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 Adrean
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It's Ekholm and a sixth to EDM
To NASH it's Tyson Barrie, Reid Schaefer, a first this year and a fourth.
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That's a lot of return for NSH with no retention for a 32 year old. Great deal for THIS year. Future, we'll see.
I think more is coming.
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| Skoobz wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:50 |
That's a lot of return for NSH with no retention for a 32 year old. Great deal for THIS year. Future, we'll see.
I think more is coming.
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They're retaining 4% of his salary. We have a master negotiator on our side. Don't you forget it ;)
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| Adrean wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:42 |
Elliotte Friedman
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It's Ekholm and a sixth to EDM
To NASH it's Tyson Barrie, Reid Schaefer, a first this year and a fourth.
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Feel like Barrie and a 1st is a lot to give up unless nash is retaining a good chunk of salary.
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| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 17:52 |
| Adrean wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:42 |
Elliotte Friedman
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It's Ekholm and a sixth to EDM
To NASH it's Tyson Barrie, Reid Schaefer, a first this year and a fourth.
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Feel like Barrie and a 1st is a lot to give up unless nash is retaining a good chunk of salary.
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They are retaining 4% so his hit is $6M even for us.
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| oilfan94 wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:55 |
They are retaining 4% so his hit is $6M even for us.
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LOL!
Math is a lot easier with round numbers.
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We're overall better team, but our PP just took a big hit. Now depending on Bouchard or Nurse to step up.
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| nullterm wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:59 |
We're overall better team, but our PP just took a big hit. Now depending on Bouchard or Nurse to step up.
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Bouchard becomes Barrie? I think the PP might take a hit, but that becomes less valuable as the year goes on.
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Finally another defenseman capable of playing 20+ minutes a night.
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 16:00 |
| nullterm wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:59 |
We're overall better team, but our PP just took a big hit. Now depending on Bouchard or Nurse to step up.
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Bouchard becomes Barrie? I think the PP might take a hit, but that becomes less valuable as the year goes on.
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It will be interesting to see how much different the PP with with Bouchard.
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 16:00 |
| nullterm wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:59 |
We're overall better team, but our PP just took a big hit. Now depending on Bouchard or Nurse to step up.
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Bouchard becomes Barrie? I think the PP might take a hit, but that becomes less valuable as the year goes on.
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Nuge better be ready with the boots when Bouch falls asleep on the keep in.
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| K.McC#24 wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 09:51 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 16:00 |
| nullterm wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:59 |
We're overall better team, but our PP just took a big hit. Now depending on Bouchard or Nurse to step up.
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Bouchard becomes Barrie? I think the PP might take a hit, but that becomes less valuable as the year goes on.
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Nuge better be ready with the boots when Bouch falls asleep on the keep in.
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Or shoots it straight into a PK forward's shinguard and it bounces out of the zone.
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My advice to him would be when in doubt just throw it into the corner.
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| nullterm wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 13:15 |
| K.McC#24 wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 09:51 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 16:00 |
| nullterm wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:59 |
We're overall better team, but our PP just took a big hit. Now depending on Bouchard or Nurse to step up.
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Bouchard becomes Barrie? I think the PP might take a hit, but that becomes less valuable as the year goes on.
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Nuge better be ready with the boots when Bouch falls asleep on the keep in.
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Or shoots it straight into a PK forward's shinguard and it bounces out of the zone.
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I'm not sure Bouch gets the immediate promotion to PP1 and just takes on the Barrie role. Nurse should have more minutes available now that he doesn't have to take all the hard minutes. Ekholm has been behind Josi in PP duties for years, but he has gotten some time and points in Nashville. Broberg used to score points. I can see Woodcorft trying some things out for most of the rest of the regular season.
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 12:36 |
| nullterm wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 13:15 |
| K.McC#24 wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 09:51 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 16:00 |
| nullterm wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:59 |
We're overall better team, but our PP just took a big hit. Now depending on Bouchard or Nurse to step up.
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Bouchard becomes Barrie? I think the PP might take a hit, but that becomes less valuable as the year goes on.
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Nuge better be ready with the boots when Bouch falls asleep on the keep in.
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Or shoots it straight into a PK forward's shinguard and it bounces out of the zone.
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I'm not sure Bouch gets the immediate promotion to PP1 and just takes on the Barrie role. Nurse should have more minutes available now that he doesn't have to take all the hard minutes. Ekholm has been behind Josi in PP duties for years, but he has gotten some time and points in Nashville. Broberg used to score points. I can see Woodcorft trying some things out for most of the rest of the regular season.
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Bouchard 1:46 has almost twice the PP TOI/GM of Nurse 0:56.
I could definitely see going with Nurse on PP1, but numbers wise Woody's history favours Bouchard.
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I don't think the question of how Nurse would perform on the PP even matters. Bouchard is a solid choice, but do you really want to increase Nurse's TOI more? We JUST got a guy that could help reduce that TOI to help him perform better for the time he is out there.
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| Dragon_Matt wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 15:46 |
I don't think the question of how Nurse would perform on the PP even matters. Bouchard is a solid choice, but do you really want to increase Nurse's TOI more? We JUST got a guy that could help reduce that TOI to help him perform better for the time he is out there.
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That's what I mean. Nurse's TOI is going to decrease simply because Ekholm can play defense. So now he might have some spare time that can be spent on the PP. I do think Bouchard also gets time, but I question how much the coaching staff trusts him out there.
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| nullterm wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 14:32 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 12:36 |
| nullterm wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 13:15 |
| K.McC#24 wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 09:51 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 16:00 |
| nullterm wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:59 |
We're overall better team, but our PP just took a big hit. Now depending on Bouchard or Nurse to step up.
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Bouchard becomes Barrie? I think the PP might take a hit, but that becomes less valuable as the year goes on.
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Nuge better be ready with the boots when Bouch falls asleep on the keep in.
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Or shoots it straight into a PK forward's shinguard and it bounces out of the zone.
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I'm not sure Bouch gets the immediate promotion to PP1 and just takes on the Barrie role. Nurse should have more minutes available now that he doesn't have to take all the hard minutes. Ekholm has been behind Josi in PP duties for years, but he has gotten some time and points in Nashville. Broberg used to score points. I can see Woodcorft trying some things out for most of the rest of the regular season.
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Bouchard 1:46 has almost twice the PP TOI/GM of Nurse 0:56.
I could definitely see going with Nurse on PP1, but numbers wise Woody's history favours Bouchard.
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I think Broberg will eventually be the guy on PP1.. better mobility than either Nurse of Bouchard.. and has a decent shot.. and usually alert.
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 16:31 |
| nullterm wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 14:32 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 12:36 |
| nullterm wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 13:15 |
| K.McC#24 wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 09:51 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 16:00 |
| nullterm wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:59 |
We're overall better team, but our PP just took a big hit. Now depending on Bouchard or Nurse to step up.
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Bouchard becomes Barrie? I think the PP might take a hit, but that becomes less valuable as the year goes on.
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Nuge better be ready with the boots when Bouch falls asleep on the keep in.
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Or shoots it straight into a PK forward's shinguard and it bounces out of the zone.
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I'm not sure Bouch gets the immediate promotion to PP1 and just takes on the Barrie role. Nurse should have more minutes available now that he doesn't have to take all the hard minutes. Ekholm has been behind Josi in PP duties for years, but he has gotten some time and points in Nashville. Broberg used to score points. I can see Woodcorft trying some things out for most of the rest of the regular season.
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Bouchard 1:46 has almost twice the PP TOI/GM of Nurse 0:56.
I could definitely see going with Nurse on PP1, but numbers wise Woody's history favours Bouchard.
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I think Broberg will eventually be the guy on PP1.. better mobility than either Nurse of Bouchard.. and has a decent shot.. and usually alert.
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I'd like to take a moment and acknowledge how much of a step up I've seen from Broberg lately. Early on I was a bit worried with what I was seeing, but lately he's looked so much more solid, confident, and smooth. I think he'll overtake Bouchard pretty soon.
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Skookum Jim
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| nullterm wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 16:34 |
I'd like to take a moment and acknowledge how much of a step up I've seen from Broberg lately. Early on I was a bit worried with what I was seeing, but lately he's looked so much more solid, confident, and smooth. I think he'll overtake Bouchard pretty soon.
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That's one bonus with having an accomplished vet Swede in Ekholm on the team, provides a good mentor/role-model for rookie Broberg..
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P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 17:31 |
| nullterm wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 14:32 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 12:36 |
| nullterm wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 13:15 |
| K.McC#24 wrote on Wed, 01 March 2023 09:51 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 16:00 |
| nullterm wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:59 |
We're overall better team, but our PP just took a big hit. Now depending on Bouchard or Nurse to step up.
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Bouchard becomes Barrie? I think the PP might take a hit, but that becomes less valuable as the year goes on.
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Nuge better be ready with the boots when Bouch falls asleep on the keep in.
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Or shoots it straight into a PK forward's shinguard and it bounces out of the zone.
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I'm not sure Bouch gets the immediate promotion to PP1 and just takes on the Barrie role. Nurse should have more minutes available now that he doesn't have to take all the hard minutes. Ekholm has been behind Josi in PP duties for years, but he has gotten some time and points in Nashville. Broberg used to score points. I can see Woodcorft trying some things out for most of the rest of the regular season.
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Bouchard 1:46 has almost twice the PP TOI/GM of Nurse 0:56.
I could definitely see going with Nurse on PP1, but numbers wise Woody's history favours Bouchard.
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I think Broberg will eventually be the guy on PP1.. better mobility than either Nurse of Bouchard.. and has a decent shot.. and usually alert.
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Broberg doesn't have the offensive game. He'd be like Nurse - a capable fill-in, but not a true powerplay guy.
Bouchard will flourish there given a chance to play regularly. There's a danger it'll impact his salary discussions this year, because it could add a significant number of points to his totals even with limited time left in the year.
I agree with kr55 though - the powerplay defenceman isn't the key driver he is on some other teams. He'll get a lot of touches, and if he can get a shot through he's going to pick up a fair amount of points, but McDavid quarterbacks the PP, and after him, it's Draisaitl and Nugent-Hopkins that keep things going. Both Hyman and the defenceman are important - you wouldn't want just anyone doing the job - but they're still replaceable without a noticeable drop-off.
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Kr55
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| nullterm wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:59 |
We're overall better team, but our PP just took a big hit. Now depending on Bouchard or Nurse to step up.
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Gonna take a bet that the PP will be fine. It was tops in the league before Barrie got here. Always scored fine even when Nurse had to fill in. Maybe little growing pain for Bouch, but we really don't ask that much of the D for the PP. Just to not screw up and lose the puck. Honestly we should have been using him there more already to prepare for Barrie inevitably leaving.
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| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 16:02 |
| nullterm wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:59 |
We're overall better team, but our PP just took a big hit. Now depending on Bouchard or Nurse to step up.
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Gonna take a bet that the PP will be fine. It was tops in the league before Barrie got here. Always scored fine even when Nurse had to fill in. Maybe little growing pain for Bouch, but we really don't ask that much of the D for the PP. Just to not screw up and lose the puck. Honestly we should have been using him there more already to prepare for Barrie inevitably leaving.
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I agree completely. The greatest PP is not going to all of sudden become useless because Tyson Barrie isn't on it.
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Skookum Jim
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| nullterm wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 14:59 |
We're overall better team, but our PP just took a big hit. Now depending on Bouchard or Nurse to step up.
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Can't see it.. big hole on the PP.. Barrie has good instincts at PP QB.. can't see either Nurse or Bouchard being capable of the task.
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P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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I like the trade. Schaefer is probably 2-3 yrs min away. The first this year is hopefully a low pick and Barrie to make the money work.
This is a win now move. Moving out future to bring in a guy that fits exactly what they need. A top 4 dman that defends very well, helps on the PK, brings some physical play. He's something they lack. I like the trade, I think it gives the Oilers the exact type of dman they need..
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He’s a good player right now, but it does seem like a lot for a contract that may not age well. 33 this May and 3 more years at 6M after this. Hopefully he still has a few good years in him.
How much does Barrie and Puljujarvi out and Ekholm in move the needle? Still think we need to add here.
The advance stats community loves this for us so that’s a good sign.
Let’s see what happens.
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I do like that they didn't have to give up on any of their right now, ready to go prospects. Holloway, Broberg are ready to go to impact the line up now and for the next few seasons. Bourgault could be close. Even Bouchard is still a bit of a prospect in my opinion because he's not a finished product.
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Bouchard's lateral skating isn't what it needs to be on the PP....maybe even less effective than Klefbom. At this rate, I'd rather see Nuge quarterbacking the PP from the blue line than having Bouchard as the main facilitator from the back end (though still need him for his shot out there)
I'm quite upset about Barrie being the sacrificial lamb but his name being thrown out there in the Karlsson rumors merely meant writing was on the wall....
Going to need some more depth forwards after this trade....
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Love the trade as long as he stays healthy. Losing Barrie hurts though
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Flames fans dislike this trade. That's all the approval I need.
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Skookum Jim
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| kungpaobenji27 wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 15:18 |
Bouchard's lateral skating isn't what it needs to be on the PP....maybe even less effective than Klefbom. At this rate, I'd rather see Nuge quarterbacking the PP from the blue line than having Bouchard as the main facilitator from the back end (though still need him for his shot out there)
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I agree about Bouchard.. his deficiency for PP QB is his lack of lateral mobility along the blueline.. Barrie was very mobile and positionally savvy on the PP.
I think Ekholm now becomes our best Defenseman.. (emphasis on defence)
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P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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I like the trade only thing I wish was that it was Ceci moved over Barrie but it makes sense as we need to see what Bouchard is capable of.
If he can’t do it, we move him in a deal next year.
Honestly playing on a power play like ours, it’s a pretty big gift.
Ekholm means less mins for Nurse which will help Nurse out a lot.
Another 20+ min d man here finally!
We weren’t getting Bedard so heck with the first I wanna win.
I’m worried about the off season contracts tho, Kostin, Mcleod and Bouchard.
We need to move some more $$$
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1.5 thumbs up for Holland!
Yes, I do not like losing Barrie, QB on the #1 PP in the league
Yes, I believe we gave up quite a bit of futures
BUT
We gave up less than Tampa for Jeannot
We gave up less than Boston for Orlov
And we got EXACTLY the DMan we need for the playoffs now, AND for the rest of the McDrai era.
WIN!
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Will Ekholm play tomorrow for us against the Leafs? Dubas went all out on that team.
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| NCREDiBLE wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 17:12 |
Will Ekholm play tomorrow for us against the Leafs? Dubas went all out on that team.
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Flying from Nashville to Edmonton is a total pain when Westjet and Flair (lol) aren't flying direct in the summer. Hopefully they're smart enough to get a private plane to Toronto ASAP. I assume they'd fly mostly commercial when they're changing teams.
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Skookum Jim
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Thinking about Barrie.. big loss. but might have been a good move to use Barrie in a trade now.. he's having a good season statistically .. and probably at peak market value.. probably would have been one of the top options to trade to lower team cap this summer anyway.. could be good timing.. Receiving a true No.1 defensive D-man who can skate and move the puck.. plus he's 6'-4" and a cycle-killer.
My view on Schaeffer prior to this trade was he could go either way as a prospect.. his success in the NHL is unknown.. he had some periods of no production this year.. in a league where he is larger than most of his peers.. or.. he could turn into the next Tom Wilson.. but either way he was not likely useable on the roster for up to 2 years plus..
Hopefully the 1st this year will be low if this team has any success in the playoffs..
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Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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NCREDiBLE
Messages: 258
Registered: February 2007
Location: Cold Lake, AB
No Cups
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I agree it was great to sell high on Barrie.
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Kr55
Messages: 10767
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| NCREDiBLE wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 17:34 |
I agree it was great to sell high on Barrie.
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Is that sell high value? Our 1st round pick from 2022, another 1st and we get 32 year old with 4x6M left.
I think barrie is just a toss in for the cap to work here. If a team was desperate for a PP QB, we should be getting a 1st for Barrie.
Oh well though, guess it is what it is. We need a competent defensive guy with Ceci not coming close to his last seasons play and Kulak struggling a lot. Hopefully Ekholm can create a stable pair with Bouch
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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CrusaderPi
Messages: 7803
Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
6 Cups
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| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 17:35 |
| NCREDiBLE wrote on Tue, 28 February 2023 17:34 |
I agree it was great to sell high on Barrie.
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Is that sell high value? Our 1st round pick from 2022, another 1st and we get 32 year old with 4x6M left.
I think barrie is just a toss in for the cap to work here. If a team was desperate for a PP QB, we should be getting a 1st for Barrie.
Oh well though, guess it is what it is. We need a competent defensive guy with Ceci not coming close to his last seasons play and Kulak struggling a lot. Hopefully Ekholm can create a stable pair with Bouch
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Selling high for the Oilers is not having to give up a pick or getting more than a longshot Finnish prospect back. I agree with what you're saying.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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