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CrusaderPi
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Welcome everyone to Kevin Lowe retirement night against the Rangers.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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inverno76
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 08:40 |
Welcome everyone to Kevin Lowe retirement night against the Rangers.
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If only he was retiring from all things hockey. That is reason to celebrate.
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NCREDiBLE
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Registered: February 2007
Location: Cold Lake, AB
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| inverno76 wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 10:01 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 08:40 |
Welcome everyone to Kevin Lowe retirement night against the Rangers.
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If only he was retiring from all things hockey. That is reason to celebrate.
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Let's at least let him have his night, despite some frustrating years for many of us.... The guy deserves this for all he has done. He truly has always been an Oiler through and through.
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CrudeRemarks
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Location: Edmonton
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| NCREDiBLE wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 11:10 |
| inverno76 wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 10:01 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 08:40 |
Welcome everyone to Kevin Lowe retirement night against the Rangers.
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If only he was retiring from all things hockey. That is reason to celebrate.
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Let's at least let him have his night, despite some frustrating years for many of us.... The guy deserves this for all he has done. He truly has always been an Oiler through and through.
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He did far more damage than he ever helped the team. I don't believe for a single second that the 80's Oilers minus Kevin Lower would have been any less successful.
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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CrusaderPi
Messages: 7803
Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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| NCREDiBLE wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 11:10 |
| inverno76 wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 10:01 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 08:40 |
Welcome everyone to Kevin Lowe retirement night against the Rangers.
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If only he was retiring from all things hockey. That is reason to celebrate.
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Let's at least let him have his night, despite some frustrating years for many of us.... The guy deserves this for all he has done. He truly has always been an Oiler through and through.
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I'm not sure he's been an Oilers through and through. Of course, I'm a former tier one fan that still holds some bitterness over the last 21 years of hockey in this town.
I think we can compare and contrast this retirement ceremony to the others we've seen over the last 20ish years. I was excited and felt lucky to be in the building for Coffey and Anderson. I was pissy when a shadow was cast across Messier for some reason. I made a point of watching Gretzky, Kurri, and Fuhr go in the rafters. This one? I'm not really interested. If I didn't have to work late tonight, I'd go to the Riders game instead of watching this. I certainly won't be tuning in early tonight to relive the nostalgia and listen to better players try to convince me how important this is. I will do my utmost to avoid the intermission chatter even though I'll probably be watching on MSG to avoid the fawning.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Adam
Messages: 7174
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 12:31 |
| NCREDiBLE wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 11:10 |
| inverno76 wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 10:01 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 08:40 |
Welcome everyone to Kevin Lowe retirement night against the Rangers.
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If only he was retiring from all things hockey. That is reason to celebrate.
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Let's at least let him have his night, despite some frustrating years for many of us.... The guy deserves this for all he has done. He truly has always been an Oiler through and through.
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I'm not sure he's been an Oilers through and through. Of course, I'm a former tier one fan that still holds some bitterness over the last 21 years of hockey in this town.
I think we can compare and contrast this retirement ceremony to the others we've seen over the last 20ish years. I was excited and felt lucky to be in the building for Coffey and Anderson. I was pissy when a shadow was cast across Messier for some reason. I made a point of watching Gretzky, Kurri, and Fuhr go in the rafters. This one? I'm not really interested. If I didn't have to work late tonight, I'd go to the Riders game instead of watching this. I certainly won't be tuning in early tonight to relive the nostalgia and listen to better players try to convince me how important this is. I will do my utmost to avoid the intermission chatter even though I'll probably be watching on MSG to avoid the fawning.
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I tried hard (and succeeded) to get tickets to Gretzky, Kurri, Coffey, Anderson and Messier's nights. I had to work so missed the opportunity to see Fuhr's. I had the Sather tickets fall in my lap too and really appreciated all those - although the Messier one was a weird night with the Smyth deal, and the sour mood in the building, followed by the total no-show by the team in that game. I do remember Lowe substituting himself out of that ceremony.
I think it is a bit foolish of the team to do this while he's still a part of team management. It increases the chance he hears some boos tonight. I won't do that, despite some of my hard feelings, but I'm not sure there aren't going to be some. That'll be hard for him to hear if they happen.
I even believe there's potentially good reason to include Lowe in the group in the rafters - first draft pick, first goal, big part of 5 Cups, Assistant Captain for 4 of them, Captain of the team before he left, most games in franchise history. But it's hard to separate his management tenure with his playing days while he's still going to work in the Oilers office and part of a management team that still is helping to handicap our chances of winning.
Also I still am curious why Lowe is always esteemed so much higher than Charlie Huddy. As I recall, that was the case even in the 80s (although I was relatively young during the heyday so could be mistaken). Maybe he was seen as the anchor on the second pair, while Coffey was on the first? Huddy's numbers might have been seen to be in part because of him playing so much with Coffey and by extension Gretzky?
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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CrudeRemarks
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Registered: November 2010
Location: Edmonton
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| Adam wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 12:47 |
first goal
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*assist on first goal
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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bigEfromGP
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Registered: July 2006
Location: GP, AB
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| CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 13:22 |
| Adam wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 12:47 |
first goal
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*assist on first goal
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Does anyone have a better version than the lousy clip on YouTube of this? I've watched it dozens of times this week, and at best I say it's inconclusive. And I really don't like Lowe.
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| CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:00 |
The president thinks he has the ideal male body.
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It's hard to disagree that he has the ideal male body.
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CrusaderPi
Messages: 7803
Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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| bigEfromGP wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 13:46 |
| CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 13:22 |
| Adam wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 12:47 |
first goal
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*assist on first goal
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Does anyone have a better version than the lousy clip on YouTube of this? I've watched it dozens of times this week, and at best I say it's inconclusive. And I really don't like Lowe.
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I don't believe another clip exists... the late 70s wasn't great for archiving random sport events.
Frankly I prefer it that way, Crude's Lowe truthering has brought constant joy to this forum.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Adam
Messages: 7174
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| bigEfromGP wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 13:46 |
| CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 13:22 |
| Adam wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 12:47 |
first goal
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*assist on first goal
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Does anyone have a better version than the lousy clip on YouTube of this? I've watched it dozens of times this week, and at best I say it's inconclusive. And I really don't like Lowe.
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Worth noting, despite CrudeRemarks campaign, there isn't actually any debate on the first goal for the Oilers. Gretzky made a joke about it the night it happened...that's about it.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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CrudeRemarks
Messages: 1703
Registered: November 2010
Location: Edmonton
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| Adam wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 15:22 |
| bigEfromGP wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 13:46 |
| CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 13:22 |
| Adam wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 12:47 |
first goal
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*assist on first goal
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Does anyone have a better version than the lousy clip on YouTube of this? I've watched it dozens of times this week, and at best I say it's inconclusive. And I really don't like Lowe.
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Worth noting, despite CrudeRemarks campaign, there isn't actually any debate on the first goal for the Oilers. Gretzky made a joke about it the night it happened...that's about it.
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Hard disagree. It's a massive unknown and it's wrong of Kevin to continue claiming a goal that isn't his.
What's more likely, the guy that scored over 10 goals one time scoring, or the guy that got 92?
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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inverno76
Messages: 2340
Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
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| Adam wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 12:47 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 12:31 |
| NCREDiBLE wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 11:10 |
| inverno76 wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 10:01 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 08:40 |
Welcome everyone to Kevin Lowe retirement night against the Rangers.
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If only he was retiring from all things hockey. That is reason to celebrate.
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Let's at least let him have his night, despite some frustrating years for many of us.... The guy deserves this for all he has done. He truly has always been an Oiler through and through.
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I'm not sure he's been an Oilers through and through. Of course, I'm a former tier one fan that still holds some bitterness over the last 21 years of hockey in this town.
I think we can compare and contrast this retirement ceremony to the others we've seen over the last 20ish years. I was excited and felt lucky to be in the building for Coffey and Anderson. I was pissy when a shadow was cast across Messier for some reason. I made a point of watching Gretzky, Kurri, and Fuhr go in the rafters. This one? I'm not really interested. If I didn't have to work late tonight, I'd go to the Riders game instead of watching this. I certainly won't be tuning in early tonight to relive the nostalgia and listen to better players try to convince me how important this is. I will do my utmost to avoid the intermission chatter even though I'll probably be watching on MSG to avoid the fawning.
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I tried hard (and succeeded) to get tickets to Gretzky, Kurri, Coffey, Anderson and Messier's nights. I had to work so missed the opportunity to see Fuhr's. I had the Sather tickets fall in my lap too and really appreciated all those - although the Messier one was a weird night with the Smyth deal, and the sour mood in the building, followed by the total no-show by the team in that game. I do remember Lowe substituting himself out of that ceremony.
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Like you, I’ve been to the same retirement nights and even though I understand why Lowe did not show up for Messier’s night, he mismanaged that TDD so badly that I could never forgive him. I think we lost 3-0 that night and the mood at Rexall was a mix of somber and anger.
I had an opportunity for free tickets tonight too, but I don’t think I’m going to even tune in. I’m undecided. I’m definitely not watching his hilight package or the ceremony.
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CrudeRemarks
Messages: 1703
Registered: November 2010
Location: Edmonton
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| inverno76 wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 16:00 |
| Adam wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 12:47 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 12:31 |
| NCREDiBLE wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 11:10 |
| inverno76 wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 10:01 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 08:40 |
Welcome everyone to Kevin Lowe retirement night against the Rangers.
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If only he was retiring from all things hockey. That is reason to celebrate.
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Let's at least let him have his night, despite some frustrating years for many of us.... The guy deserves this for all he has done. He truly has always been an Oiler through and through.
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I'm not sure he's been an Oilers through and through. Of course, I'm a former tier one fan that still holds some bitterness over the last 21 years of hockey in this town.
I think we can compare and contrast this retirement ceremony to the others we've seen over the last 20ish years. I was excited and felt lucky to be in the building for Coffey and Anderson. I was pissy when a shadow was cast across Messier for some reason. I made a point of watching Gretzky, Kurri, and Fuhr go in the rafters. This one? I'm not really interested. If I didn't have to work late tonight, I'd go to the Riders game instead of watching this. I certainly won't be tuning in early tonight to relive the nostalgia and listen to better players try to convince me how important this is. I will do my utmost to avoid the intermission chatter even though I'll probably be watching on MSG to avoid the fawning.
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I tried hard (and succeeded) to get tickets to Gretzky, Kurri, Coffey, Anderson and Messier's nights. I had to work so missed the opportunity to see Fuhr's. I had the Sather tickets fall in my lap too and really appreciated all those - although the Messier one was a weird night with the Smyth deal, and the sour mood in the building, followed by the total no-show by the team in that game. I do remember Lowe substituting himself out of that ceremony.
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Like you, I’ve been to the same retirement nights and even though I understand why Lowe did not show up for Messier’s night, he mismanaged that TDD so badly that I could never forgive him. I think we lost 3-0 that night and the mood at Rexall was a mix of somber and anger.
I had an opportunity for free tickets tonight too, but I don’t think I’m going to even tune in. I’m undecided. I’m definitely not watching his hilight package or the ceremony.
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Highlight package can’t be more than a minute or so. I hope they include a shot of him getting absolutely turnstiled by Pat LaFontaine in ‘84 for two goals in 35 seconds
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4418
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| NCREDiBLE wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 10:10 |
Let's at least let him have his night, despite some frustrating years for many of us.... The guy deserves this for all he has done. He truly has always been an Oiler through and through.
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Agree.
In addition, the amount charity/community work he's done in Edmonton from his time as a player until today has to be a part of the story.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Adam
Messages: 7174
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Location: Edmonton, AB
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 08:40 |
Welcome everyone to Kevin Lowe retirement night against the Rangers.
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I want Lowe to come out to "Introducing someone who knows a little about winning, if that were ever a concern..."
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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NCREDiBLE
Messages: 258
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Location: Cold Lake, AB
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| Adam wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 11:41 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 08:40 |
Welcome everyone to Kevin Lowe retirement night against the Rangers.
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I want Lowe to come out to "Introducing someone who knows a little about winning, if that were ever a concern..."
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 That would be GOLD
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K.McC#24
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Location: ALBERTA
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I'm probably not going to tune in early for this ceremony. I just hope the Oilers come out with a good effort, if they get that, they're going to win.
Lowe got into the hof on the merits of longevity, not only as a player but as a coach and an executive, and of course 6 championships with 2 teams. He was probably only behind Gretzky and maybe Messier in terms of hating to lose. Probably a better player and more important to the Oilers than Al Hamilton and Garth Brooks in terms of those in the rafters.
Waste of my damned time to be angry with Kevin Lowe still, Im mostly indifferent. Chiarelli holds more relevance for recent history, and eventually he'll be a footnote in my books as well.
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NetBOG
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Registered: January 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
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Last Oilers-NYR game was a bit bonkers.
Played mere hours before the dawn of a new decade, The Real Buyout had a hat-trick and 4 points, Nuge had 4 points, Oilers went up 6-0 before giving up 5 straight in the 3rd. Yamo ices it with an EN goal.
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smyth260
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Registered: November 2007
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Boycott or hate-watch?
Clean house or bust
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NetBOG
Messages: 2948
Registered: January 2006
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Holy Geez, Sportsnet has an hour and five minutes booked for the retirement ceremony.
For KEVIN LOWE.
Oilers need an editor to cut this to a concise 8 and a half minutes maximum.
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NCREDiBLE
Messages: 258
Registered: February 2007
Location: Cold Lake, AB
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| NetBOG wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 13:33 |
Holy Geez, Sportsnet has an hour and five minutes booked for the retirement ceremony.
For KEVIN LOWE.
Oilers need an editor to cut this to a concise 8 and a half minutes maximum.
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Good Grief, no thanks.
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MJ
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| NetBOG wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 12:33 |
Holy Geez, Sportsnet has an hour and five minutes booked for the retirement ceremony.
For KEVIN LOWE.
Oilers need an editor to cut this to a concise 8 and a half minutes maximum.
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I will not watch an hour long love fest for Lowe. Glad I know when to tune in tonight!
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4418
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Location: Burnaby, BC
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| MJ wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 16:17 |
I will not watch an hour long love fest for Lowe. Glad I know when to tune in tonight!
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I'll tune in just to see the former Oilers.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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CrudeRemarks
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Hopefully the banner raising has some sort of technical issue but it continues to go up into the rafters, failing upwards just as Lowe has done for all these years.
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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Dragon_Matt
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I'd be ok if it was caught and slowly torn as it was pulled up
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K.McC#24
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| Dragon_Matt wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 15:16 |
I'd be ok if it was caught and slowly torn as it was pulled up
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Yeah, that'd be hilarious, actually.
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Oscargasm
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Must hear La Bamba.
Survivor CHAMP S52 | S66
OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
Category 1 - Lightly Musty
Category 2 - Moderately Musty
Category 3 - Considerably Musty
Category 4 - Severely Musty
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g2k
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I won’t watch in fear of possibly seeing Nicholson's dumb mug. Those wounds still feel wide open.
I don’t think it would have bothered me too much if I watched it tonight. I just don’t want to watch him or Nicholson slipping around on the ice with the Cup one of these springs. If Kevin didn’t go on the ice for the Cup, I would have a new found respect for him that would know no bounds. But he will be there. And I will be muting it and turning my head until the wife says it’s safe. Bobby too.
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Dragon_Matt
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"And here to present Kevin with his miniature banner for his home, all the Oilers to wear #4 who were better than him"
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NetBOG
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Holy geez, MacT gets 6 minutes? How long are all the good players gonna get?
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g2k
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I can’t lie. I ended up watching. TV was on in the garage when I went in there and seen Simpson talking and took it in.
It was a good presentation. I’m happy he wasn’t booed.
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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Oscargasm
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| g2k wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 18:54 |
I can’t lie. I ended up watching. TV was on in the garage when I went in there and seen Simpson talking and took it in.
It was a good presentation. I’m happy he wasn’t booed.
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Im a sucker for this kinda stuff. Love seeing former players and hearing/seeing all the stories. I have it pvr’d and will def watch it before turning the game on (also PVR’d, dang kids and their bedtimes haha)
Survivor CHAMP S52 | S66
OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
Category 1 - Lightly Musty
Category 2 - Moderately Musty
Category 3 - Considerably Musty
Category 4 - Severely Musty
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CrudeRemarks
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| Oscargasm wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 18:59 |
| g2k wrote on Fri, 05 November 2021 18:54 |
I can’t lie. I ended up watching. TV was on in the garage when I went in there and seen Simpson talking and took it in.
It was a good presentation. I’m happy he wasn’t booed.
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Im a sucker for this kinda stuff. Love seeing former players and hearing/seeing all the stories. I have it pvr’d and will def watch it before turning the game on (also PVR’d, dang kids and their bedtimes haha)
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Wait so you’re telling me that long serving OEG Vice chair and non-hockey executive Kevin Lowe also played for the team?
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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smyth260
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Gretzky couldn’t take a charter to be here for tonight?
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Dragon_Matt
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well you see, there are tier one players and tier two players. Tier one players put up points and bring in fans and make the team money. Gretzky shows up for tier one players.
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