 RDOilerfan
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| smyth260 wrote on Wed, 05 July 2023 15:52 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 05 July 2023 14:45 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2023 15:11 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 05 July 2023 15:05 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2023 15:02 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 05 July 2023 14:56 |
That's disappointing. Guys who go to arbitration tend to get paid too much in my opinion. I like McLeod but he has big time consistency problems, way too often he plays a perimeter game when a guy his size and speed should be driving the net all the time and his career high is 23 pt. I look at what you actually produced vs what you might. If a person looks at his game logs, they will see a guy who will pile up a bunch of points in a short span, then go really long stretches where you have to check the game sheet to know he existed that game.
Doubling his salary to be around 1.5 mill should be more than fair.
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If arbitrators consistently paid guys too much, they'd stop being selected as arbitrators.
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I don't have a list of all the arb case results but I don't recall seeing an arb case where I come away thinking. "wow, what a great deal". The players tend to do pretty well.
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That says more about your evaluation of players than the arbitration system. I'll say it again, if arbitrators consistently awarded too much they would stop being selected as arbitrators. If arbitrators occasionally awarded too much, teams would walk away from the players. If the system was fundamentally flawed it would have been changed in bargaining or become a bargaining issue.
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RDO, NHL GMs are dumb. They do dumb things all the time. Last season Holland accepted Yamo'sr 3.1 x 2 arbitration. This year he's decide Yams is worthless. That's dumb. It's noticeable.
This is your quote from the Yamo thread who you said Holland was dumb for accepting the arbitrators contract because he wasn't worth it.
So explain why if the arbitrators are good at their job and handing out good, fair contracts, then why was it dumb for Holland to accept Yamo's at the time? That's what the arbitrator said he was worth and he was dead wrong. The Oilers felt Yamo was paid too much so they traded him to the Wings who agreed and bought him out. Then Seattle also agreed that paying Yamo 3.1 was too much so they signed him for less than half of what he was making this past season.
So, if the arbitrators are good, also explain Puljujarvi's contract? That contract was agreed too just before he was to go to his arb case. The 3 mill would have taken into consideration what the arbitrator was probably going to award him. So the arbitrator thought a guy who scored 5 goals playing with McDavid was a 3mill player.
There is 2 instances where the player got way more than they should have based on the arbitrator. So I assume that guy must be fired then?
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Yamamoto didn’t go to arbitration.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/oilers-yamamoto-avoids- arbitration-by-signing-two-year-6-2m-deal/
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Ok my mistake. Doesn't change much though. The agent wouldn't have agreed to that number if it was far off what he thought/knew the arbitrator was going to award them. All they did was avoid going to the hearing and having the team carve up the player to try and get the number down.
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