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Just get out of this period without it going to 3-0. This is ugly
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Oscargasm
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Registered: May 2009
Location: YEG
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I hate being negative on night 1… but that said, not sure why we expect anything different this year when they are running it back with pretty well the identical squad to last season.
No Ekholm is a gaping hole on D.
Survivor CHAMP S52 | S66
OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
Category 1 - Lightly Musty
Category 2 - Moderately Musty
Category 3 - Considerably Musty
Category 4 - Severely Musty
Category 5 - Incredibly Musty
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nullterm
Messages: 1033
Registered: July 2007
Location: Port Moody, BC
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Nothing changed roster wise from last season, so I’m super puzzled at all the predictions that were Cup favourites. We’re still vulnerable to any team that knows how to grind us and capitalize on our mistakes.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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HamBlaster
Messages: 989
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Absolutely. Ekholm is sorely missed back there.
A lot of guys standing around out there, not really instilling a lot of confidence in this new "system" they'll be using this year.
I'm not going to say I'm surprised though... in the preseason, Bouchard was a huge defensive liability. I thought maybe it might be him just easing into the season and making the odd error here and there... but no, this is just Evan's game. Can do some amazing things on the attack, but he's a nightmare on D.
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tardigrade81
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| Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 12 October 2023 03:52 |
I hate being negative on night 1… but that said, not sure why we expect anything different this year when they are running it back with pretty well the identical squad to last season.
No Ekholm is a gaping hole on D.
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Agreed. However… that was ugly. Did we have anything more than 1 shot in the last 15 minutes lol?
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Kr55
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Location: Edmonton
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| Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 20:52 |
I hate being negative on night 1… but that said, not sure why we expect anything different this year when they are running it back with pretty well the identical squad to last season.
No Ekholm is a gaping hole on D.
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This team is playing like they spent the last week reading how they are a cup favorite. Such classic Oilers. Max fancy pants PP to start off trying to force every play. Some lazy brain-dead defending.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Kr55
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Location: Edmonton
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| nullterm wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 20:55 |
Nothing changed roster wise from last season, so I’m super puzzled at all the predictions that were Cup favourites. We’re still vulnerable to any team that knows how to grind us and capitalize on our mistakes.
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Bouch's last 1/3 of last season, adding Ekholm and Skinner's regular season stats gave us the boost in most analytics models.
It is the same as the team that finishes last playoffs, but definitely looks better on paper vs the one that started last year that was already ranked pretty high. Hard to score low when you start with McDavid and Drai.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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tardigrade81
Messages: 2262
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Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
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Just get a early goal
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Kr55
Messages: 10770
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Location: Edmonton
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What does it mean for Bouch's bargaining position if, when paired with 9.25M Nurse, Nurse looks as clueless, if not more, defensively but Bouch also outscores him by 20-30 points?
Such a gross pair
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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tardigrade81
Messages: 2262
Registered: November 2022
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
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Good luck the rest of the way oilers. This is ugly. I need to get some sleep
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smyth260
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I think it would be a good idea for the Oilers to have plan C and D goaltending this year.
Clean house or bust
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HamBlaster
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This is inexcusable garbage.
For a team that is supposed to look like they are contending this year, presently they look like they are going to replace the Blackhawks and the Coyotes at the bottom of the league.
Nice effort boys. Super awesome effort.
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nullterm
Messages: 1033
Registered: July 2007
Location: Port Moody, BC
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If we can swap Campbell and Demko mid game we might have a chance.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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Jack is back! Worked so hard on his game this summer!
It feels like 60% of this game has been in the Canucks zone but the Oilers failing to get great chances and failing to score when they do and the Canucks scoring every time they have a sniff.
Need a big comeback here.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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Skookum Jim
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Location: Burnaby, BC
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| HamBlaster wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 19:28 |
Bouchard needs to not be a giveaway machine.
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I think we'll be glad they never gave him an 8 x 8 contract..
Oilers starting out of the gate like a bottom feeder.
[Updated on: Wed, 11 October 2023 21:33]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Kr55
Messages: 10770
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Location: Edmonton
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| smyth260 wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 21:21 |
I think it would be a good idea for the Oilers to have plan C and D goaltending this year.
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So few options now to free up space and add a good goalie. Barrie was an easy move with Bouch waiting.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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nullterm
Messages: 1033
Registered: July 2007
Location: Port Moody, BC
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 20:27 |
| HamBlaster wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 19:28 |
Bouchard needs to not be a giveaway machine.
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I think we'll be glad they never gave him an 8 x 8 contract..
Oilers starting out of the gate like a bottom feeder.
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Bouchard wishing he got the big deal, that pan has flashed and I highly doubt he’ll repeat last season.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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Kr55
Messages: 10770
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| nullterm wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 21:30 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 20:27 |
| HamBlaster wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 19:28 |
Bouchard needs to not be a giveaway machine.
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I think we'll be glad they never gave him an 8 x 8 contract..
Oilers starting out of the gate like a bottom feeder.
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Bouchard wishing he got the big deal, that pan has flashed and I highly doubt he’ll repeat last season.
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Bouch will be alright boys. Assist now. Only out for 1 goal when he was left on the boards in a 2 on 1 battle while Nurse and the airheads were playing "zone defense".
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Kr55
Messages: 10770
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 21:33 |
| nullterm wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 21:30 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 20:27 |
| HamBlaster wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 19:28 |
Bouchard needs to not be a giveaway machine.
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I think we'll be glad they never gave him an 8 x 8 contract..
Oilers starting out of the gate like a bottom feeder.
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Bouchard wishing he got the big deal, that pan has flashed and I highly doubt he’ll repeat last season.
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Bouch will be alright boys. Assist now. Only out for 1 goal when he was left on the boards in a 2 on 1 battle while Nurse and the airheads were playing "zone defense".
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Haha. Nice timing with the penalty Bouch!!
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4418
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| nullterm wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 20:30 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 20:27 |
| HamBlaster wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 19:28 |
Bouchard needs to not be a giveaway machine.
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I think we'll be glad they never gave him an 8 x 8 contract..
Oilers starting out of the gate like a bottom feeder.
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Bouchard wishing he got the big deal, that pan has flashed and I highly doubt he’ll repeat last season.
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Without Ekholm that D looks amateurish.. Bouch and Nurse both aren't good at defense.. I thought it might be a costly pairing.. hoped for better.. like an improved Bouchard.. Bouch doesn't look any more decisive with the puck this year.. and/or quicker moving the puck.. coughed up a puck on a slow-mo back pass to 97 on the PP.. and didn't even register with him it might be a dangerous move.. puck awareness seems low.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Oscargasm
Messages: 5911
Registered: May 2009
Location: YEG
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Man defense? Oilers leak goals
Zone defense? Oilers leak goals
Maaaaaybe it’s not the system but the performers?
I miss Klefbom
Survivor CHAMP S52 | S66
OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
Category 1 - Lightly Musty
Category 2 - Moderately Musty
Category 3 - Considerably Musty
Category 4 - Severely Musty
Category 5 - Incredibly Musty
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HamBlaster
Messages: 989
Registered: June 2007
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LOLOL. Skinner comes in and gives up a goal. This game will need to be remembered for just how badly it went.
This team thought they were going to be hockey gods this year. What a wake up call this one is.
Hahahaha... wow.
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Kr55
Messages: 10770
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 21:38 |
| nullterm wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 20:30 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 20:27 |
| HamBlaster wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 19:28 |
Bouchard needs to not be a giveaway machine.
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I think we'll be glad they never gave him an 8 x 8 contract..
Oilers starting out of the gate like a bottom feeder.
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Bouchard wishing he got the big deal, that pan has flashed and I highly doubt he’ll repeat last season.
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Without Ekholm that D looks amateurish.. Bouch and Nurse both aren't good at defense.. I thought it might be a costly pairing.. hoped for better.. like an improved Bouchard.. Bouch doesn't look any more decisive with the puck this year.. and/or quicker moving the puck.. coughed up a puck on a slow-mo back pass to 97 on the PP.. and didn't even register with him it might be a dangerous move.. puck awareness seems low.
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Bouch is gonna be very similar to a guy like Carlson. Never gonna be that good defensively. His value will be moving the puck up and making good breakout passes and dominating on the PP. He needs a solid D partner. It is what it is. Guys like Bouch are harder to get than a D that can play solid heads up D though. Holland just kinda sucks at finding those guys and we are capped out.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4418
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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Might add.. fan of Holloway .. and he was looking good for the 1st period.. but in the 2nd coughed up the puck on a zone entry.. then promptly took a lazy tripping penalty..
McLeod flying..
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4418
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Location: Burnaby, BC
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| HamBlaster wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 20:43 |
LOLOL. Skinner comes in and gives up a goal. This game will need to be remembered for just how badly it went.
This team thought they were going to be hockey gods this year. What a wake up call this one is.
Hahahaha... wow.
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Doesn't seem like the early season captain's practices have helped.. maybe only McD was doing any skating?
I was almost thinking of buying a row 8 ticket to this game.. but had a bad feeling.. glad I acknowledged it.
[Updated on: Wed, 11 October 2023 21:48]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Adam
Messages: 7176
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Location: Edmonton, AB
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Oilers have controlled the play for large sections of this game but they haven’t got any saves. They’re also not getting enough pucks on net. Frustrating though when every chance against is in the back of the net.
We can’t be real contenders for the Cup with no goalies.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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g2k
Messages: 2840
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Location: The Hood
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Is this preseason Nuge or playoff Nuge?
Better yet. Is there a difference?
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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Ragnarok73
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| Adam wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 21:52 |
Oilers have controlled the play for large sections of this game but they haven’t got any saves. They’re also not getting enough pucks on net. Frustrating though when every chance against is in the back of the net.
We can’t be real contenders for the Cup with no goalies.
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The Knights won the Cup with a pair of scrubs. It can be done if other areas of the team like the D can be shored up…
"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.
5-14-6-1
"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."
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Kr55
Messages: 10770
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Location: Edmonton
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| Adam wrote on Wed, 11 October 2023 21:52 |
Oilers have controlled the play for large sections of this game but they haven’t got any saves. They’re also not getting enough pucks on net. Frustrating though when every chance against is in the back of the net.
We can’t be real contenders for the Cup with no goalies.
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This is classic Oilers. Lots of chances but we defeat ourselves on most of them with trash shots and still get covered and boxed out really well. Then we allow the other team to get wide open chances with zero coverage to put the puck wherever they want.
Our defending has been embarassing. If the Canucks defended like us we would have 5 goals easy.
Just not many team defend like us. They make sure their lineup has D that can defend.
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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oiltec
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Registered: December 2022
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Campbell is picking up right where he left off last season, and Kane is no where to be found.
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oiltec
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| smyth260 wrote on Thu, 12 October 2023 04:21 |
I think it would be a good idea for the Oilers to have plan C and D goaltending this year.
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Have to agree, goaltending and defense are definitely not the Oilers strong suit. I don't know what the brain-trust, and I use that term loosely, were thinking not attempting to improve them.
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