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 nullterm
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Edmonton Oilers @EdmontonOilers · 18m
#Oilers legend & @HockeyHallFame
inductee Kevin Lowe is retiring from his role as Vice Chair & Alternate Governor of the hockey club. Moving forward, he will stay connected to the organization & community as an ambassador. Thank you, Kevin!
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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CrudeRemarks
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We did it! We survived the Kevin Lowe era!
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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smyth260
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We will win the Stanley Cup now right?
Clean house or bust
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Gator21
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Good riddance!!
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Kr55
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| nullterm wrote on Tue, 02 August 2022 12:07 |
Edmonton Oilers @EdmontonOilers · 18m
#Oilers legend & @HockeyHallFame
inductee Kevin Lowe is retiring from his role as Vice Chair & Alternate Governor of the hockey club. Moving forward, he will stay connected to the organization & community as an ambassador. Thank you, Kevin!
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For real though, that's a lot of winning leaving the org. Next season is gonna be bad.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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CrusaderPi
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I'm not sure I believe he's gone and retired until I see it, but positive news.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Dragon_Matt
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well, he's gone for now. people come out of retirement all the time. Maybe his next position will be defensive coordinator for the Oilers.
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CrusaderPi
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| Dragon_Matt wrote on Tue, 02 August 2022 13:04 |
well, he's gone for now. people come out of retirement all the time. Maybe his next position will be defensive coordinator for the Oilers.
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Special business and defense advisor to Mr. Katz and alternate alternate governor.
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Rocksteady
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The bastard finally quit.
I thought the world would long die before Lowe would leave.
...but is he really ever gone? (Think "what about Bob")
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The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.
Generally Disappointed.
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Dragon_Matt
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perhaps 'Lowe's Retirement' is just a new version of 99 whisky
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Adam
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 02 August 2022 13:00 |
I'm not sure I believe he's gone and retired until I see it, but positive news.
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Dare I update the signature???
As much as this is less helpful than it would have been, say, 5-10 years ago, it is still good news. Kevin Lowe stood as a giant totem for failing up in the organization. No matter how badly he performed, he was given another promotion, another body in between him and accountability and a continued seat at the table.
The only issue I see here is that there isn't a capable person ready to step in to his spot. Bob Nicholson is even more of a disaster and severely tainted right now by the Team Canada stuff. Gretzky left last year for the TV gig. Ken Holland is also past due on retirement, and shouldn't be offered another role in the organization when he finally leaves the GM post.
I could see the role being well-suited for someone with more of a business/legal mindset, rather than simply a hockey one but there's no one obvious in the organization to step in to those shoes either.
Maybe we just bring back MacTavish and Howson...
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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smyth260
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It’s the year of much needed retirements.
Clean house or bust
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Leia
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| Adam wrote on Tue, 02 August 2022 13:59 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 02 August 2022 13:00 |
I'm not sure I believe he's gone and retired until I see it, but positive news.
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Dare I update the signature???
As much as this is less helpful than it would have been, say, 5-10 years ago, it is still good news. Kevin Lowe stood as a giant totem for failing up in the organization. No matter how badly he performed, he was given another promotion, another body in between him and accountability and a continued seat at the table.
The only issue I see here is that there isn't a capable person ready to step in to his spot. Bob Nicholson is even more of a disaster and severely tainted right now by the Team Canada stuff. Gretzky left last year for the TV gig. Ken Holland is also past due on retirement, and shouldn't be offered another role in the organization when he finally leaves the GM post.
I could see the role being well-suited for someone with more of a business/legal mindset, rather than simply a hockey one but there's no one obvious in the organization to step in to those shoes either.
Maybe we just bring back MacTavish and Howson...
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We'll promote Klefbom to fill his position, would that rid us of his salary?? If not Ryan Smyth, surely he and Horcroft are the next generation of the OB's to be brought back into the fold.
Take me home, country road
to the place where I belong
to Alberta, to see the Oilers
take me home, country road
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Dragon_Matt
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Klefbom isn't an 'old boy' it would have to be Smytty (if he counts) or Anderson. I think he may be the only old boy who never served a stint with the team post playing retirement.
Horcoff just took a new role of AGM for the Red Wings AHL team.
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Adam
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| Leia wrote on Tue, 02 August 2022 15:01 |
| Adam wrote on Tue, 02 August 2022 13:59 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 02 August 2022 13:00 |
I'm not sure I believe he's gone and retired until I see it, but positive news.
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Dare I update the signature???
As much as this is less helpful than it would have been, say, 5-10 years ago, it is still good news. Kevin Lowe stood as a giant totem for failing up in the organization. No matter how badly he performed, he was given another promotion, another body in between him and accountability and a continued seat at the table.
The only issue I see here is that there isn't a capable person ready to step in to his spot. Bob Nicholson is even more of a disaster and severely tainted right now by the Team Canada stuff. Gretzky left last year for the TV gig. Ken Holland is also past due on retirement, and shouldn't be offered another role in the organization when he finally leaves the GM post.
I could see the role being well-suited for someone with more of a business/legal mindset, rather than simply a hockey one but there's no one obvious in the organization to step in to those shoes either.
Maybe we just bring back MacTavish and Howson...
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We'll promote Klefbom to fill his position, would that rid us of his salary?? If not Ryan Smyth, surely he and Horcroft are the next generation of the OB's to be brought back into the fold.
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Duncan Keith should have played his cards better and held out for the Vice-Chair job as compensation for his early retirement.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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Rutuu
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Hold off on the update till we go a full season without him in the owners box ...but it's still a day to celebrate.
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 02 August 2022 13:05 |
| Dragon_Matt wrote on Tue, 02 August 2022 13:04 |
well, he's gone for now. people come out of retirement all the time. Maybe his next position will be defensive coordinator for the Oilers.
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Special business and defense advisor to Mr. Katz and alternate alternate governor.
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Golf tourney host & luncheon MC.
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CrusaderPi
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| Suomalainen wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 08:40 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 02 August 2022 13:05 |
| Dragon_Matt wrote on Tue, 02 August 2022 13:04 |
well, he's gone for now. people come out of retirement all the time. Maybe his next position will be defensive coordinator for the Oilers.
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Special business and defense advisor to Mr. Katz and alternate alternate governor.
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Golf tourney host & luncheon MC.
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This is what alumni who have no business running hockey teams should be doing. 20 years too late.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Kr55
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No way this is related to the Hockey Canada poop show? I imagine Bobby Nicks would be stepping aside soon too if there was spreading fallout behind the scenes.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Adam
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 08:44 |
| Suomalainen wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 08:40 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 02 August 2022 13:05 |
| Dragon_Matt wrote on Tue, 02 August 2022 13:04 |
well, he's gone for now. people come out of retirement all the time. Maybe his next position will be defensive coordinator for the Oilers.
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Special business and defense advisor to Mr. Katz and alternate alternate governor.
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Golf tourney host & luncheon MC.
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This is what alumni who have no business running hockey teams should be doing. 20 years too late.
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I'm just waiting to hear that he still sits in meetings, and of course they all listen to him because why wouldn't you listen to a guy with that much experience, but he has no official role with the organization other than that they still pay him and let him direct things.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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inverno76
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 08:59 |
No way this is related to the Hockey Canada poop show? I imagine Bobby Nicks would be stepping aside soon too if there was spreading fallout behind the scenes.
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That is where my brain went to instantly. He has been an executive director for Hockey Canada since 2000.Wondering how many fat cats disappear in the near future.
I wish Lowe never entered the management group. I would have loved to remember him as the tough SOB he was on the ice. Great career, but a jackass of a manager who proved time and time again that people fail up.
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Adam
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| inverno76 wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 09:22 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 08:59 |
No way this is related to the Hockey Canada poop show? I imagine Bobby Nicks would be stepping aside soon too if there was spreading fallout behind the scenes.
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That is where my brain went to instantly. He has been an executive director for Hockey Canada since 2000.Wondering how many fat cats disappear in the near future.
I wish Lowe never entered the management group. I would have loved to remember him as the tough SOB he was on the ice. Great career, but a jackass of a manager who proved time and time again that people fail up.
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Agreed that it would have been better for his legacy if he hadn't been involved in team management.
With regards to Team Canada, I don't think it's related. There's been rumours of him stepping down for over a year. I think the Hall of Fame thing was important to him (even if he's a really weak inductee), and with that done, he's content to sail off in to the sunset.
With Team Canada, he just hasn't been as involved with that organization. He had his hands full elsewhere, and so while there was participation with management of Olympic teams and the like, it isn't like he was managing the World Juniors or anything.
Bob Nicholson is going to get stained badly by this - if it was anywhere but Edmonton where the media are all afraid of the team and owner they would already be harassing him for quotes - but Kevin Lowe isn't likely to have had any involvement in the rape fund scandal there.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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inverno76
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| Adam wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 09:59 |
| inverno76 wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 09:22 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 08:59 |
No way this is related to the Hockey Canada poop show? I imagine Bobby Nicks would be stepping aside soon too if there was spreading fallout behind the scenes.
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That is where my brain went to instantly. He has been an executive director for Hockey Canada since 2000.Wondering how many fat cats disappear in the near future.
I wish Lowe never entered the management group. I would have loved to remember him as the tough SOB he was on the ice. Great career, but a jackass of a manager who proved time and time again that people fail up.
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Agreed that it would have been better for his legacy if he hadn't been involved in team management.
With regards to Team Canada, I don't think it's related. There's been rumours of him stepping down for over a year. I think the Hall of Fame thing was important to him (even if he's a really weak inductee), and with that done, he's content to sail off in to the sunset.
With Team Canada, he just hasn't been as involved with that organization. He had his hands full elsewhere, and so while there was participation with management of Olympic teams and the like, it isn't like he was managing the World Juniors or anything.
Bob Nicholson is going to get stained badly by this - if it was anywhere but Edmonton where the media are all afraid of the team and owner they would already be harassing him for quotes - but Kevin Lowe isn't likely to have had any involvement in the rape fund scandal there.
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I hope you are right. It looks horrible on the organization to keep people employed who 'allegedly' knew about SA's, and not only ignored the problem, covered it up and prepared for future assaults.
There is no way Bob Nicholson does not have bloody hands. The OEG has to preparing for damage control. Burger Bob should save everyone the hassle and retire as well.
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CrudeRemarks
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| inverno76 wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 09:22 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 08:59 |
No way this is related to the Hockey Canada poop show? I imagine Bobby Nicks would be stepping aside soon too if there was spreading fallout behind the scenes.
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That is where my brain went to instantly. He has been an executive director for Hockey Canada since 2000.Wondering how many fat cats disappear in the near future.
I wish Lowe never entered the management group. I would have loved to remember him as the tough SOB he was on the ice. Great career, but a jackass of a manager who proved time and time again that people fail up.
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I have to disagree. The fact that he couldn’t skate backward would be a major drawback if he played the game in today’s era. The 80s were a different time.
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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| CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 12:33 |
| inverno76 wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 09:22 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 08:59 |
No way this is related to the Hockey Canada poop show? I imagine Bobby Nicks would be stepping aside soon too if there was spreading fallout behind the scenes.
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That is where my brain went to instantly. He has been an executive director for Hockey Canada since 2000.Wondering how many fat cats disappear in the near future.
I wish Lowe never entered the management group. I would have loved to remember him as the tough SOB he was on the ice. Great career, but a jackass of a manager who proved time and time again that people fail up.
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I have to disagree. The fact that he couldn’t skate backward would be a major drawback if he played the game in today’s era. The 80s were a different time.
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As much as I hate Lowe the manager, he was a tough shutdown defenceman with some offense. The cups got him into the HHOF. To say he couldn't skate backwards is a gross exaggeration, though.
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Dragon_Matt
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Everytime someone says he can't skate backwards, I picture Russell Crowe's skating in Mystery Alaska
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welcometotheOC
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| Dragon_Matt wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 14:28 |
Everytime someone says he can't skate backwards, I picture Russell Crowe's skating in Mystery Alaska
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I haven't seen it. It sounds like a very bad movie just from that info haha...
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Dragon_Matt
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Actually a pretty decent hockey movie. They just decided to cast a leading actor with no skating ability... it's mostly shoulders up when he's on screen.
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CrudeRemarks
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| welcometotheOC wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 13:54 |
| CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 12:33 |
| inverno76 wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 09:22 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 08:59 |
No way this is related to the Hockey Canada poop show? I imagine Bobby Nicks would be stepping aside soon too if there was spreading fallout behind the scenes.
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That is where my brain went to instantly. He has been an executive director for Hockey Canada since 2000.Wondering how many fat cats disappear in the near future.
I wish Lowe never entered the management group. I would have loved to remember him as the tough SOB he was on the ice. Great career, but a jackass of a manager who proved time and time again that people fail up.
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I have to disagree. The fact that he couldn’t skate backward would be a major drawback if he played the game in today’s era. The 80s were a different time.
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As much as I hate Lowe the manager, he was a tough shutdown defenceman with some offense. The cups got him into the HHOF. To say he couldn't skate backwards is a gross exaggeration, though.
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I've watched a lot of film and am 100% confident he could only skate forward. also had difficulty turning left, although he got better at that as his career progressed.
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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| CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 14:54 |
I've watched a lot of film and am 100% confident he could only skate forward. also had difficulty turning left, although he got better at that as his career progressed.
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Like Zoolander?
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CrudeRemarks
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| NetBOG wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 15:09 |
| CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 03 August 2022 14:54 |
I've watched a lot of film and am 100% confident he could only skate forward. also had difficulty turning left, although he got better at that as his career progressed.
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Like Zoolander?
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Precisely.
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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inverno76
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Lowe took a hard left from Rexall on Messier retirement night. Albeit, he was not wearing skates that night.
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CrudeRemarks
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https://www.nhl.com/oilers/team/front-office
Update that signature Adam. K-Lowe is off the website!
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nullterm
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It's pretty surreal knowing we're finally in an era where we've completely bounced the 80s alumni nepotism.
Dave Manson had 2.5 seasons with us on non Cup 90s teams, and came in as part of Woodcroft's staff... so I'm giving him a pass.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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smyth260
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I think Keith Gretzky counts too.
Clean house or bust
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| nullterm wrote on Thu, 04 August 2022 15:59 |
It's pretty surreal knowing we're finally in an era where we've completely bounced the 80s alumni nepotism.
Dave Manson had 2.5 seasons with us on non Cup 90s teams, and came in as part of Woodcroft's staff... so I'm giving him a pass.
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Yeah, I see Manson as more of a "hey, that's cool that he played for the Oilers and happens to work here now" as opposed to "hey, he played here so now he works here in management" kind of thing.
Will Acton was the same. He won a cup here, but he was far from being part of the OBC.
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| oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 04 August 2022 14:36 |
| nullterm wrote on Thu, 04 August 2022 15:59 |
It's pretty surreal knowing we're finally in an era where we've completely bounced the 80s alumni nepotism.
Dave Manson had 2.5 seasons with us on non Cup 90s teams, and came in as part of Woodcroft's staff... so I'm giving him a pass.
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Yeah, I see Manson as more of a "hey, that's cool that he played for the Oilers and happens to work here now" as opposed to "hey, he played here so now he works here in management" kind of thing.
Will Acton was the same. He won a cup here, but he was far from being part of the OBC.
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Think you mean Keith Acton.
Will Acton was the son who played here during the decade of darkness under Eakins while Keith was an assistant.
Will's presence here probably was somewhat due to nepotism.
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Kr55
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Dang, Adam's sig getting low on names:
Done:
#FireLowe
#FireChiarelli
#FireTippett
Pending:
#FireBobbyNicks
#FireKeithGretzky
#FireKenHolland
Bobby may be done soon. Keith is AHL now. Holland will be done for sure in 2 seasons.
Time for a name reload Adam? :) Proactively add Brad?
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Adam
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| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 04 August 2022 14:49 |
Dang, Adam's sig getting low on names:
Done:
#FireLowe
#FireChiarelli
#FireTippett
Pending:
#FireBobbyNicks
#FireKeithGretzky
#FireKenHolland
Bobby may be done soon. Keith is AHL now. Holland will be done for sure in 2 seasons.
Time for a name reload Adam? :) Proactively add Brad?
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Maybe when that list is finished, a new day will dawn and optimism will once again reign supreme here at Oilfans. The end of the Kevin Lowe Era is certainly a great first step.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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Kr55
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With the most important cog inducted, we can finally get serious now about honoring Oilers HHoF inductees
Tom Gazzola @TomGazzola
Edmonton Oilers Hall of Fame - names of inductees will be displayed on the ring above the Loge Level inside Rogers Place. Nice way to kick off the club’s 50th year. 👍
[Updated on: Wed, 07 September 2022 09:13]
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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