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This is such a classic, and predictable, Oilers fan thread/topic. After a few games our fan base loves to go off a weird cliff and blame the wrong things

I think almost all of us thought Nurses contract wasn't great. The fact is that the market for Dmen was set and the team had a choice to pay that market rate or trade Nurse. A few responses from quotes in this thread;

"9.25 mill of cap space on one of thr worst dman in the league"
The amount of hyperbole here is silly. Nurse isn't winning a Norris anytime soon but is the best defencemen on the Oilers, forget about worst in the league. Even if you think Ceci or Bouchard is better than Nurse it is still a ridiculous stance.

"Canadian Division covid crap, is the only time Nurse looked top 4"
Completely wrong by any measure. To suggest he is a bottom pairing guy is laughable.

"Nurse is he isn't a top shutdown D-man "
- A top shutdown D, maybe not but he isnt bad at it. For the most part the team is better when he is on the ice and one of the few Oilers defenceman in the last decade or so that doesn't scare me when I see him lined up in our own zone.

"(way too many turn overs, bad defensive decisions)"
- I think this is the same as people that criticize Drai turnovers. High skill players try things others wont and high minute players make more plays per game overall. This will lead to more turnovers and that is the risk/reward for this type of player

".. and he isn't great offensively "
- Nurse was 44th in D scoring last year. I suppose you used the term great but 44th puts him in pretty decent company.

"I'd challenge anyone to find a worst value contact in the league."
This has been addressed enough, but again, just completely wrong.

And finally, the coup de grace;
"The 9 mill is why we are icing a team short a fwd,"
- there is a series of overpays, buyouts and mistakes that lead to this issue. It is also a byproduct of having elite players making elite money.

"may be a reason why 97 and 29 both won't be here in the future."
- hahahahaha

"That 9 million is a franchise crippling contact."
- not a good contract, none seem to dispute that, but this is again hyperbolic to the point of parody.

"I can't remember a d that stands out for his poor decisions as much as Nurse."
- Right now, Murray and Kulak, stand out
- recently, Russell
- you need to watch teams other than the Oilers or get your memory checked. There are a LOT of way worse, poor decision making D around the league.
This is why the rate has jumped so quickly in recent years.


Lastly, let's just say this was his ask and the Oilers simply walked away, or traded him for futures, pre signing.
How would you go about a D group that has been constantly somewhere between bottom 3rd in the league at best to god awful at worst, for over a decade?
If you take Nurse off this team without replacing him with a equal or upgraded player the Oilers are proper F'd.




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