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Home / Road Goals For: 2/4 Total: 6
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 Re: Pregame: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #26) [message #814918 is a reply to message #814917 ]
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 Re: Pregame: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #26) [message #814919 is a reply to message #814918 ]
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Anyone hear if Yamo is playing? I saw he was playing up in practice.



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 Re: Pregame: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #26) [message #814920 is a reply to message #814919 ]
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Kailer Yamamoto ready to go for tonight.



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 Re: Pregame: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #26) [message #814922 is a reply to message #814920 ]
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Adrean wrote on Mon, 05 December 2022 10:21

It's looking good
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Tom Gazzola
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Kailer Yamamoto ready to go for tonight.


I assume since Yamo is finally ready to go, that means Hyman who got drilled into the boards and was cut even thought he played over 21 mins, will be too sore to go. Just how things are going this year.



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 Re: Pregame: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #26) [message #814924 is a reply to message #814922 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 05 December 2022 09:34

Adrean wrote on Mon, 05 December 2022 10:21

It's looking good
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Tom Gazzola
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Kailer Yamamoto ready to go for tonight.


I assume since Yamo is finally ready to go, that means Hyman who got drilled into the boards and was cut even thought he played over 21 mins, will be too sore to go. Just how things are going this year.


Eh, our best two players have been healthy all year. Good teams have to overcome injuries. Bruins have lost only 3 games despite missing McAvoy and Marchand for half of their season.



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 Re: Pregame: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #26) [message #814925 is a reply to message #814924 ]
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smyth260 wrote on Mon, 05 December 2022 13:07

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 05 December 2022 09:34

Adrean wrote on Mon, 05 December 2022 10:21

It's looking good
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Tom Gazzola
@TomGazzola
Kailer Yamamoto ready to go for tonight.


I assume since Yamo is finally ready to go, that means Hyman who got drilled into the boards and was cut even thought he played over 21 mins, will be too sore to go. Just how things are going this year.


Eh, our best two players have been healthy all year. Good teams have to overcome injuries. Bruins have lost only 3 games despite missing McAvoy and Marchand for half of their season.

Marchand missed 8 games.

I don't follow the Bruins but I don't think they have been missing 4 of their top 9 forwards all at once.
Yamo was banged up out of camp and has missed 12 games.
Kane has missed 11 and counting.
Foegele has missed 5 and counting.
McLeod has missed 4 and counting.

Bruins missed 1 guy, not 4. Injuries happen, teams have to deal with it but missing that many guys out of your top 9 is pretty tough and the Oilers have hung in there.



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 Re: Pregame: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #26) [message #814927 is a reply to message #814925 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 05 December 2022 13:22

smyth260 wrote on Mon, 05 December 2022 13:07

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 05 December 2022 09:34

Adrean wrote on Mon, 05 December 2022 10:21

It's looking good
Quote:

Tom Gazzola
@TomGazzola
Kailer Yamamoto ready to go for tonight.


I assume since Yamo is finally ready to go, that means Hyman who got drilled into the boards and was cut even thought he played over 21 mins, will be too sore to go. Just how things are going this year.


Eh, our best two players have been healthy all year. Good teams have to overcome injuries. Bruins have lost only 3 games despite missing McAvoy and Marchand for half of their season.

Marchand missed 8 games.

I don't follow the Bruins but I don't think they have been missing 4 of their top 9 forwards all at once.
Yamo was banged up out of camp and has missed 12 games.
Kane has missed 11 and counting.
Foegele has missed 5 and counting.
McLeod has missed 4 and counting.

Bruins missed 1 guy, not 4. Injuries happen, teams have to deal with it but missing that many guys out of your top 9 is pretty tough and the Oilers have hung in there.


McAvoy, who scored 56 points from the blueline last year, has missed 13 of the Bruins 23 games. That's a more significant loss than any of ours. I'd argue that 8 games of an 80-point player in Marchand is also a more critical loss than maybe all four of those guys you mention.

The point is correct - good teams adapt and deal with injuries. Those guys only account for 11 of the Oilers goals on the entire year (Kane 5, McLeod & Foegele 3, Yamamoto 0) so while they leave a hole, it's not like they were filling the net or a real key to the success we've had in portions of this season.

The team still seems to entirely rely on McDavid and Draisaitl to win games for them. It's frustrating. I was pretty impressed by some of the things I saw out of Woodcroft last year, but he seems to be retreating to his inner McLellan or Tippett. He's struggled to adapt, and he's been stubborn at times refusing to make changes. He's got to be better. I think he's having Campbell-level struggles.



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 Re: Pregame: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #26) [message #814929 is a reply to message #814925 ]
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Yeah and what about the Bruins best defenseman only playing 10 of their games thus far. They still managed to win the most games without him. Take a look at the Avs injury list if you really want to see a team with the injury bug.

Oilers have both goalies, 5 of their top 6 forwards, and virtually all of their defenseman available. There's no injury excuses for this team. Every team has to deal with losing guys in a physical sport.



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 Re: Pregame: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #26) [message #814930 is a reply to message #814929 ]
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smyth260 wrote on Mon, 05 December 2022 13:34

Yeah and what about the Bruins best defenseman only playing 10 of their games thus far. They still managed to win the most games without him. Take a look at the Avs injury list if you really want to see a team with the injury bug.

Oilers have both goalies, 5 of their top 6 forwards, and virtually all of their defenseman available. There's no injury excuses for this team. Every team has to deal with losing guys in a physical sport.


This made me curious, so I went googling to find out which teams had the most games lost to injury, and found this cool site:
https://nhlinjuryviz.blogspot.com/2022/10/202223-team-injury -breakdowns.html

Includes the cap hit in the chart showing most time lost, which is a cool idea, but also a bit flawed. If you click on Full Injury Listing at the top, it breaks down the calculation for each team.

Any way you look at it, the Oilers having lost 32 games to injury (as of Dec. 1 and not including Tyler Benson), is pretty minimal.



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 Re: Pregame: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #26) [message #814931 is a reply to message #814925 ]
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Leafs have been missing near all their D, Avs have been missing a crap load, injuries happen. Loser mentality to blame injuries. Good teams prevail.


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 Re: Pregame: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #26) [message #814926 is a reply to message #814924 ]
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smyth260 wrote on Mon, 05 December 2022 13:07

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 05 December 2022 09:34

Adrean wrote on Mon, 05 December 2022 10:21

It's looking good
Quote:

Tom Gazzola
@TomGazzola
Kailer Yamamoto ready to go for tonight.


I assume since Yamo is finally ready to go, that means Hyman who got drilled into the boards and was cut even thought he played over 21 mins, will be too sore to go. Just how things are going this year.


Eh, our best two players have been healthy all year. Good teams have to overcome injuries. Bruins have lost only 3 games despite missing McAvoy and Marchand for half of their season.

Oh man. Imagine if THAT happened.



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 Re: Pregame: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #26) [message #814921 is a reply to message #814917 ]
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 Re: Pregame: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #26) [message #814923 is a reply to message #814921 ]
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I am looking for Skinner to have a better game compared to his game in Washington giving up 5 goals. I also thought his game against the Habs was OK but not great. I didn't love the rebound he gave up on the second goal. I am not a goalie but I am pretty sure you aren't supposed to leave it right in the slot like that if you are controlling rebounds properly. I didn't love the 3rd goal either. 5 on 3 PP but it wasn't him and Ovie or Weber teeing it up on a one timer. This was a rookie dman who got the puck dusted it off and gave Skinner time to be set and see it and he just beat him flat out with a wrister.

On par with the goaltending in November mostly with Skinner. It's been not bad but not great.



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 Re: Pregame: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #26) [message #814928 is a reply to message #814917 ]
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