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Kr55 Messages: 10542
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 26 July 2022 13:36 |
Kr55 wrote on Tue, 26 July 2022 13:32 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 26 July 2022 13:25 |
Kr55 wrote on Tue, 26 July 2022 13:20 |
CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 26 July 2022 13:07 |
kungpaobenji27 wrote on Tue, 26 July 2022 13:05 | Foegele has to be on the way out...or buried in the minors right now....right?
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They could buyout Barrie!
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Barrie is the only guy we could trade now to free up space. Seems like we've been shopping Foegele all summer and no takers because he's so overpriced. But we just love Barrie too much to bring ourselves to move him, so we will buy him out next summer after he plays on the 3rd line all year and loses his PP spot.
The Oilers way.
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If you trade Barrie, you need a dman to take his spot. Who's doing that? Taking into account this isn't a developing team, it's a team looking to challenge for a cup so plugging in a rookie from Bakersfield I don't think is a good idea.
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Who is taking the spot of a guy that performs like an average 3rd pair D if he doesn't get spoonfed McDavid ice time and PP time? Not sure, but I think you can fill that spot far cheaper than 4.5M.
Keeping Barrie this year just means we are trying to unload him next summer after he underperforms his cap hit by a significant margin just like Foegele right now. Trade Barrie now, replace him for 1-2M and have 2.5M more to play with this season. Obviously you try to unload Foegele too, and I wouldn't worry about how hard it would be to replace him either.
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Sounds great, who you getting for 1-2 mill that is a better and cheaper defender than Barrie? I've seen and heard lots of stats people say that Barrie's D numbers were decent the last half of the season and the playoffs.
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I admittedly am not an expert on all the 3rd pair D available throughout the league, but am going to take a leap that there are many many ways to get one if needed if you have ~2M of cap space to spare.
Barrie without McDavid in the playoffs was 22% GF (2 for, 7 against). Some bad luck involved, but I don't think he was bringing anything that special to the table, aside from that goal in the Kings series :)
Would love to keep everyone, but, to me, Barrie is the most obvious move still. A team desperate for a RHD that can play the PP has to be out there. We were that team for over a decade and suddenly we have 2 guys like that. Not moving Barrie now I think will result in not that much benefit in the season if he loses that PP spot, you'll be paying a guy probably double what he is providing, and then we are trying to Foegele him next summer. Sometimes it just makes sense to be proactive about this stuff, which the Oilers almost never are.
Personally I would pay a team sweetener to take Foegele and I would move Barrie. Foegele's performance very replaceable probably for 1.5M max. Barrie's future as a 3rd pair D for ~2M. The PP actually scored as a higher rate with Nurse than Barrie the last couple years, so you don't even need Barrie as the 2nd PP guy that badly. Bouch has more potential to add a new element to the PP than Barrie at this point. Bouch has the shot. Barrie is mainly just a guy that needs to pass quickly and not give the puck away like 1 armed Klef was.
[Updated on: Tue, 26 July 2022 13:49]
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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