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Login To Make Your Prediction2022-23 Regular Season| Tuesday, February 7, 2023 | Edmonton 5 @ Detroit 2 | Win | | Wednesday, February 15, 2023 | Detroit 5 @ Edmonton 4 (OT) (SO) | Loss |
Home Record: 0-0-1 Road Record: 1-0-0 Overall Record: 1-0-1
Home / Road Goals For: 4/5 Total: 9
Home / Road Goals Against: 5/2 Total: 72021-22 Regular Season| Tuesday, November 9, 2021 | Edmonton 2 @ Detroit 4 | Loss | | Tuesday, March 15, 2022 | Detroit 5 @ Edmonton 7 | Win |
Home Record: 1-0-0 Road Record: 0-1-0 Overall Record: 1-1-0
Home / Road Goals For: 7/2 Total: 9
Home / Road Goals Against: 5/4 Total: 9 |
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tardigrade81
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Finally. Oilers hockey is back
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Adam
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Location: Edmonton, AB
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| tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 06:01 |
Finally. Oilers hockey is back
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I wonder what the longest stretch between games in-season has been for the Oilers. This has to be pretty close, eh?
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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CrusaderPi
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Location: AB Highway 100
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| Adam wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 09:19 |
| tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 06:01 |
Finally. Oilers hockey is back
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I wonder what the longest stretch between games in-season has been for the Oilers. This has to be pretty close, eh?
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In non-Olympic / non-Covid years? This is pretty normal now. They had a break from Jan 22 to Feb 2 in 2018-19 (lost both).
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 09:26 |
| Adam wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 09:19 |
| tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 06:01 |
Finally. Oilers hockey is back
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I wonder what the longest stretch between games in-season has been for the Oilers. This has to be pretty close, eh?
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In non-Olympic / non-Covid years? This is pretty normal now. They had a break from Jan 22 to Feb 2 in 2018-19 (lost both).
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What was that break for? I remember they had a stretch where the whole league got covid a couple years back and that caused a bit of a break.
And I forgot about Olympic years - probably because there's enough going on not to miss it. This was a bit weird because it just felt like there was nothing happening.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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CrusaderPi
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Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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| Adam wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 09:59 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 09:26 |
| Adam wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 09:19 |
| tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 06:01 |
Finally. Oilers hockey is back
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I wonder what the longest stretch between games in-season has been for the Oilers. This has to be pretty close, eh?
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In non-Olympic / non-Covid years? This is pretty normal now. They had a break from Jan 22 to Feb 2 in 2018-19 (lost both).
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What was that break for? I remember they had a stretch where the whole league got covid a couple years back and that caused a bit of a break.
And I forgot about Olympic years - probably because there's enough going on not to miss it. This was a bit weird because it just felt like there was nothing happening.
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I think the league and union agreed to a creating bye weeks around the allstar game about a decade ago when they did the CBA. So I checked now that we're testing premises
2011-12 break from Jan 24 to Jan 31
2012-13 no break due to the stupid lockout
2013-14 break from Feb 7 to Feb 27 (olympics)
2014-15 break from Jan 20 to Jan 27
2015-16 break from Jan 23 to Feb 2
2016-17 break from Jan 26 to Jan 31
2017-18 break from Jan 25 to Feb 1
2018-19 break from Jan 22 to Feb 2
2019-20 break from Jan 18 to Jan 29
2020-21 stupid covid
2021-22 stupid covid
2022-23 break from Jan 28 to Feb 7
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Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 10:13 |
| Adam wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 09:59 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 09:26 |
| Adam wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 09:19 |
| tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 06:01 |
Finally. Oilers hockey is back
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I wonder what the longest stretch between games in-season has been for the Oilers. This has to be pretty close, eh?
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In non-Olympic / non-Covid years? This is pretty normal now. They had a break from Jan 22 to Feb 2 in 2018-19 (lost both).
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What was that break for? I remember they had a stretch where the whole league got covid a couple years back and that caused a bit of a break.
And I forgot about Olympic years - probably because there's enough going on not to miss it. This was a bit weird because it just felt like there was nothing happening.
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I think the league and union agreed to a creating bye weeks around the allstar game about a decade ago when they did the CBA. So I checked now that we're testing premises
2011-12 break from Jan 24 to Jan 31
2012-13 no break due to the stupid lockout
2013-14 break from Feb 7 to Feb 27 (olympics)
2014-15 break from Jan 20 to Jan 27
2015-16 break from Jan 23 to Feb 2
2016-17 break from Jan 26 to Jan 31
2017-18 break from Jan 25 to Feb 1
2018-19 break from Jan 22 to Feb 2
2019-20 break from Jan 18 to Jan 29
2020-21 stupid covid
2021-22 stupid covid
2022-23 break from Jan 28 to Feb 7
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Interesting. So it's a bit on the long side maybe at 10 days off, but not way different than other years. Same length as in 2015-16, and shorter than an Olympic break.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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inverno76
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I watched a few bits and pieces of games last night and there was some entertaining hockey. Here's is hoping the boys do not have a holiday hangover and come out firing.
Mustiness never ends at this time of year.
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Oscargasm
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Registered: May 2009
Location: YEG
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Welcome back to OMWH! Let’s go Oily boooiis
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Survivor CHAMP S52 | S66
OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
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Category 2 - Moderately Musty
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Category 4 - Severely Musty
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tardigrade81
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Registered: November 2022
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
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Let’s hope the break didn’t rust us up too much
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 NetBOG
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Registered: January 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
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Oilers only have 1 less regulation loss than the Wings but 7 more wins. Wings feasting on Bettman points. May not be as mediocre as advertised. Better not start slow.
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RDOilerfan
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| NetBOG wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 10:50 |
Oilers only have 1 less regulation loss than the Wings but 7 more wins. Wings feasting on Bettman points. May not be as mediocre as advertised. Better not start slow.
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I can't stand the Bettman point. You are literally rewarding teams for losing the game and devaluing teams winning in regulation. The difference between a team wining a game outright in regulation or a team losing in OT is 1 pt. That makes no sense. It just keeps mediocre to bad teams in the race.
The real record of the Wings is 21-27. So 5 games under .500. It's even worse for the Flames who have lost 10 games in OT. The Oilers true win/loss record is 26-22. 6 games over .500, the Flames is 24-26, 3 games under yet they trail the Oilers by 2 points.
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CrusaderPi
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Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 10:58 |
| NetBOG wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 10:50 |
Oilers only have 1 less regulation loss than the Wings but 7 more wins. Wings feasting on Bettman points. May not be as mediocre as advertised. Better not start slow.
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I can't stand the Bettman point. You are literally rewarding teams for losing the game and devaluing teams winning in regulation. The difference between a team wining a game outright in regulation or a team losing in OT is 1 pt. That makes no sense. It just keeps mediocre to bad teams in the race.
The real record of the Wings is 21-27. So 5 games under .500. It's even worse for the Flames who have lost 10 games in OT. The Oilers true win/loss record is 26-22. 6 games over .500, the Flames is 24-26, 3 games under yet they trail the Oilers by 2 points.
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Well, that's how it manifests. The Bettman point was actually conceived as a bonus point for winning in overtime to encourage offense instead of playing for a tie rather than a bonus point for losing. I don't hate the change because the dead puck late 90s era was so bad. No one scored. No one shot. No one did anything. I do think 3-2-1-0 is an obvious solution.
In any event the record is the record and Detroit is only 7 points out of the playoffs so they have something to play for still. Even though their point differential isn't good and passing 6 teams is unlikely.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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RDOilerfan
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Registered: January 2016
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I would like to see a premium put on winning in OT. 3 for regulation, 2 for OT or SO, 1 if you want to give out loser points. Right now mediocre teams play for getting it to OT to get that point then cross their fingers they get the extra point. Plus I think it gives some fans a false sense of where their team is actually at.
Regardless, it's an important game for the Oilers. They need to win this game. They have 11 games this month with 7 of them being against lower end teams. They need to win them all in my opinion and it starts tonight. If McD and the boys are serious about going after the division, this is the time to step on the gas.
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CrusaderPi
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Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 11:17 |
I would like to see a premium put on winning in OT. 3 for regulation, 2 for OT or SO, 1 if you want to give out loser points. Right now mediocre teams play for getting it to OT to get that point then cross their fingers they get the extra point. Plus I think it gives some fans a false sense of where their team is actually at.
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That's a feature of the program, not a bug. The NHL wants teams and fans to stay in the race for as long as possible. There are still 30 games left in the season so propping up ticket sales and TV views for the 4 teams that look like they have a shot, but don't, really helps with revenue.
I agree it's shortsighted and bad for hockey, but the NHL long ago stopped being about hockey.
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Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 11:21 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 11:17 |
I would like to see a premium put on winning in OT. 3 for regulation, 2 for OT or SO, 1 if you want to give out loser points. Right now mediocre teams play for getting it to OT to get that point then cross their fingers they get the extra point. Plus I think it gives some fans a false sense of where their team is actually at.
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That's a feature of the program, not a bug. The NHL wants teams and fans to stay in the race for as long as possible. There are still 30 games left in the season so propping up ticket sales and TV views for the 4 teams that look like they have a shot, but don't, really helps with revenue.
I agree it's shortsighted and bad for hockey, but the NHL long ago stopped being about hockey.
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Absolutely - the bonus point works exactly as the league wishes it to - they want the APPEARANCE of close playoff races, even if in actuality the same bonus points can make it harder to pass teams down the stretch when the teams you're chasing can squeeze three points out of a two-point game.
Detroit is -15 already on the season and on pace to finish the season at -40. They're dead in the water already for all intents and purposes, but maybe there will be a few Detroit fans who'll THINK that they still have a chance and buy some walk-up tickets to games for the next 6 weeks...
Another minnow, so the Oilers need to just go about their business and blow them out of the water.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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Dragon_Matt
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Registered: January 2009
Location: edmonton
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I'm not researching... does anyone want to find out how teh standings would line up if they had 3-2-1 this year??
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CrusaderPi
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Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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Fun! A short lunch time excel challenge.
PPP is 3-2-1-0 points
PTS is 2-2-1-0 points
Order is current NHL wildcard standings
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Bos 34 5 5 7 117 83
2 Tor 26 5 8 13 96 70
3 Tam 26 6 1 16 91 65
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Car 24 10 8 9 100 76
2 New 24 9 4 13 94 70
3 NYR 22 6 8 14 86 64
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Was 21 6 6 20 81 60
2 Pit 20 4 9 16 77 57
3 NYI 22 4 5 22 79 57
4 Buf 19 7 4 20 75 56
5 Flo 23 2 6 22 79 56
6 Ott 19 5 3 23 70 51
7 Phi 20 1 9 22 71 51
8 Det 16 5 8 19 66 50
9 Mon 12 8 4 27 56 44
10 CBJ 10 5 4 32 44 34
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Dal 25 4 10 13 93 68
2 Win 25 7 1 19 90 65
3 Min 20 7 4 18 78 58
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Sea 24 5 5 15 87 63
2 Los 20 8 7 18 83 63
3 Veg 21 8 4 18 83 62
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Edm 26 2 4 18 86 60
2 Cal 20 4 10 17 78 58
3 Col 18 9 3 18 75 57
4 Nas 19 5 6 18 73 54
5 StL 16 7 3 25 65 49
6 Van 13 7 4 26 57 44
7 San 12 3 11 25 53 41
8 Ari 14 3 6 28 54 40
9 Ana 7 9 6 29 45 38
10 Chi 11 4 4 29 45 34
*updated to be correct - Thanks Adrean.
[Updated on: Tue, 07 February 2023 14:45]
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CrusaderPi
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So it looks like Pittsburgh drops to the bottom of the eastern wildcard race from WC2 to WC5. Calgary goes from WC2 to WC3. Arizona and San Jose flip. Not a lot of change. Tampa and Winnipeg only going to 2 and 1 OT game respectively is kind of interesting.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Adam
Messages: 7174
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 13:09 |
So it looks like Pittsburgh drops to the bottom of the eastern wildcard race from WC2 to WC5. Calgary goes from WC2 to WC3. Arizona and San Jose flip. Not a lot of change. Tampa and Winnipeg only going to 2 and 1 OT game respectively is kind of interesting.
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I imagine the fact that there isn't a lot of positions shifted is what the NHL presents to teams when people complain about this format. They can point out that your chances of missing out on the playoffs because of this are slim, and probably equal to your chances of someone else nipping you with a format change, so why change, especially since we may be able to sell more tickets for longer for teams who drop out of the race...
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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CrusaderPi
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Location: AB Highway 100
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| Adam wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 13:20 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 13:09 |
So it looks like Pittsburgh drops to the bottom of the eastern wildcard race from WC2 to WC5. Calgary goes from WC2 to WC3. Arizona and San Jose flip. Not a lot of change. Tampa and Winnipeg only going to 2 and 1 OT game respectively is kind of interesting.
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I imagine the fact that there isn't a lot of positions shifted is what the NHL presents to teams when people complain about this format. They can point out that your chances of missing out on the playoffs because of this are slim, and probably equal to your chances of someone else nipping you with a format change, so why change, especially since we may be able to sell more tickets for longer for teams who drop out of the race...
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The only argument that might hold water is the 3 points would make regulation a little more interesting? But then you get less made-for-TV overtime drama. I'd probably try it with the AHL just to see if anything interesting happens, but I can't see anything changing.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Adam
Messages: 7174
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 13:25 |
| Adam wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 13:20 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 13:09 |
So it looks like Pittsburgh drops to the bottom of the eastern wildcard race from WC2 to WC5. Calgary goes from WC2 to WC3. Arizona and San Jose flip. Not a lot of change. Tampa and Winnipeg only going to 2 and 1 OT game respectively is kind of interesting.
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I imagine the fact that there isn't a lot of positions shifted is what the NHL presents to teams when people complain about this format. They can point out that your chances of missing out on the playoffs because of this are slim, and probably equal to your chances of someone else nipping you with a format change, so why change, especially since we may be able to sell more tickets for longer for teams who drop out of the race...
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The only argument that might hold water is the 3 points would make regulation a little more interesting? But then you get less made-for-TV overtime drama. I'd probably try it with the AHL just to see if anything interesting happens, but I can't see anything changing.
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I think the argument would be that teams chasing in the standings will push harder for the extra point and so you wouldn't have a period at the end of games where teams stalemate to the finish. I remember feeling like it was McLellan's whole strategy when he was here to just secure every single point he could and worry about the extra point afterwards. Extremely passive push if we were tied in the third period during that era.
One thing that surprised me is seeing the Oilers 0-4 beyond regulation this year. I've come to think of McDavid/Draisaitl in OT as nigh unstoppable but it hasn't played out that way at all.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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NetBOG
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| Adam wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 13:29 |
One thing that surprised me is seeing the Oilers 0-4 beyond regulation this year. I've come to think of McDavid/Draisaitl in OT as nigh unstoppable but it hasn't played out that way at all.
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They are 2-4 in OT/SO. Beat Vegas and Florida in OT. 2-3 in OT and 0-1 in SO.
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Dragon_Matt
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Location: edmonton
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Something else the NHL loves to do? Promote when someone sets a new record. with 3 points for a win, imagine the hype around the 'highest scoring team ever'
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nullterm
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Coming off an extended break with the joy of three guys being All Stars, well rested, in a good place standing wise…
Against a team that is definitively in bottom feeder mode…
And it’s the Oilers…
Guaranteed loss 
This team can be amazing, but it can also be infuriatingly predictable in when it takes the foot off the gas.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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nullterm
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| nullterm wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 14:52 |
Coming off an extended break with the joy of three guys being All Stars, well rested, in a good place standing wise…
Against a team that is definitively in bottom feeder mode…
And it’s the Oilers…
Guaranteed loss
This team can be amazing, but it can also be infuriatingly predictable in when it takes the foot off the gas.
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Thankfully proven wrong, but felt like it could have easily gone the wrong direction if the bottom “six”/five(?) didn’t get things going
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Adrean
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Location: Calgary (for work, not th...
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 13:04 |
Fun! A short lunch time excel challenge.
PPP is 3-2-1-0 points
PTS is 2-2-1-0 points
Order is current NHL wildcard standings
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Bos 37 2 5 2 122 83
2 Tor 31 0 8 5 101 70
3 Tam 31 1 1 15 97 65
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Car 31 3 8 1 110 76
2 New 32 1 4 9 103 70
3 NYR 26 2 8 6 92 64
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Was 26 1 6 14 87 60
2 Pit 23 1 9 7 81 57
3 NYI 26 0 5 17 83 57
4 Buf 25 1 4 16 82 56
5 Flo 24 1 6 16 81 56
6 Ott 23 1 3 20 75 51
7 Phi 21 0 9 13 72 51
8 Det 20 1 8 11 71 50
9 Mon 16 4 4 23 64 44
10 CBJ 14 1 4 28 49 34
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Dal 27 2 10 3 97 68
2 Win 32 0 1 18 97 65
3 Min 23 4 4 14 85 58
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Sea 29 0 5 10 92 63
2 Los 24 4 7 11 91 63
3 Veg 26 3 4 14 91 62
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Edm 28 0 4 14 88 60
2 Cal 23 1 10 7 82 58
3 Col 23 4 3 15 84 57
4 Nas 22 2 6 12 78 54
5 StL 20 3 3 22 72 49
6 Van 17 3 4 22 64 44
7 San 14 1 11 14 56 41
8 Ari 15 2 6 22 57 40
9 Ana 13 3 6 23 54 38
10 Chi 15 0 4 25 49 34
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I thought the 3 points was for winning in regulation? You appear to be applying it to OT wins as well. The Oilers (for instance) should be 26-2-4-14. The Jets should be 25-7-1-19 (90 instead of 97)
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CrusaderPi
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Location: AB Highway 100
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| Adrean wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 13:42 |
I thought the 3 points was for winning in regulation? You appear to be applying it to OT wins as well. The Oilers (for instance) should be 26-2-4-14. The Jets should be 25-7-1-19 (90 instead of 97)
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DAMMIT! What a stupid mistake. Good thing I left the spreadsheet open and make a quick correction.
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Bos 34 5 5 7 117 83
2 Tor 26 5 8 13 96 70
3 Tam 26 6 1 16 91 65
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Car 24 10 8 9 100 76
2 New 24 9 4 13 94 70
3 NYR 22 6 8 14 86 64
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Was 21 6 6 20 81 60
2 Pit 20 4 9 16 77 57
3 NYI 22 4 5 22 79 57
4 Buf 19 7 4 20 75 56
5 Flo 23 2 6 22 79 56
6 Ott 19 5 3 23 70 51
7 Phi 20 1 9 22 71 51
8 Det 16 5 8 19 66 50
9 Mon 12 8 4 27 56 44
10 CBJ 10 5 4 32 44 34
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Dal 25 4 10 13 93 68
2 Win 25 7 1 19 90 65
3 Min 20 7 4 18 78 58
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Sea 24 5 5 15 87 63
2 Los 20 8 7 18 83 63
3 Veg 21 8 4 18 83 62
Team WW W LL L PPP PTS
1 Edm 26 2 4 18 86 60
2 Cal 20 4 10 17 78 58
3 Col 18 9 3 18 75 57
4 Nas 19 5 6 18 73 54
5 StL 16 7 3 25 65 49
6 Van 13 7 4 26 57 44
7 San 12 3 11 25 53 41
8 Ari 14 3 6 28 54 40
9 Ana 7 9 6 29 45 38
10 Chi 11 4 4 29 45 34
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CrusaderPi
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Far more and bigger changes now that it's been done correctly. Including the Oilers moving up to second in the division.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Adam
Messages: 7174
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Location: Edmonton, AB
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 14:01 |
Far more and bigger changes now that it's been done correctly. Including the Oilers moving up to second in the division.
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Looks like you still posted the old version though?
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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CrusaderPi
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| Adam wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 14:27 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 14:01 |
Far more and bigger changes now that it's been done correctly. Including the Oilers moving up to second in the division.
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Looks like you still posted the old version though?
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I changed out my original post too.
Ugh. I confused ROW and R, which screwed up L and OTL. NZ should have posted their's. Sorry gang.
[Updated on: Tue, 07 February 2023 14:47]
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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NZ Oiler Fan
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edit: Dammit Pi! Beat me to it
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CrusaderPi
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| NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 13:18 |
edit: Dammit Pi! Beat me to it
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One of the best qualities of this place. It's a race to provide content.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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AndersonRules
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 10:58 |
| NetBOG wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 10:50 |
Oilers only have 1 less regulation loss than the Wings but 7 more wins. Wings feasting on Bettman points. May not be as mediocre as advertised. Better not start slow.
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I can't stand the Bettman point. You are literally rewarding teams for losing the game and devaluing teams winning in regulation. The difference between a team wining a game outright in regulation or a team losing in OT is 1 pt. That makes no sense. It just keeps mediocre to bad teams in the race.
The real record of the Wings is 21-27. So 5 games under .500. It's even worse for the Flames who have lost 10 games in OT. The Oilers true win/loss record is 26-22. 6 games over .500, the Flames is 24-26, 3 games under yet they trail the Oilers by 2 points.
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Your overall point is exactly right, and I agree … but your math is off!
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K.McC#24
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Big push early to scoreboard advantage, don't let up.
No letdowns, late arrivals down the stretch for this club. If you get beat by the other team's best play, so be it, but don't be beaten for an early no show. That kind of play should be in this team's rearview....again.
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tardigrade81
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| K.McC#24 wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 21:46 |
Big push early to scoreboard advantage, don't let up.
No letdowns, late arrivals down the stretch for this club. If you get beat by the other team's best play, so be it, but don't be beaten for an early no show. That kind of play should be in this team's rearview....again.
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This. Important to get off to an early lead. Detroit is getting better and better each year. They will give us a good game. Need to come out of this break on fire
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Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 17:09 |
| K.McC#24 wrote on Tue, 07 February 2023 21:46 |
Big push early to scoreboard advantage, don't let up.
No letdowns, late arrivals down the stretch for this club. If you get beat by the other team's best play, so be it, but don't be beaten for an early no show. That kind of play should be in this team's rearview....again.
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This. Important to get off to an early lead. Detroit is getting better and better each year. They will give us a good game. Need to come out of this break on fire
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Are they? They still look like trash to me. Larkin having a great year but he's a UFA. If he goes, what do they have left?
I think it's showing that Yzerman was surrounded by a lot of really sharp people in Tampa. In Detroit, given a freer hand, he's just surrounded himself with a bunch of other old hockey players with predictable results. He's made some terrible signings - Suter and Sundqvist got flagged in the UFA discussion but look at Andrew Copp with the long long deal and a career high of 53 points! He's 6th on the team in scoring with just 26 points this year after Yzerman bit hard on a good season. Ben Chiarot is their most expensive defenceman. They have a good one in Seider, who is still on his rookie deal, but outside of that? That blueline is WEAK.
Vrana is buried in the minors, because of some addiction issues? I'm not sure what that does for anyone. They should just find him a new home if they're going to punish him - the guy went and got help, after all.
It will be interesting to see what they do in the next month here. They have several unrestricted free agents besides Larkin, including Bertuzzi, Suter, and Maata. They're also bad and I don't think this team has the pieces on it to be much better next year. If I'm in Yzerman's shoes, I start selling immediately and just load up on prospects and picks. And fire all my old hockey buddies and try to find people who understand how to find value players and improve that team.
Although all that said, I have to give Yzerman credit - he has still fleeced Ken Holland a couple of times.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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