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| Adam wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:07 |
| oilfan94 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:00 |
Maybe Holland thinks that Kulak will re-sign here for a decent rate since he is from Edmonton and only 28? That is probably how the Montreal GM pitched it to him anyway.
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Haha - the hometown premium! He's an Edmonton boy! He grew up wanting to be an Oiler! You should throw in a few more assets!
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So Oilers deal Lagesson’s $725,000 in Kulak trade so adding $1.1 mil on cap but second rounder is pretty steep for Kulak isn’t it?
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You know it's bad when even Matty knows that this is an overpay.
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| oilfan94 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:00 |
Maybe Holland thinks that Kulak will re-sign here for a decent rate since he is from Edmonton and only 28? That is probably how the Montreal GM pitched it to him anyway.
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So really the deal is Kulak AND Kulak for Laggy and a 2nd
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| CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:21 |
| oilfan94 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:00 |
Maybe Holland thinks that Kulak will re-sign here for a decent rate since he is from Edmonton and only 28? That is probably how the Montreal GM pitched it to him anyway.
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So really the deal is Kulak AND Kulak for Laggy and a 2nd
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Actually, it's more like Kane and Kulak and possibly a Kulak extension for a 2nd and Lagesson.
And Lagesson is almost as good as them taking back salary, right? Right?!?!
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| Adam wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:27 |
| CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:21 |
| oilfan94 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:00 |
Maybe Holland thinks that Kulak will re-sign here for a decent rate since he is from Edmonton and only 28? That is probably how the Montreal GM pitched it to him anyway.
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So really the deal is Kulak AND Kulak for Laggy and a 2nd
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Actually, it's more like Kane and Kulak and possibly a Kulak extension for a 2nd and Lagesson.
And Lagesson is almost as good as them taking back salary, right? Right?!?!
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And Nuge, don’t forget him. He returns from injury soon and is essentially included in this.
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| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 11:29 |
| Adam wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:27 |
| CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:21 |
| oilfan94 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:00 |
Maybe Holland thinks that Kulak will re-sign here for a decent rate since he is from Edmonton and only 28? That is probably how the Montreal GM pitched it to him anyway.
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So really the deal is Kulak AND Kulak for Laggy and a 2nd
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Actually, it's more like Kane and Kulak and possibly a Kulak extension for a 2nd and Lagesson.
And Lagesson is almost as good as them taking back salary, right? Right?!?!
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And Nuge, don’t forget him. He returns from injury soon and is essentially included in this.
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That’s right.
Also need to include Jay Woodcroft in this deal. It’s a real steal if you think about it.
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| smyth260 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:33 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 11:29 |
| Adam wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:27 |
| CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:21 |
| oilfan94 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:00 |
Maybe Holland thinks that Kulak will re-sign here for a decent rate since he is from Edmonton and only 28? That is probably how the Montreal GM pitched it to him anyway.
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So really the deal is Kulak AND Kulak for Laggy and a 2nd
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Actually, it's more like Kane and Kulak and possibly a Kulak extension for a 2nd and Lagesson.
And Lagesson is almost as good as them taking back salary, right? Right?!?!
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And Nuge, don’t forget him. He returns from injury soon and is essentially included in this.
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That’s right.
Also need to include Jay Woodcroft in this deal. It’s a real steal if you think about it.
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It’s a wonder why Montreal accepted the 2nd next year, should have been the first. Great work Old Dutch! Katz needs to get his extension done yesterday.
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| smyth260 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:33 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 11:29 |
| Adam wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:27 |
| CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:21 |
| oilfan94 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:00 |
Maybe Holland thinks that Kulak will re-sign here for a decent rate since he is from Edmonton and only 28? That is probably how the Montreal GM pitched it to him anyway.
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So really the deal is Kulak AND Kulak for Laggy and a 2nd
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Actually, it's more like Kane and Kulak and possibly a Kulak extension for a 2nd and Lagesson.
And Lagesson is almost as good as them taking back salary, right? Right?!?!
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And Nuge, don’t forget him. He returns from injury soon and is essentially included in this.
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That’s right.
Also need to include Jay Woodcroft in this deal. It’s a real steal if you think about it.
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| Red Rage wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 11:36 |
Re Woodcroft, don't we have to send Bakersfield a draft pick or something??
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| Red Rage wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 11:36 |
| smyth260 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:33 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 11:29 |
| Adam wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:27 |
| CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:21 |
| oilfan94 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:00 |
Maybe Holland thinks that Kulak will re-sign here for a decent rate since he is from Edmonton and only 28? That is probably how the Montreal GM pitched it to him anyway.
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So really the deal is Kulak AND Kulak for Laggy and a 2nd
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Actually, it's more like Kane and Kulak and possibly a Kulak extension for a 2nd and Lagesson.
And Lagesson is almost as good as them taking back salary, right? Right?!?!
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And Nuge, don’t forget him. He returns from injury soon and is essentially included in this.
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That’s right.
Also need to include Jay Woodcroft in this deal. It’s a real steal if you think about it.
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Re Woodcroft, don't we have to send Bakersfield a draft pick or something??
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Yes, a conditional 4th round pick that becomes a 3rd if one playoff round is won, or a 2nd if Woodcroft does 10 playoff press conferences in power stance.
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What they really needed was a RHD and they could have had J. Braun for a 3rd.
Instead they focus on a LHD for a 2nd + Lagesson. Lagesson can actually play minutes.. he doesn't have zero worth.. except to the Oilers apparently.
This management team is useless.
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| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 10:32 |
Home town boy, Brett Kulak acquired by Oilers.
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Laggy and a 2nd for a depth D that we get because we are worried Keith will keep breaking down
So fun
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This! Ugh as usual sat o his hands while other gms ran laps around him
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:04 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 10:32 |
Home town boy, Brett Kulak acquired by Oilers.
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All the stats guys saying Kulak is a top 4 guy so I don't think he will be in the pressbox.
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What a bunch of goofs. How does Kulak cost a 2nd, let alone adding Lagesson? Brutal.
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:04 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 10:32 |
Home town boy, Brett Kulak acquired by Oilers.
UFA end of season and return TBD
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What, did you want us to get him for free???
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| Adam wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:09 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:04 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 10:32 |
Home town boy, Brett Kulak acquired by Oilers.
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So fun
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What, did you want us to get him for free???
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I expect the brotherhood of GMs will have a word with the Montreal guy about leaning on other teams like this
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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Pissing away future assets for 6 weeks of a guy that doesn't move the needle.
I guess you all got what you wanted. Window is now. Screw the future.
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Fireable deadline for Holland. Worst GM in league. Im out of his corner now. Jesus
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Montreal retains 50% of Lehkonen for the Avs throwing in the 24’ 2nd
But Holland couldn’t get retention with the 23’ 2nd for Kulak. Or 22’ 2/3 for Keith.
Brutal.
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| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:14 |
Montreal retains 50% of Lehkonen for the Avs throwing in the 24’ 2nd
But Holland couldn’t get retention with the 23’ 2nd for Kulak. Or 22’ 2/3 for Keith.
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People are saying Barron was ranked as the Avs #1 prospect so the Habs may have got a good piece.
I would feel better about losing a second which in reality is maybe 4-5 yrs away from making the team. McLeod is in year 4 post draft, if they brought Kulak back at a reasonable number.
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| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 11:14 |
Montreal retains 50% of Lehkonen for the Avs throwing in the 24’ 2nd
But Holland couldn’t get retention with the 23’ 2nd for Kulak. Or 22’ 2/3 for Keith.
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That guy should never make a trade again.. he has a league rep as sucker.. you can see it in every trade result.. can't get rid of a rep like that.
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SN saying the 2nd is conditional.
So would hope that its conditional on player min/game &/or rounds in playoffs.
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Yep depending 9n what one Chicago gets
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| K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:41 |
SN saying the 2nd is conditional.
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This years 2nd if it's available, otherwise next years.
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| NetBOG wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:42 |
| K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:41 |
SN saying the 2nd is conditional.
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Yeah - I believe this is correct. Heard it a couple of times. Given everything else we gave up, I don't know why we'd agree to this. Means we potentially (likely given the conditions on the Keith deal) won't have a pick between the 1st and 5th round. Unless we do some other inane trade that day, I guess.
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| Adam wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:02 |
| NetBOG wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:42 |
| K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:41 |
SN saying the 2nd is conditional.
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Yeah - I believe this is correct. Heard it a couple of times. Given everything else we gave up, I don't know why we'd agree to this. Means we potentially (likely given the conditions on the Keith deal) won't have a pick between the 1st and 5th round. Unless we do some other inane trade that day, I guess.
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Like trading down three times and getting 9 4th rounders?
In a vacuum, I don't mind this trade. The Oilers have the two best players in the world and should coast into the playoffs. They defense needs improvement and draft picks are entirely useless to them in the McDavid window, which threatens to close before it opens. Lagesson is.. whatever.
This isn't in a vacuum.
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| K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:41 |
SN saying the 2nd is conditional.
So would hope that its conditional on player min/game &/or rounds in playoffs.
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Turns into a 1st if we make it to the conference finals and Kulak plays 10 games? 
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Sportsnet saying the 2nd rounder to Montreal is conditional.. ?
Now I'm worried it could be a 1st if they sign him.. or make it to through 2nd round.. or.. ?
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 12:42 |
Sportsnet saying the 2nd rounder to Montreal is conditional.. ?
Now I'm worried it could be a 1st if they sign him.. or make it to through 2nd round.. or.. ?
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It'd be a conditional 1st then, no? I'm good with a 2nd if they appear in the 3rd round, honestly.
Kulak is arguably 2LD on this roster. Hope it goes well.
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Strange the deal STILL haven't been announced by either the Oilers or Habs. It was broken a couple of hours ago.
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Mtl retains half way to be Kenny lol
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I understand to a degree why it was a second if they ate 50%. You have to pay for salary retention.
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Mtl retains half way to be Kenny lol
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This makes the 2nd a bit more palatable
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Yep somehow managed to get retention in both deals today. Apparently 33 more deals awaiting trade call
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| sinfulchimp306 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:45 |
Yep somehow managed to get retention in both deals today. Apparently 33 more deals awaiting trade call
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Did we need the retention? He is a 1.85M cap hit. 1.7M of LTIR space going into the deadline and we shed Lagesons 750k.
Nice of montreal, but hope we didn't pay much for retention we didn't really need, unless there is something else coming.
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Yeah the retention is kinda pointless when you think about it! Wonder if there was something more that was close?
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:47 |
| sinfulchimp306 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:45 |
Yep somehow managed to get retention in both deals today. Apparently 33 more deals awaiting trade call
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Did we need the retention? He is a 1.85M cap hit. 1.7M of LTIR space going into the deadline and we shed Lagesons 750k.
Nice of montreal, but hope we didn't pay much for retention we didn't really need, unless there is something else coming.
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When the trade was first announced, all the twitter bloggers where saying how great of an add it was. He can play 2nd pairing, showed all his stats, etc, etc. Then it was a bad trade as soon as it was announced it was a second considering Braun with zero retention got a 3rd and they felt a 3rd was fair. They paid a round earlier to get retention.
Toronto paid and extra second to get Seattle to retain.
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:51 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:47 |
| sinfulchimp306 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:45 |
Yep somehow managed to get retention in both deals today. Apparently 33 more deals awaiting trade call
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Did we need the retention? He is a 1.85M cap hit. 1.7M of LTIR space going into the deadline and we shed Lagesons 750k.
Nice of montreal, but hope we didn't pay much for retention we didn't really need, unless there is something else coming.
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When the trade was first announced, all the twitter bloggers where saying how great of an add it was. He can play 2nd pairing, showed all his stats, etc, etc. Then it was a bad trade as soon as it was announced it was a second considering Braun with zero retention got a 3rd and they felt a 3rd was fair. They paid a round earlier to get retention.
Toronto paid and extra second to get Seattle to retain.
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If Muzzin is back the leafs need to chop their roster down a bit to make the room. Need to remove 1.9M of cap. Likely why they needed the retention on Gio. Freeing up 5.3M of cap space for Muzzin would have been impossible.
Not sure what we would be afraid of coming onto our books with the deadline over. Already set to demote Turris to the AHL if he's back early. I guess we saved Katz a bit of cash.
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:52 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:51 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:47 |
| sinfulchimp306 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:45 |
Yep somehow managed to get retention in both deals today. Apparently 33 more deals awaiting trade call
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Did we need the retention? He is a 1.85M cap hit. 1.7M of LTIR space going into the deadline and we shed Lagesons 750k.
Nice of montreal, but hope we didn't pay much for retention we didn't really need, unless there is something else coming.
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When the trade was first announced, all the twitter bloggers where saying how great of an add it was. He can play 2nd pairing, showed all his stats, etc, etc. Then it was a bad trade as soon as it was announced it was a second considering Braun with zero retention got a 3rd and they felt a 3rd was fair. They paid a round earlier to get retention.
Toronto paid and extra second to get Seattle to retain.
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If Muzzin is back the leafs need to chop their roster down a bit to make the room. Need to remove 1.9M of cap. Likely why they needed the retention on Gio.
Not sure what we would be afraid of coming onto our books with the deadline over. Already set to demote Turris to the AHL if he's back early. I guess we saved Katz a bit of cash.
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I think it would have been hard to afford both guys given Holland's atrocious ability to manage cap without getting some retention.
Of course, the amount you should pay for retention at this point is debatable, because the amount in actual dollars is low, and the cap hit is meaningless for Montreal and Philly on an expiring deal. Honestly, should just have your owner send a cheque to the other guy for the funds and leave it at that.
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:52 |
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:47 |
| sinfulchimp306 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:45 |
Yep somehow managed to get retention in both deals today. Apparently 33 more deals awaiting trade call
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Did we need the retention? He is a 1.85M cap hit. 1.7M of LTIR space going into the deadline and we shed Lagesons 750k.
Nice of montreal, but hope we didn't pay much for retention we didn't really need, unless there is something else coming.
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When the trade was first announced, all the twitter bloggers where saying how great of an add it was. He can play 2nd pairing, showed all his stats, etc, etc. Then it was a bad trade as soon as it was announced it was a second considering Braun with zero retention got a 3rd and they felt a 3rd was fair. They paid a round earlier to get retention.
Toronto paid and extra second to get Seattle to retain.
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If Muzzin is back the leafs need to chop their roster down a bit to make the room. Need to remove 1.9M of cap. Likely why they needed the retention on Gio.
Not sure what we would be afraid of coming onto our books with the deadline over. Already set to demote Turris to the AHL if he's back early. I guess we saved Katz a bit of cash.
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I think it would have been hard to afford both guys given Holland's atrocious ability to manage cap without getting some retention.
Of course, the amount you should pay for retention at this point is debatable, because the amount in actual dollars is low, and the cap hit is meaningless for Montreal and Philly on an expiring deal. Honestly, should just have your owner send a cheque to the other guy for the funds and leave it at that.
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Think Kulak/Laggy swap adds 1.1M. Brassard would displace another AHL demotable dude so that's a wash. Think we still end up with 0.6M of space no? And if Turris comes back we would lose 525k of that if we have to dump him in the AHL. And then we're just in Klef's LTIR space.
Maybe I'm missing something, like if we wanted to carry an extra roster player. Archibald coming back is a real pain, along with our generally terrible cap management.
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 14:01 |
| Adam wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:59 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:52 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:51 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:47 |
| sinfulchimp306 wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:45 |
Yep somehow managed to get retention in both deals today. Apparently 33 more deals awaiting trade call
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Did we need the retention? He is a 1.85M cap hit. 1.7M of LTIR space going into the deadline and we shed Lagesons 750k.
Nice of montreal, but hope we didn't pay much for retention we didn't really need, unless there is something else coming.
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When the trade was first announced, all the twitter bloggers where saying how great of an add it was. He can play 2nd pairing, showed all his stats, etc, etc. Then it was a bad trade as soon as it was announced it was a second considering Braun with zero retention got a 3rd and they felt a 3rd was fair. They paid a round earlier to get retention.
Toronto paid and extra second to get Seattle to retain.
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If Muzzin is back the leafs need to chop their roster down a bit to make the room. Need to remove 1.9M of cap. Likely why they needed the retention on Gio.
Not sure what we would be afraid of coming onto our books with the deadline over. Already set to demote Turris to the AHL if he's back early. I guess we saved Katz a bit of cash.
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I think it would have been hard to afford both guys given Holland's atrocious ability to manage cap without getting some retention.
Of course, the amount you should pay for retention at this point is debatable, because the amount in actual dollars is low, and the cap hit is meaningless for Montreal and Philly on an expiring deal. Honestly, should just have your owner send a cheque to the other guy for the funds and leave it at that.
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Think Kulak/Laggy swap adds 1.1M. Brassard would displace another AHL demotable dude so that's a wash. Think we still end up with 0.6M of space no? And if Turris comes back we would lose 525k of that if we have to dump him in the AHL. And then we're just in Klef's LTIR space.
Maybe I'm missing something, like if we wanted to carry an extra roster player. Archibald coming back is a real pain, along with our generally terrible cap management.
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I think the Oilers cap situation looks better than it should because they don't have a full roster available.
If Kulak's only at 50% plus Lagesson gone, there's virtually no cap change to that.
I agree that the Turris thing is idiotic. Also, not sure why we'd hang on to Archibald to play 6-7 minutes a night in every other game, but maybe no one was interested.
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